Dispelling the Myth About Nuts & Seed...

Dispelling the Myth About Nuts & Seeds. Who's Been Brave?

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mrhagerty

United States

#1 Apr 30, 2010
Now that there are numerous articles (including my doctor) calling the old the nuts, seeds, popcorn thingy a myth as to triggering ľosis into -itis, has anyone been brave enough to add these back into their diet with success?

Mike
Susan M

Souderton, PA

#2 Apr 30, 2010
I have added them back into my diet but do not eat a huge amount of them. Anything I cannot chew to a pulp, I spit out.

Since: Apr 10

Tempe, AZ

#3 Apr 30, 2010
Which is interesting because the research coming out of late is saying that these items in their rougher state actually help prevent attacks rather than cause them. Which would mean chewing them to a pulp was not necessary.

I'm obviously in dread fear of precipitating something that researchers still don't know about all this, but so many articles are appearing now, I don't think it's just popular whacko-ism.

Mike
Suzanne

Buffalo, NY

#4 May 1, 2010
My doctor has been practicing a long time and he said most attacks can be traced back to nuts/seeds. He is skeptical of the new research based on what his patients have reported to him over the years. I can trace my two attacks to nuts and sees...so I'm not willing to risk it. But boy oh boy would I love a piece of pecan pie...
Susan M

Souderton, PA

#5 May 1, 2010
Yes I can trace 2 of my 3 attacks to nuts. My doctor also does not reject the nuts and seeds factor. I do get plenty of fiber but not from nuts and seeds!

Since: Apr 10

Tempe, AZ

#6 May 4, 2010
Thank you all. That was going to be my follow-up question to the group - who has experienced an attack that followed directly after eating nuts or seeds?

The literature is offering that it's hard to link the attacks directly to nuts and seeds because hardly anyone has had a colonscope during an attack where a doctor has seen infected seeds or nuts in a diverticulum. Ergo, it's attributed to infected fecal matter that happened to coincide with these foods. And there are attacks in which these foods are not a factor at all.

I'm with you two in not risking my health to find out.

Thanks.
Suzanne

Ozone Park, NY

#7 May 4, 2010
~who has experienced an attack that followed directly after eating nuts or seeds?~

(Raises hand, waves wildly) I have!

I've been reading this board on and off since my first attack exactly 2 months ago. I've been a vegetarian for 15 years so should have been protected from this type of ailment, but no. I did suddenly add nuts and seeds to my diet--was having "everything" crackers (you know, encrusted with black and white sesame seeds, poppy seeds, sunflower seeds) and sliced almonds for snacks and sometimes even instead of a meal. I ignored the little odd stabbing pain in my *right* side until I suddenly had severe pains shooting through most of my lower abdomen. Long story short, I was lucky--no perforation, and if there was an infection, my brief time on flagyl and cipro killed it off before I got too sick to continue the meds. I have no health insurance, and while I could pay for a doctor and the meds, I can't afford a CAT scan to see what the damage was. Recovery is incredibly slow, but I am recovering (after some dietary misjudgments).

Definitive proof that the nuts and seeds did it: over a week after I'd last eaten them, I passed the evidence. I must have been collecting it in the diverticula for quite a while, judging from the amount and the hard, gnarled feces they were embedded in, which had somehow stayed lodged even through the med-induced diarrhea attacks. And my worst pains finally stopped after I got rid of these lumps.

Sorry if I grossed you out, but I want to emphatically warn you all not to risk your innards by experimenting!
mrhagerty

Waltham, MA

#8 May 6, 2010
Excellent feedback and thanks Susanne.

I was actually on the verge of doing what you did by adding things back. I was impressed that you did have evidence in the stool, which most folks miss I believe.

Thanks for your aggressive and attentive care of yourself. I'm sorry you had to find out the hard way, in order to benefit others.

Mike
Joy

Fremont, CA

#9 May 6, 2010
My first attack was after a week in the Netherlands when I ate peanuts every evening... so I have to say that I believe that there is a connection. Hope that helps, Joy
aileenmb

Mississauga, Canada

#10 May 7, 2010
What does anyone think about surgery to get rid of the offending diverticula?
A friend had this after her FIRST attack and has been fine ever since.
Why is this not more widely the solution? What are the pros and cons of this approach?
aileenmb

Mississauga, Canada

#11 May 7, 2010
This may appear twice as "they" didn't like my first number!
I asked what others feel about surery to remove the offending diverticulae. A friend had her first attack about a year ago... ended up in hospital where they removed the offending diverticulae.
She's been fine ever since.
Anyone else with this experience. H
How dangerous is the operation? Is it worth it?
Joy

Brampton, Canada

#12 May 7, 2010
Hi Alleenmb, Everyone is different and sometimes people require emergency surgery on their first attack if it is very severe or they have an abcess, perforation or fistula. If it is uncomplicated diverticulitis then sometimes people will wait and see if it comes back! Took me 7 years and probably 7 or 8 attacks before I decided to have the elective surgery. best decision I ever made! I am doing well and feeling great almost a year and a half after my surgery. I wish I hadn't waited so long but I kept thinking I could solve the problem with changes to my diet! Take Care, Joy
Shade

Toronto, Canada

#13 Jul 13, 2010
Had a second attack a few weeks ago, and was eating pop corn a few days before the attack. After reading that it was a myth that pop corn caused any problems, I ate more. Also, had Chinese food with the hot peppers and pepper seeds in it the day before the attack. Both these foods are not in my normal diet.
brads

Brisbane, Australia

#14 Jul 14, 2010
mrhagerty wrote:
Now that there are numerous articles (including my doctor) calling the old the nuts, seeds, popcorn thingy a myth as to triggering ľosis into -itis, has anyone been brave enough to add these back into their diet with success?
Mike
the reason they tell to avoid these foods is it makes the stools harder and dry
Tracy

Jackson, MS

#15 Jul 14, 2010
Seeds and nuts. Yep, a deffinite trigger for me before I had my surgery. STAY AWAY from them. Post surgery, I have been told I can eat anything I want because all of the diseased colon was removed. I have been and NO problems. My surgeon is pro-active and advised me to take a fiber supplement everyday for the rest of my life as a preventative measure for diverticuli developing somewhere else. Wise man. Why chance it right? Anyway, stay away from the nuts, seeds, popcorn etc is my advice. And as for surgery, if you reach that point, DO IT. I had been sick for months before my surgery. I feel so much better 7 weeks post op than I did for months before the surgery. Good luck to all:)
aileenmb

Toronto, Canada

#16 Jul 15, 2010
Many thanx for your replies.
What I REALLY miss is being able to eat corn in the summer (living in Canada the corn is wonderful). Also, I had a lot of frozen raspberries and redcurrants in the freezer (picked in the summer). Didn't want to waste them and was really upset I couldn't make them into jam, so - made them into jelly. Didn't make nearly as much of course, but it tastes wonderful - so that's just one suggestion where you can use "seeded" fruits.
After 3 attacks I've become a bit paranoid about anything with seeds. I know you all feel the same...
I did wonder if having the offending diverticulae would solve the problem, but I have a feeling it would just move to another place!!
Awful affliction - and nobody but those of us who have it seem to be aware of it at all!!
Alix

Wichita, KS

#17 Jul 15, 2010
My doctor said, that although conventional medical wisdom says it doesn't matter what you eat (relating to nuts/seeds/corn, etc), 90% of his patients who have attacks can trace the source of the attack back to something they've recently eaten! So he told me to do what I "knew" was right for me--and I agree! I certainly will be avoiding nuts/seeds/corn because I "know" they are my triggers.
Lee

United States

#18 Jul 16, 2010
I am sitting here at lunch as i read these posts, diligently picking the sesame seeds off my sushi before popping into my mouth. Since my first attack, culminating in a perforation, I have avoided any seeds. not quite sure about fresh corn though, I haven't tried it yet but i wonder...I can see popcorn being a problem but why would the soft kernels of a fresh sweet corn bring problems?
another question I have- how long after eating something bad for you, do you get an attack?
Alix

United States

#19 Jul 16, 2010
LOL...I picked the seeds off my sushi just 2 days ago! But seriously, How long does it take after eating something "bad" before I get an attack...for me it's between 2-4 days. Long enough for something to move thru my digestive system, and get stuck there, I guess.
Mercy

Saugerties, NY

#20 Jul 19, 2010
mrhagerty wrote:
Thank you all. That was going to be my follow-up question to the group - who has experienced an attack that followed directly after eating nuts or seeds?
The literature is offering that it's hard to link the attacks directly to nuts and seeds because hardly anyone has had a colonscope during an attack where a doctor has seen infected seeds or nuts in a diverticulum. Ergo, it's attributed to infected fecal matter that happened to coincide with these foods. And there are attacks in which these foods are not a factor at all.
I'm with you two in not risking my health to find out.
Thanks.
I can honestly say that my attack, for which I ended up in ER yesterday on IV antibiotic after CT scan, is DIRECTLY RELATED to those little snack packages of granola and almonds. How do I know this? Because, stupid me!, I began having symptoms the day after eating this stuff (gas, diarrhea) AND to make it worse I even considered that this stuff was causing it. I make notes of what I eat (keep a journal) and rarely have diarrhea or constipation. SO WHY DID I KEEP EATING IT? Rank stupidity and now look at me.

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