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Jade

Bigfork, MT

#1 Oct 12, 2008
Hi to all, July I had alot of pain,Dr. thought it was a bladder infection,but I had no pain peeing.
The pain was really really bad cramps,came in intervolts. Almost like being in child labor. So
had a CT scan and it showed Diverticulitis. Was
on Cipro 500 twice a day for ten days. Worked great,pain was letting up,finally pain was gone
for two weeks. Then started with the same pain all over again but caught it earlier than last before the heavy pain started. Now I'm wondering
if its bladder cause I feel heavy in that area.
Can anyone tell me if peeing frequent and feeling heavy is a part of this Diver problem? Thanks..Jade

Since: Jun 08

Trevose, PA

#2 Oct 13, 2008
Jade,

Bladder pain is common with diver. The bladder is a "stupid organ". It does not know where the stimuli is coming from, internal or external, it just reacts and sends pain to the brain. I learned that line from my wife when the doctor explained bladder pain during pregnancy, but I found out the hard way that the bladder is affected quite often by diver.

Men actually can perforate their bladder with the disease and woman have been known to perforate into their vagina. My FIRST episode of diver back around 1989-1990 was misdiagnosed as bladder. I was 28. How many men do you know who get bladder infections?

I had surgery in May after thinking I had a bladder infection that would not go away. Thank God my family doctor was not convinced that was the problem and sent me for a CT scan. I saw my surgeon and got the run down on bladder pain and diver and scheduled surgery (after declining for 20 years). During my hospital stay a man presented to my surgeon with a perforated bladder, his family doctor and urologist had been treating him for a bladder infection for 3 months. By the time he got to the surgeon, he needed emergency surgery.

Feel better soon!

Patt

Since: Jun 08

Trevose, PA

#3 Oct 13, 2008
Jade,

Go read Greg's post under "diverticulitis attack recovery time".

Misdiagnosed UTI for 3 weeks and wound up int the ER.

Patt
Jade

Bigfork, MT

#4 Oct 13, 2008
Hi Patrick, Thanks for your reply!!! Sure helped me mentally. I thought maybe the Diver was not the culprit entirly or I have two things going on at the same time. I think I could pee constantly,I know I'm drinking alot more water which is good,but holy cow enough is enough. My bladder just feels full all the time. I'm on my seventh day of Cipro. I read Greg's comment...thanks. I'm not feeling so paronoid now.
Patrick what would all of us do without you!!!!!! I could hug you! Thanks bunches....Jade
Joy

United States

#5 Oct 13, 2008
Hi Jade, I also feel more pressure when my bladder is full than is normal for me when my dever is acting up. I went through thinking I had a bladder infection and/or menstrual type cramps... but in the end it was just the diverticulitis. Good for you drinking lots of water, I have been doing that lately and I think it is helping :-) Hope you feel better.

Joy

Since: Jun 08

Trevose, PA

#6 Oct 14, 2008
Jade wrote:
Hi Patrick, Thanks for your reply!!! Sure helped me mentally. I thought maybe the Diver was not the culprit entirly or I have two things going on at the same time. I think I could pee constantly,I know I'm drinking alot more water which is good,but holy cow enough is enough. My bladder just feels full all the time. I'm on my seventh day of Cipro. I read Greg's comment...thanks. I'm not feeling so paronoid now.
Patrick what would all of us do without you!!!!!! I could hug you! Thanks bunches....Jade
Jade,

Thank you for your kind words!

Patt
Connie

United States

#7 Oct 15, 2008
Hi Jade,

I was being treated for UTI's for 2 months before they finally sent me to a colon DR. I never knew for the first 2 months it had ANYTHING to do with my colon, just thought it was bad UTI's. My urologist used the scope to look inside my bladder and could see a sore at the top left side that would not heal. It ended up my bladder and colon had a fistula, the two had connected at some point and an a small opening is formed between the 2, thus letting bacteria from the colon into the bladder.
Once the Colon surgeon decided I needed surgery, he did not even think the urologist needed to be present, that by removing the bad part of colon the bladder would heal itself...so far so good, It has been almost 5 weeks and I had my urine checked last week and it did not have bacteria or blood present.
Hope this helps you out!

Connie
Jade wrote:
Hi to all, July I had alot of pain,Dr. thought it was a bladder infection,but I had no pain peeing.
The pain was really really bad cramps,came in intervolts. Almost like being in child labor. So
had a CT scan and it showed Diverticulitis. Was
on Cipro 500 twice a day for ten days. Worked great,pain was letting up,finally pain was gone
for two weeks. Then started with the same pain all over again but caught it earlier than last before the heavy pain started. Now I'm wondering
if its bladder cause I feel heavy in that area.
Can anyone tell me if peeing frequent and feeling heavy is a part of this Diver problem? Thanks..Jade
Jade

Bigfork, MT

#8 Oct 15, 2008
Oh good lord Connie! Hope all stays well with you.
Thanks for the info. It is so great that we have this forum. I get the colonoscopy in Dec. Hope
everything is good inside. Would a CT scan shown your problem to begin with Connie? Thanks...Jade

Since: Jun 08

Trevose, PA

#9 Oct 16, 2008
Connie,

That's what prompted my surgery after almost 20 years of putting it off. The bladder pain hurt worse than my left side did AND my doctor told me that if the perforation is left untreated and the infection spreads to your kidneys, you're cured. Death cures diver. And I had the bladder pain for 2 month.

Five minutes after that conversation I had a date with the knife.

Hope you all feel better soon!

Patt
Connie

United States

#10 Oct 16, 2008
Jade,

The CT scan did not show the fistula ( connection between the colon and bladder) the DR said most of the time it will not..but with the urologist seeing the sore inside my bladder they where pretty sure that was what was happening. I never even had a clue I had diver until a month before surgery I had first colonostomy and that was a different DR who said he seen "mild diver" from what they told me it is hard to detect a fistula with a colonostomy, he said they can see the "pocket" but of course can not dig into it and see inside of the pocket well. I guess they can see if it is inflamed or infected, in my case he did not see either, but I had been on many rounds of antibiotics so that may have calmed it down before they looked.
I am not sure why they never did a barum.

Take care,

Connie
Connie

United States

#11 Oct 16, 2008
Jade,

I also forgot to tell you that I did have pain when my bladder was full and I was getting up 4-8 times a night to go pee, of course you would just think it was something wrong with the bladder, have you been to a urologist? He is the one that sent me to the colon surgeon as he was just sure it was the colon affecting my bladder and he was so right!

Take care,
Connie
Connie

United States

#12 Oct 16, 2008
Patt,

did you have the full open of lap?
Boy good thing I got it all taken care of quick, it just started in April and I am 5 weeks post now.
The said after getting all the bad colon out I am just like new!
Did it help you or have you had any problems since?

Thanks,
Connie

Since: Jun 08

Trevose, PA

#13 Oct 17, 2008
Connie,

I answered your other post first. I had lap. I thought I a stomach bug and bladder infection that would not go away (over a month) and after having my own staff send ME home, I called my doctor to get checked out. Got seen right away. Doctor thought same thing I did, we never even thought it was diver, I'd had diver 20 years and this felt like "a bug", BUT, my "bladder" infection was odd, it did not hurt to pee, it hurt to "control the flow" (pull back rather than relax). Doc sent me for a CT scan to be sure and radiologist did not want me to leave the hospital. He got my family doc on the phone who authorized my release on oral meds. I'm one the lucky one who responds very well and quickly to the oral antibiotics.

I'd had a scope 18 month earlier and my gastro doc TOLD me next time I'd have an attack of diver he'd probably have to give me a colostomy and made me promise to see him if (really when) I had next attack. I called and got in and found out how bad I was. I assumed whole time I'd have open surgery, found out that appointment I'd be lap. Thank you God!

Not only was I lap, but I had a new procedure with a new "ring" system to close my bowel. I was one of 300 people to have had that particular procedure in the country. Not having the staples in the bowel lets you feel better a couple days faster. Surgery was Friday night, I had the narcotic pain reliever take out of my arm Saturday and I was up and walking Saturday. I had clear liquids Saturday morning. Sunday night I had a real dinner, Monday before discharge I had ham and cheese omlet, wheat toast, hash browns juice, milk etc...

I'd talked to people who had the surgery and "Knew" I'd down and out for months. I asked doc why I felt so good (just tired) so fast and was told it was the new ring procedure.

FYI, I have been pronounced CURED! I feel great, no pain, pooping like I did in high school (TMI) and blown away at how much of my life that *^^%(^% pain in my side took up! The surgeon said I'd feel like new too, my colon was so spastic and so hard I did not realize how bad I felt until I felt good! Also feel very lucky, I was such an ass about the surgery, I should have perforated years ago. I was more lucky than smart.

Feel better soon!

Patt
Melissa

San Jose, CA

#14 Jan 11, 2013
While it is uncommon, diverticulitis may actually erode to the bladder, leading to an infection. It is possible that the bladder pain you are experiencing may be related to your diverticulitis, although it's always best that you consult your doctor about this so he or she could recommend the appropriate treatment for you. For more information about bladder problems and treatments, http://www.bladderslingrecall.us could be a great reference for you.
Robin

Jefferson, NY

#15 Jan 13, 2013
This was a while back... Jade did you find out what was wrong? I have been experiencing the exact same thing, and the doc seems baffled. Not a UTI but antibiotic cleared symptoms for about two weeks, now I am PMS and it's all back, the bladder pain, cramps, frequent peeing... The heavy feeling low in my abdomen, like I always need to pee but never feel like it's enough. It's not ofen intensely painful, more like constant discomfort and tenderness.. Getting very worried. Yours is the most accurate description of my symptoms anywhere! Please let me know! Thanks!
Candice

Brooklyn, NY

#16 Jan 25, 2013
It's good to know that there are natural treatment options available for addressing vaginal infections. However, it's best to seek a doctor's consent prior to taking them to ensure safety. There is added information at http://www.bladdermeshlawsuit.us about bladder or vaginal problems and possible treatments.
Marie Patterson

Matawan, NJ

#17 Mar 8, 2013
In most cases, symptoms of diverticulitis may be differentiated with that of urinary problems. This discomfort of your bladder may be the result of the tenderness in your abdominal area which may radiate to your pelvic organs. Just to be sure, have a second opinion from a second specialist.You may want to learn more about diverticulitis and urinary problems and find out its respective symptoms. Search through google about divertivulitis and vagina/urinary conditions.

vaginalmeshlawsuitcenter.us/va ginal-mesh/complications-side- effects/
anna

York, UK

#18 Apr 11, 2013
Hi, I ve read all the above posts. It makes really interesting reading, partic the bladder/bowel fistula.

My 74 yr old mum was diagnosed with divert disease years ago but had absolutely no bother til she got an impacted bowel before Christmas, plus uti.

Bowel cleared, uti cleared but left with left-sided, low abdo pain. Sounds like classic divert pain. Doctors did xray, flexible endoscopy and ct scan. All is normal, they say...

Meanwhile, Mum has Just had another 'uti' but not responding to second bout of antibiotics. Seen by registrar on Tuesday just gone and STILL has blood and protein in her wee. She nearly hit the roof when he felt her bladder area. Her pain is now dull but also stings, she says, and is getting more painful in her lower back too. She's needing 2-hourly Oramorph liquid to cope with the pain. Waiting for colonoscopy :(
Nancy V

Peoria, IL

#19 Apr 11, 2013
Well lots of similarities. I am 6 months out from developing symptoms. I knew I had Divertics from a previous colonoscopy. My initial symptoms were similar to UTI, however like others did not hurt when I urinated only when I used the muscles in that area . 2 bouts of Cipro followed by an emergency trip and hospitalization for 6 days with ischemic bowel attack. Home with more antibiotics. Saw my GI doc and he ordered a barium enema but it was changed to gastrographin (water soluble). My bladder lit up with the gastrographin. I have a colovesical fistula. Scheduled now for sigmoid colon resection and bladder repair. Very anxious about how this post surgery will change my life. However there is no choices with this. I cannot go off antibiotics until this is repaired due to the risk of sepsis.
anna

Driffield, UK

#21 Apr 25, 2013
Nancy V wrote:
Well lots of similarities. I am 6 months out from developing symptoms. I knew I had Divertics from a previous colonoscopy. My initial symptoms were similar to UTI, however like others did not hurt when I urinated only when I used the muscles in that area . 2 bouts of Cipro followed by an emergency trip and hospitalization for 6 days with ischemic bowel attack. Home with more antibiotics. Saw my GI doc and he ordered a barium enema but it was changed to gastrographin (water soluble). My bladder lit up with the gastrographin. I have a colovesical fistula. Scheduled now for sigmoid colon resection and bladder repair. Very anxious about how this post surgery will change my life. However there is no choices with this. I cannot go off antibiotics until this is repaired due to the risk of sepsis.
Really sorry to hear you ve been through all this. Hope the op goes really smoothly and that you make all the necessary adjustments okay, one step at a time.

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