Hot pepper seeds causing diverticulitis

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Shade

Ajax, Canada

#1 Apr 13, 2012
Seems that it was hot pepper seeds that were causing the bulk or all my problems, and thought to post this incase some others are having a similar problem.

For the last 6 months I have been 100% cautious that the food I eat contains no hot pepper seeds, and for the last 6 months I have been symptom free :)

Maybe some others are having a similar problem.


Some history. I do, or did enjoy picking up many types of Italian (pizza), Indian, Korean and Chinese spicy foods. Male, late 40’s, Was having fairly serious attacks that lasted 5-10 days every 3-4 months starting a bit over 2 years ago. Serious lower belly pain spreading to whole belly area, weak, colon locks up, passed out once. Put on the normal set of antibiotics.

2 CAT scans, both showed inflamed colon, told it was diverticulitis. Second time one surgeon wanted to schedule me to cut out part of the colon.

Colonoscopy done after first attack showed some diverticula, but not too bad, told to come back in 5 years.

Since: Mar 12

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#2 Apr 13, 2012
Breads are hard to digest, Shade, and of course, seeds and hot peppers can cause problems, when you're having digestion problems from certain foods, like breads (including pizza), meats, beans, dairy, and other foods.

There are a lot of pages on the web that list hard-to-digest foods. Here's one page out of over five million pages:

http://www.qualityhealth.com/eating-nutrition...
Georgia

United States

#3 Apr 13, 2012
Hi Shade,
The one thing I have learned from this forum is everyone is different. I believe I have heard people say they stay away from spicy food. I have heard of a long list of foods people stay away from and a lot of times no one says the same thing. I am totally different as I eat anything I want. Stress caused my attacks. you are going to have to figure out what works for you. I will say some of us decided it could take up to a week between the time you eat something, it gets lodged in a pocket then gets inflamed enough for you to feel it.

Since: Mar 12

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#4 Apr 13, 2012
Georgia is absolutely right, Shade! Everyone is different and everyone's GI tract can react differently to certain foods.

In my case, my colon problem (and subsequent diverticulitis attacks for 10 months and colon resection surgery) was caused from eating bologna sandwiches, hamburgs, fries, milk, and all those junk foods that are hard to digest, causing constipation, bloating, severe inflammation, and then abdominal cramps due to two polyps that formed causing narrowing of the sigmoid colon -- all from being constipated for so long and eating the wrong foods for too many years.

I hope you won't have any further problems!
Shade

Toronto, Canada

#5 Apr 14, 2012
Yes, people are different. What helped me may or may not help others.

Yes, eating healthy foods is always a good idea.

Daily exercise can also help improve digestive and general health, and lower stress levels.
Ryan

Alameda, CA

#6 Apr 14, 2012
Shade wrote:
Seems that it was hot pepper seeds that were causing the bulk or all my problems, and thought to post this incase some others are having a similar problem.
For the last 6 months I have been 100% cautious that the food I eat contains no hot pepper seeds, and for the last 6 months I have been symptom free :)
Maybe some others are having a similar problem.
Some history. I do, or did enjoy picking up many types of Italian (pizza), Indian, Korean and Chinese spicy foods. Male, late 40’s, Was having fairly serious attacks that lasted 5-10 days every 3-4 months starting a bit over 2 years ago. Serious lower belly pain spreading to whole belly area, weak, colon locks up, passed out once. Put on the normal set of antibiotics.
2 CAT scans, both showed inflamed colon, told it was diverticulitis. Second time one surgeon wanted to schedule me to cut out part of the colon.
Colonoscopy done after first attack showed some diverticula, but not too bad, told to come back in 5 years.
Second this one. Just got over an attack this week. Was a mild one with some fever but little pain. Went on liquids and advil for a day and recovered. Had hot pepper seeds on my pasta lunch Tuesday because I thought that I was over my attacks as I finally realized mine were brought on by stress. Apparently there are still some foods that trigger it. Luckily no meds this time.
Georgia

United States

#7 Apr 14, 2012
Hi Ryan,
I don't think you can blame the pepper seeds just yet. Sounds like you just didn't know you should follow a low fiber/residue diet for up to 4 weeks. There is no spicy food on that diet, as it takes up to 4 weeks, or in some cases longer, for your colon to heal from your attack. After your liquid diet for a few days please try the Mayo Clinic Diverticulitis diet for a few weeks--give or take, depending on you, and you should be pain free.
Low-fiber foods include: Canned fruits, Desserts without seeds or nuts, Eggs, Enriched white bread, Fruit juice with little or no pulp, Low-fiber cereals, Milk, Yogurt or cheese without seeds or nuts, Smooth peanut butter, Tender meat, poultry and fish,White rice or plain pasta, noodles or macaroni, Well-cooked vegetables without seeds or skins. You may need this low fiber diet for a couple weeks or more before slowly starting back on the fiber foods. Also it is extremely important to eat tiny meals—about the size of half a sandwich. To much food can also cause a good amount of pain. Good luck, I sure hope this helps.
Ryan

Alameda, CA

#8 Apr 14, 2012
Georgia wrote:
Hi Ryan,
I don't think you can blame the pepper seeds just yet. Sounds like you just didn't know you should follow a low fiber/residue diet for up to 4 weeks. There is no spicy food on that diet, as it takes up to 4 weeks, or in some cases longer, for your colon to heal from your attack. After your liquid diet for a few days please try the Mayo Clinic Diverticulitis diet for a few weeks--give or take, depending on you, and you should be pain free.
Low-fiber foods include: Canned fruits, Desserts without seeds or nuts, Eggs, Enriched white bread, Fruit juice with little or no pulp, Low-fiber cereals, Milk, Yogurt or cheese without seeds or nuts, Smooth peanut butter, Tender meat, poultry and fish,White rice or plain pasta, noodles or macaroni, Well-cooked vegetables without seeds or skins. You may need this low fiber diet for a couple weeks or more before slowly starting back on the fiber foods. Also it is extremely important to eat tiny meals—about the size of half a sandwich. To much food can also cause a good amount of pain. Good luck, I sure hope this helps.
I have heard about this low fiber diet but I worry that if I get constipation won't that trigger another attack? I did start taking Metamucil again recently. I wonder if it was too soon?
Georgia

United States

#9 Apr 14, 2012
Ryan,
I think if you had pain after the Metamucil it was to soon to start taking it. Some of the Dr.'s recommend Miralax if you have a problem with constipation. It is gentle, I took it for a couple of weeks right after an attack. Also drink lots of water.
Ryan

Alameda, CA

#10 Apr 14, 2012
Georgia wrote:
Ryan,
I think if you had pain after the Metamucil it was to soon to start taking it. Some of the Dr.'s recommend Miralax if you have a problem with constipation. It is gentle, I took it for a couple of weeks right after an attack. Also drink lots of water.
Miralax, this is the first I have heard of this. I will give it a try along with the low residue diet. Thank you!
Shade

Hamilton, Canada

#11 Apr 14, 2012
Ryan wrote:
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Second this one.... Luckily no meds this time.
Those hot pepper seed are everywhere. Try to cut them out totally and see if it helps. I also really hate having to go on the meds.

For constipation, When recovering with your system now cleared out can transition from a clear liquid diet to eating some small amounts of food that are lower in fiber. Can read up on that. Basically don’t eat much at first and there will not be much in you to cause constipation. I eat crackers, some noodle soup or toast with an egg, stuff like that.

When feeling well can eat more and transition into a normal healthy higher fiber diet. Important if you are going to take Metamucil to increase the amount you take daily, slowly, or you will become bloated and gassy, which can be painful.

Mary

Lubbock, TX

#12 Apr 14, 2012
Miralax rocks, and I only take 1 teaspoon per day. It is not a stimulant laxative, and hence does not cause the colon spasms or addictive problems that other laxatives do.
Shade

Hamilton, Canada

#13 Apr 14, 2012
Deb from Mich wrote:
...of course, seeds ... can cause problems
No Link Found Between Diverticular Disease And Consumption Of Nuts, Seeds, And Corn
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/1192...

Since: Mar 12

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#14 Apr 15, 2012
Shade,

I've recently read that, too, Shade. My response concerning seeds was only to agree with the masses here, who tend to only believe in medical studies and medical advice (which I don't, by the way).

I do believe that, if you already have pockets in the colon due to having diverticulosis (because of other reasons), seeds, nuts, and corn can get stuck in those pockets, which could cause problems in the future, including infection and abscesses, etc.

I don't think seeds, nuts, or popcorn will cause diverticulosis, but they're not advised (by doctors) after you've been diagnosed with having diverticulosis, due to the complications they can cause.

Since: Mar 12

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#15 Apr 15, 2012
Further clarification: I can tell you that in the last 11 years, since I think I've had diverticulosis, whenever I ate too much popcorn, I would have cramps that night. The first sign of cramps that I had was after eating popcorn. A little popcorn wouldn't bother me. That would usually happen when I went to the movie theatre and would stuff a large box of popcorn into my mouth.

I've never noticed having any problems when eating nuts, which I didn't do very often in the past -- and I very rarely eat any seeds, except seeds in tomatoes, which I also don't eat very often.

BTP and TMI: The way I solved the too-much-popcorn problem was I quit going to the movie theatre, bought a big-screen TV and a Tivo unit, recorded over 5,000 movies that are now on DVDs, and then subscribed to Netflix, plus hooked it all up to my computer and stereo system in my bedroom, so I can lie in bed and watch anything on my big-screen TV (and get backaches in the process, so I'm currently working on quitting that and getting my ass into gear and getting things done -- now that I've had part of my colon removed and feel so much better). I very rarely will eat popcorn when I'm watching TV at home.
Shade

Ottawa, Canada

#16 Apr 15, 2012
Deb from Mich wrote:
I ate too much popcorn
Everything in moderation, but if you had the toppings on the popcorn then that could be part of the problem, as they contain so much fat and salt. Junk food is loaded with fat and salt. Small bag of potato chips has half a day’s worth of fat, small cube of cheese has quarter day’s fat.
Deb from Mich wrote:
I've never noticed having any problems when eating nuts, which I didn't do very often in the past -- and I very rarely eat any seeds, except seeds in tomatoes, which I also don't eat very often.
Our bodies evolved over millions of years getting lots of exercise and digesting nuts, berries, fruits, vegetables, and maybe some meats, eggs, etc. We in North America are wealthy enough to eat a different or processed food diet and attempt to compensate with gagits and drugs, but it is not really the best option.
Deb from Mich wrote:
I quit going to the movie theatre, bought a big-screen TV and a Tivo unit, recorded over 5,000 movies that are now on DVDs,
There is some link with our sedentary lifestyle and diverticulitis. There is a clear link between this sedentary lifestyle and other much more serious deadly conditions.
Mom

Overland Park, KS

#17 Apr 15, 2012
Ryan wrote:
<quoted text>
I have heard about this low fiber diet but I worry that if I get constipation won't that trigger another attack? I did start taking Metamucil again recently. I wonder if it was too soon?
Ryan, the low residue/fiber is vital to letting your colon heal. You are right to be concerned about constipation creating problems but during the weeks you are on low fiber, you can control the constipation with miralax or a stool softener. Talk to your doctor about what is best for you. You a right, stress plays a huge role, but it isnt usually the whole of it. Stress can certainly lead to an attack....just read through here...but other variables also factor in.
dr fungus says

Kellyville, Australia

#18 Jun 27, 2012
dear all cause of diverticulitis is so simple that nobody will believe it people would rather give part of their intestins away then believe in chronic candidal infection which causes bloating and candidal person does not digest ferments instead fermenmted food is ethanol and rot this rot is then delivered to body cells to feed on it would be similar like delivering charcoal to furniture factory to make furniture.when body cells are feed on fermented rot there is no nutrients cells become veak like elastic band exposed to sun it doesnt stretch any more and does not come back to previous shape it may even break.then of course vhen candidal bloating creates pockets in the intestines foods like seeds get traped inside and create infection.diverticulitis diet should be bulky so it does not get trapped in these pockets.if candida is not controlled for life end result is diabetes and cancer.i call it human body musrooms and truffles,as mushrooms love warm moist and dark place to grow and human body is a perfect compost bin to grow them if one eats fungal foods or foods which fuel candida.people are programmed to worship science these guys are dying from same diseases they curing us from.WAKE UP WORLD or die in pain.
Gillian

UK

#19 Jun 28, 2012
I thought you'd crawled back from wherever you came from!
dr fungus says

Kellyville, Australia

#20 Jun 29, 2012
Gillian wrote:
I thought you'd crawled back from wherever you came from!
oh yes gillian should i apologise for been born centuryes prematurely,what i speak today people of tomorrow will understand,i feel like modern days galileo galilei or graff von zeppelin,they were considred as madmen.life for me is not easy,with so many hibernating in their ignorance.what i find laughable when i speak about health diet and disease causing foods,people ask me if i have any scientific proof about my claims.but when i speak about religion nobody ask me if i have any scientific proof.

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