A different opinion on high fiber die...

A different opinion on high fiber diets for diverticulosis

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Since: May 12

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#1 Jun 16, 2012
Hi, As I wrote earlier I have been spending countless hours researching Diverticulitis and how to prevent further attacks. I just came across a website entitled, "Got a gut feeling your gut is out of whack?"

It goes against the traditional advice from doctors that tell us to eat a high fiber diet once the infection has cleared I am posting a link and if anyone is interested in giving their opinion, I would love to hear it.

/www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/ diverticular.html

Thank you, Monica
Georgia

United States

#2 Jun 17, 2012
Hi Monica,
I tried your link and could not get it to work. I copied and pasted and it said "not found."
I saved what I felt was an incredible article on the gut. Mine isn't really on Diverticulitis---just the gut.
This article has lots of links on this page to other articles.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/...
Deb

Olivet, MI

#3 Jun 17, 2012
Here's a clickable link to the web site Monica posted, which is very interesting. I'm going to quit eating those Fiber One bars! They cause pressure at my rectum and have done so off and on since I started eating them after my surgery.

Just needed to delete the space in the URL before "diverticular," Georgia.

http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/diverticu...

Thanks for the link, Monica! I read several of the articles on that site yesterday and found them very interesting. I doubt that I'll order any of his products, but knowing that too much fiber is the cause (or one of the causes, in addition to eating acid-forming foods, of course) of diverticulosis, diverticulitis, and many other bowel diseases makes perfect sense.

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#4 Jun 17, 2012
Georgia wrote:
Hi Monica,
I tried your link and could not get it to work. I copied and pasted and it said "not found."
I saved what I felt was an incredible article on the gut. Mine isn't really on Diverticulitis---just the gut.
This article has lots of links on this page to other articles.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/...
Hi Georgia,

Sorry about my link. It was late at night and I inorrectly typed the incorrect link. The article you posted is fascinating and makes perfect sense. Thank you for sharing it with us. There is still so much to learn about our bodies.

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#5 Jun 17, 2012
Deb wrote:
Here's a clickable link to the web site Monica posted, which is very interesting. I'm going to quit eating those Fiber One bars! They cause pressure at my rectum and have done so off and on since I started eating them after my surgery.
Just needed to delete the space in the URL before "diverticular," Georgia.
http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/diverticu...
Thanks for the link, Monica! I read several of the articles on that site yesterday and found them very interesting. I doubt that I'll order any of his products, but knowing that too much fiber is the cause (or one of the causes, in addition to eating acid-forming foods, of course) of diverticulosis, diverticulitis, and many other bowel diseases makes perfect sense.
Hi Deb,

Thank you so much for giving us the correct link and for reading the article and of course your feedback.

I too have read that acid forming foods are a trigger for stomach ailments. I too will not buy his products but I found his findings to be a lot of common sense. Especially since most of us eat a high fiber diet to prevent the diver attacks and yet we still end up with them.

In January I read an interesting article about a study they conducted with 1000 people that had suffered from diverticulitis attacks. They found that those with a low fiber diet experienced fewer recurrent attacks than those with high fiber diets.

After reading this article I felt a light go off. I had just come home from the hospital from a 3 day stay after having suffered my second attack. Prior to this attack I had been on a high fiber diet . In fact, heavy fiber and not from supplements but from food. It was very discouraging to find myself in this situation again. But I continued to follow the advice of my doctors, continued on a high fiber diet and ended up in the hospital again this past April.

I am now researching as much as possible, looking at alternative advice/research since what they have been telling us does not work for me. I do not have abcesses, perforations, thickening, etc, just uncomplicated attacks.

I have met with a great nurtionist, two gastro docs and have two more appointments with top colon rectal surgeons and one more gastro. I cannot wait to see what they have to say. All my other doctors recommend a colon resection. It is not something I have ruled out, it is something I really do not want.

Again, there is so much more to learn about this disease.

Thank you again.

Monica
Georgia

United States

#6 Jun 17, 2012
Hi Monica,
I can agree with some of the things he says. I do feel it is strange that both of my grandparents had Diverticulitis and I have it. Many times it seems to run in families. I have always eaten the total opposite of the way they ate. My Diverticulitis is just like theirs in the sense they never were really sick from it (Hospitalized)
nor did either one ever need a resection. My grandpa lived to be 97 which was pretty old 40 years ago.
I also tend to be skeptical of anyone that sells products on their website to support what they write. As far as I know everything he says could be right. I just gave my own personal feeling and I have been wrong many times.
Georgia

United States

#7 Jun 17, 2012
Hi Monica,
Sorry, I went back. I missed this the first time, and it does make me really wonder what this guy is about. He wrote this;
"The moment diverticulosis turns into diverticulitis — inflammation of one or more diverticula, and the second phase,— the conventionally-recommended treatment causes even more harm because it is based on a combination of antibiotics and fiber."

NEVER is it a common treatment to tell people that are having a Diverticulitis attack to eat fiber!!!
That is an outright lie. We all use the Mayo Clinic Diet for Diverticulitis and they do NOT recommend fiber.

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#8 Jun 17, 2012
Georgia wrote:
Hi Monica,
I can agree with some of the things he says. I do feel it is strange that both of my grandparents had Diverticulitis and I have it. Many times it seems to run in families. I have always eaten the total opposite of the way they ate. My Diverticulitis is just like theirs in the sense they never were really sick from it (Hospitalized)
nor did either one ever need a resection. My grandpa lived to be 97 which was pretty old 40 years ago.
I also tend to be skeptical of anyone that sells products on their website to support what they write. As far as I know everything he says could be right. I just gave my own personal feeling and I have been wrong many times.
Hi Georgia,

I too have read and heard that diverticulitis runs in families. I have a question about your grandparents, especially your grandfather. Did he eat a special diet and did he have many attacks? If so, what did he do for treatment?

I find this fascinating.

Thank you!

Monica
natalie

Saint-eustache, Canada

#9 Jun 17, 2012
My mom is 88, she had a colonoscopy last year (totally unrelated to div.). They found she had pouches everywhere on her colon. She never had an episode!! Maybe it does run in the family???? She makes absolutely no particular effort to eat fiber or to avoid it. She's ukrainian so eats a lot of perogis and cabbage rolls!!!

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#10 Jun 17, 2012
natalie wrote:
My mom is 88, she had a colonoscopy last year (totally unrelated to div.). They found she had pouches everywhere on her colon. She never had an episode!! Maybe it does run in the family???? She makes absolutely no particular effort to eat fiber or to avoid it. She's ukrainian so eats a lot of perogis and cabbage rolls!!!
She's a lucky one Natalie! I wish I could do the same. I believe I have problems with diverticulitis because for most of my adult life (with normal stress) I have had IBS. Not with constipation but with severe bloating and at times diahreaha. My mom is the same but she does not have diverticulitis. She calls it a nervous stomach. There was even a time in my life that I had "the dump syndrom". I could not have a meal without having to go to the bathroom immediately. It was awful and embarrassing.

Now, it is just about gone. Thank goodness. Now I have to manage this lovely disease. Oh well, it could be much worse.

All the best to you!

Monica
Georgia

United States

#11 Jun 17, 2012
Hi Monica,
I hate to admit to you the diet my grandparents ate were meat and potatoes every night with a canned veggie. For breakfast my grandpa ate oatmeal every morning except on weekends, that was bacon and eggs or pancakes. I knew he avoided seeds and roughage, because that's what the Dr. told him to do. I know he also took Metamucil every day. I honestly never saw him sick. I cringe at the diet they ate. Never fresh fruit or salad. He was always very healthy anyway. Actually come to think about it, I never saw one fight between them ever. They were always so happy. I wonder if that had something to do with it???

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#12 Jun 17, 2012
Georgia wrote:
Hi Monica,
I hate to admit to you the diet my grandparents ate were meat and potatoes every night with a canned veggie. For breakfast my grandpa ate oatmeal every morning except on weekends, that was bacon and eggs or pancakes. I knew he avoided seeds and roughage, because that's what the Dr. told him to do. I know he also took Metamucil every day. I honestly never saw him sick. I cringe at the diet they ate. Never fresh fruit or salad. He was always very healthy anyway. Actually come to think about it, I never saw one fight between them ever. They were always so happy. I wonder if that had something to do with it???
Thanks for getting back to me Georgia. Happiness and positivity go a long way in this life.

I believe many people ate like them. And I also believe in those days they did not have the quantity of preservative and such added to the foods.

I love oatmeal and eat it several times a week. I also love pancakes!!!
Thanks again for sharing.

Monica
Georgia

United States

#13 Jun 18, 2012
Hi Monica,
One thing a few people that came up here were talking that they couldn't tolerate raw vegetables as well as they used to. I thought, well OK everybody's different. Now that it has happened 3 (something happens 3 times and I pay attention) times on me that if I eat to much broccoli--like everyday (I do love broccoli) for a few days, I will start to get a pain. The first time this happened about a week later, I had an attack. This was probably a couple of years ago.I didn't connect this till this time. it has happened 2 more times and I quit the broccoli and the pain went away. I know everyone is different, I just thought I'd mention this. I would have never thought of this if a few people hadn't mentioned their stories about raw vegetables.

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#14 Jun 18, 2012
Georgia wrote:
Hi Monica,
One thing a few people that came up here were talking that they couldn't tolerate raw vegetables as well as they used to. I thought, well OK everybody's different. Now that it has happened 3 (something happens 3 times and I pay attention) times on me that if I eat to much broccoli--like everyday (I do love broccoli) for a few days, I will start to get a pain. The first time this happened about a week later, I had an attack. This was probably a couple of years ago.I didn't connect this till this time. it has happened 2 more times and I quit the broccoli and the pain went away. I know everyone is different, I just thought I'd mention this. I would have never thought of this if a few people hadn't mentioned their stories about raw vegetables.
Thanks Georgia,

It makes perfect sense. I am not supposed to eat ( per my nutrionisty) raw vegetables, only cooked ones. But I can drink vegetable juices ( without the pulp), so that is what I do. I love raw salads and really miss them but at least I can drink the juices.

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