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Specific Carbohydrate Diet Support and recipes (SCD)

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#1 Sep 25, 2012
Hi all:

I really need an SCD diet-only thread. The combo gluten-free thread just made me want to rush out and get a gluten free pizza!!

lol.
Betsy

Berlin, Germany

#2 Sep 25, 2012
Now I get it. So we are here, great. SCD-diet. My almond flour arrived, and if I am not mistaken, you can make a pizza from almond flour, no? I was sort of shook up about the size of the bag, not very much .... those are going to be precious muffins. I have not started yet, but I would be interested in what people plan to do for breakfast?

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#3 Sep 26, 2012
There's a recipe in the book for banana pancakes. It's one over-ripe banana and an egg. I've had it. Super easy and pretty tasty. Also, I've made almond pancakes with an egg, almond flour, honey, and a little baking soda. The honey makes it burn easily, so be careful.

But I think there's kind of a ramp-up associated with the diet. Like there's no dairy of any kind at first, or something? I need to check the book.

It's late here so I'm off to bed. Enjoy breakfast!

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#4 Sep 26, 2012
I had two boiled eggs with pasture butter today for brekkie.
Betsy

Berlin, Germany

#5 Sep 27, 2012
Good morning, Pasture butter, that makes it sound so pretty. I like boiled eggs, so I guess that is what I will do.----The book says no dairy of any kind EXCEPT certain cheeses (like brick & cheddar, etc., but no mozzarella). I have not really figured that part out, because I always considered cheese to be dairy.------And there is lactose free yoghurt she gives directions for - so could one buy really good ready made lactose-free yoghurt at the health food store?

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#6 Sep 27, 2012
Hey there:

It's complicated isn't it? On pg 76 of "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" she says, "Use butter, not margarine...Cultured butter if available, is highly recommended." Pasture butter is cultured butter and it's really good. Butter in Germany might be cultured anyway! The issue with dairy is mainly about the lactose being gone. She says hard aged cheeses are ok because the lactose has been eaten up. She also talks about fermenting your own yogurt for 24 hours so that all the lactose is gone and not having commercial. There are quite a few details to get used to!
Betsy

Berlin, Germany

#8 Sep 27, 2012
Hi Applecake - my almond flour and coconut flour arrived, and today I am making the muffins. Will be buying farmers' eggs later on. Pasture butter sounds more quaint than cultures butter, and now I get it, they sell it at the health food store. Thnx. Cottage cheese seems to be okay, too. The farmer cheese & yoghurt at the local health food store are lactose-free says the really knowledgeable lady there because of the way they were made -"dextrogyrated lactic acids", which sounds like a hoax, but is supposed to be true.I am gonna go with it because I am afraid of gobbling up too much cheese. Salad with cheese sprinkled over it for dinner, will have to switch to lemon instead of vinegar, alas.-- Many details, yes, I have been re-reading the book for over a year now.
Anne

Canada

#9 Sep 28, 2012
Betsy wrote:
Cottage cheese seems to be okay, too. The farmer cheese & yoghurt at the local health food store are lactose-free says the really knowledgeable lady there because of the way they were made -"dextrogyrated lactic acids", which sounds like a hoax, but is supposed to be true.I am gonna go with it because I am afraid of gobbling up too much cheese.
Hi Betsy,

I didn't think cottage cheese was allowed on the diet unless it is the "dry curd" kind. Is that the one you mean? I noticed on the SCD website that they say cottage cheese is "illegal". I remember when I was trying the diet a few years ago that I could never find the dry curd kind so couldn't eat cottage cheese.

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#10 Sep 28, 2012
I bought a brand called "Farmer's Cheese" when I was trying the diet soon after my surgery. I was still really lactose intolerant then and I was so excited to try a cheese that I could eat. I got this soft Farmer's Cheese took 3 bites and about an hour later, BOOM! Major stomach cramps - very intense pain. It turns out not all Farmer's Cheese is created equal. What I had was more along the lines of ricotta -- and very high in lactose as it turns out.
Betsy

Berlin, Germany

#11 Sep 29, 2012
Hi Applecake, I looked up what dry curd cottage cheese is in German (Hüttenkaese they say, but that is balogne, that's normal cottage cheese)- but that German Farmer cheese I was yacking about seems to be it - the lower fat content, the "drier". Goes down like cement, let me tell you. And a propos cement, man, I baked my first almond flour bread and it tasted like baked cement - I mean at least it stuck together and I can "pretend" it's bread, but almond flour's consistency is so different (although I followed her recipe carefully - it called for 2 and a half cups, albeit ground almonds, so I used like 2 cups of almond and coconut flour, and wow, this cement bread also has a soapy taste from the coconut, if you know what I mean). I think the recipe lends itself better to muffins, then you can toss in a few raisins and real nuts.---- I don't have lactose or gluten intolerance, so I would not be able to tell. It's gotta be tough when you have it (those bagels you had sounded delicious, if I may say so). I am doing this for the infectious effect these two ingredients supposedly have on the intestines, because my "diet" has been relatively careful, and still the infection ahs not gone away in 3 years. So have a nice brekkie, enjoy the pasture butter (got some and put it on the cement bread) with your eggs. I think this almond flour will work better for pancakes. Greetings from over the ocean

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#12 Sep 30, 2012
Betsy,

You crack me up. I made those muffins, too. I probably ate 5 or 6 out of the whole batch and tossed the rest. They went down with a thud. I needed to toast them in the broiler and put honey and butter on them....But they're good when you're craving carbs and want to trick yourself.

I just made "swedish pancake style" pancakes with the almond flour.

1 egg
1/3 c. almond flour
and then: bad girl disclaimer:
splash of soymilk (haven't kicked it yet)
about 3/4 tsp. organic sugar (i know...i know...)
splash of vanilla
mix it all up

fry in butter & canola oil

eat with blueberry preserves & homemade yogurt.

Sorry. I'm not doing so well on the diet yet. It's gradual for me.
Betsy

Berlin, Germany

#13 Sep 30, 2012
**********CHEATERCHEATERCHEATE R******- Funny isn't it? The muffin & bread recipe sounds so good - yesterday, efore I read your post I made a pancake, too - and well, let's just say that I apparently had raised expectations. One has to get used to that flour. I ended up with honey on the pancake, ate half and then I added it to a nice cucumber-chicken-red pepper salad with oil and (ahem) vinegar, that was nice. So nice that I packed half of it up and put it in the fridge for tonight (all these half portions - that is not me at all).--- I don't understand the no soy part of the diet; I myself am allergic to soy (although German allergy doctors tell me I am NOT - Germans: NOT!!!!!) allergic to anything, but when I eat soy, after 3 days I start wheezing and I sound asthmatic, which I quite like because it makes me feel like a dainty and vulnerable person whereas in real life I am so robust (haha).--- Anyway, what's with those blueberry preserves? How'd ja end up with those? Are they okay? I am going to cheat by getting some lactose-free cottage cheese & yoghurt. Am craving something like that. Gradual is probably better, as with everything. Greetings
Betsy

Berlin, Germany

#14 Oct 3, 2012
Hi world, looks like nobody else is doing the SCD diet other than me .... that's okay, I'm about to bail out myself soon. I cannot see this doing anything for me, except that since I have been doing it about six or seven days I am probably over carbohydrates, etc. and could continue with something else. I find the things I can eat here slightly uncomfortable, even the two brekkie eggs and pasture butter give me heart burn, and I already described my stuck-together oesophagus. Last night I had fun stuff - tinsy cucumbers (which I love) and cocktail tomatoes, meat, red peppers, mustard and a splash of mayonnaise and I washed it down with 100% grape juice, which you are allowed on this diet and which tastes heavenly. Somehow I don't feel better or worse, I feel the same except slightly constipated, which gave me a killer headache. Also - I don't know if it is my imagination - I always feel like when I go low carb I get this hopeless low feeling, I think it is the lack of sugar, no highs. I was never successful losing weight on Atkins, so maybe this just is not it for me. Who knows. Will eat the food I stocked up on, maybe a miracle will happen.

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#15 Oct 3, 2012
Betsy,

It took about two weeks after I changed my diet to notice the positive effects, but I didn't just go with any of the normal diets that don't work.

For me, drinking fresh juices (that I make myself every morning) and eating mostly fruits and vegetables 90% of the time worked great, as it has for thousands of people around the world (thanks to the documentary Fat Sick & Nearly Dead). This documentary is available to watch on Netflix Instant Watch and for free at http://www.jointhereboot.com .

I'm not the only one who has discovered that this lifestyle diet change really does work to get healthier, reverse illnesses, and lose weight.

Good luck to you!
Maureen

Bradford, UK

#16 Oct 3, 2012
Hi All
Have bought the book but don't think I could follow the diet in total. A quick read through has put me off but will try and read again and hope for inspiration. Have had a minor flare last/ this week and felt too worn out to really focus. Glad J found the new thread
Mary

Lubbock, TX

#17 Oct 3, 2012
Hi Betsy, I agree the SCD is really tough. I saw my gastroenterologist Monday and he is now recommending avoiding high glycemic carbs, as he says they feed the bad bacteria, and dairy, as it and wheat are responsible for 80% of all food sensitivities. Maybe that would be easier?
Betsy

Berlin, Germany

#18 Oct 4, 2012
Yes, thank you Deb. Deb, I am glad that the juices make you and 90% of the rest of the world happy and healthy; they do absolutely nothing for me, been there, done that, thank you. In fact, decades ago when I was a child and my parents were on juice kick; made me gag. Thank your for your input, but when it comes to commenting my comments I do not require juice comments or threads; I am not interested. I never have liked fresh juice - have tried all kinds - and it does nothing for me. Kindly refrain from juice advice please; thank you.
Hi Maureen, that's sure lots of flares for you recently, isn't it. Sorry to hear it; it's so draining. What Mary's doctor is saying about the high glycemic carbs could be the ticket - it is talked about widely, as in the book "Wheat Belly". Who knows. I find anything restrictive difficult, and SCD is pretty restrictive. I wonder, Mary, if your doctor says high glycemic carbs if he means potatoes, too? I saw you and Georgia had an interesting discussion on that, baked potatoes versus boiled, etc. Somehow anything that forbids potatoes always seems questionable to me, because over the centuries so many people were able to survive famines and wars with potatoes, and yet, if I'm not mistaken, they are high on the glycemic index? Mistifying.

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#19 Oct 4, 2012
That's okay, Betsy, I don't expect everyone to be interested in drinking the healthier homemade juices. I just post the information for anyone who's interested and wants to get healthier and/or lose weight. So, please feel free to ignore my posts, if you wish.

I remember when my mom and her sister got into drinking barley juice for a short time (sometime in the last four decades). I tried it and also felt like I wanted to gag. Juices nowadays are much different, though, since higher-quality juicers are available everywhere now and all kinds of produce can be juiced at home, without all the additives and preservatives that processed juices contain.

I wouldn't even be interested in drinking juices, but filling the glass full of ice and drinking the juices with a straw makes the juices taste great. Lately, I've often thought about discontinuing juicing every day, but then I start craving the taste and so I continue. For me, it's been so worth it. I love never getting sick, feeling healthier than I've felt in many years, and being back to my normal weight.

But, ya know, it's not so much about the juices and raw foods (yea, they are much healthier than the other food choices because the digestive process is so much quicker), it's more about eliminating those foods that take a lot longer to digest and cause people to get sick and gain weight, such as, meats, breads, dairy, sugars, fast foods, and processed foods.

Speaking of potatoes, I love hash browns (shredded in my Cuisinart food processor) fried in a little olive oil and topped with ketchup. I have to be careful and not eat them very often, though, because I can tell they cause me to gain weight. I had lost a total of 16 lbs and have since gained back 5½ to 6 lbs, so I need to try to limit these kind of foods.

Do you use the nutritiondata.self.com site to get nutritional information? It seems to be the best nutritional info site.
Nat

Montréal, Canada

#20 Oct 4, 2012
Betsy wrote:
Hi world, looks like nobody else is doing the SCD diet other than me .... that's okay, I'm about to bail out myself soon. I cannot see this doing anything for me, except that since I have been doing it about six or seven days I am probably over carbohydrates, etc. and could continue with something else. I find the things I can eat here slightly uncomfortable, even the two brekkie eggs and pasture butter give me heart burn, and I already described my stuck-together oesophagus. Last night I had fun stuff - tinsy cucumbers (which I love) and cocktail tomatoes, meat, red peppers, mustard and a splash of mayonnaise and I washed it down with 100% grape juice, which you are allowed on this diet and which tastes heavenly. Somehow I don't feel better or worse, I feel the same except slightly constipated, which gave me a killer headache. Also - I don't know if it is my imagination - I always feel like when I go low carb I get this hopeless low feeling, I think it is the lack of sugar, no highs. I was never successful losing weight on Atkins, so maybe this just is not it for me. Who knows. Will eat the food I stocked up on, maybe a miracle will happen.
Mademoiselle Betsy, was that 100% grape juice fermented in any way????? was there an alcohol content :)
Mary

Lubbock, TX

#21 Oct 4, 2012
Betsy, I love potatoes and am not giving them up at this point. One disconcerting thing - where I live there are some large potato farms about 50 miles away. We overheard some of the growers once discussing how they would never feed their families the potatoes they grew because of all of the fungicide they used. I so hope that is not done in Europe! I still eat them, but I no longer eat the skin. I will say this though, I do seem to have a hard time digesting them. The doctor said that after about 6 months off of gluten, he thinks a lot of my food sensitivities will start to go away.

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