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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Derby, UK |
I have just started to take Vitabase Blood Sugar Formula to see if it will lower my sugar levels - does anyone else have experience of this?
Although I have only taken one tablet so far, the result look promising. I would be pleased to hear from others who have tried this or are thinking of doing so. |
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Milton Keynes, UK |
Just to say that I took the first tablet last night. My blood sugar went from 300 after lunch to down to 140 after my evening meal.
It had gone up to around 180 before I went to sleep and this morning it was down to 140 again - no dawn phenomenon! I am most impressed! |
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Birmingham, UK |
Well, that's another morning without the dawn phenomenon - the blood sugar was 50mg lower this morning than last night.
Is anyone out there? There must be others who are on it or are interested in trying it! I feel like a lone voice in the wilderness!!! |
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Birmingham, UK |
By the way - this is not an advert for Vitabase - I am merely assessing its benefits for myself. Like a lot of things, they often work for some but not for others. Obviously if it works, then that is a good advert in itself.
I am interested in seeing the reaction of others to it, good or bad, and to give any who are thinking of taking it, a good unbiased way of assessing it for themselves. |
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Joined: Jul 26, 2007 Comments: 319 Arroyo Grande ISP: Arroyo Grande, CA |
Hi AIIB! I found your new site and wanted to let you know that I've ordered Vitabase and am looking forward to trying it. Anything that helps will be good. I'm still on Byetta but in January will have to pay for it myself without help from insurance so if it doesn't get any better I'll stop then. Your experience with the first pill of Vitabase encouraged me. Mine probably won't get here for a week or so but I'll let you know as soon as it does. Thanks for the info! |
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Birmingham, UK |
Hi Rhonda - thanks for finding me!!! I am sure there must be other people out there who are or have used the Vitabase product but I can't get any response! At least if you are going to take it we can compare notes!
I have had awful acid reflux since stopping Byetta last Wednesday. Hardly slept a wink last night so I have been online for a couple of hours doing some research. I have taken Cider Vinegar and honey and eaten a couple of pickles which has helped a bit. I have some Aloe Vera in the fridge which I might try before I settle down for the night. I do not want a repeat of last night. I don't think it was stopping the Byetta that did it - it is probably just a co-incidence. I had a thing about tomatoes this week and was having cooked tomatoes on toast with grated cheese for breakfast nearly every day. I suspect that was probably contributory. Annoying though. Might even have been the cheese. I am not a lover and don't have it very often so went a bit overboard this week! Shan't do that again. I've eaten more carb this week than is good for me too, which has also added to it I am sure. It will be interesting to see how you get on with the Vitabase. |
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Joined: Jul 26, 2007 Comments: 319 Arroyo Grande ISP: Arroyo Grande, CA |
I'm sorry about your acid reflux, I know how terrible that can be especially when you're hoping to get a good nights sleep! You're right about the tomatoes they don't help, I'm a tomato lover and have suffered at times because of it. The trick with diabetes and other body functions seems to be not what I eat but how much I eat and I still tend to go overboard at times! I'm looking forward to getting the Vitabase, the Byetta is helping but I still have the dawn effect and get up to higher glucose levels.
Aloe Vera helps when I have acid reflux... |
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: UK |
I did some research on Acid Reflux and found a very interesting website - one of the suggestions was pickles and pickle juice, so I ate a couple of little cucumber (gherkins as we call them) and had a little of the juice and slept fine all night. I was planning to nip down and have some Aloe if I needed it but didn't need it in the end. I had forgotten about Aloe - I have some in my fridge - I wish I'd thought of it the other night when I couldn't sleep!
It seems to depend whether we produce too much acid or too little - if too little the food doesn't digest quickly enough (especially on Byetta!) and the resulting gas in the stomach forces the esophagus open letting the acid escape. This is my third day on Vitabase and each morning my sugar levels have been lower than the night before and still down around 140/150 or even lower which is low for me - I am very impressed so far. |
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Joined: Jul 26, 2007 Comments: 319 Arroyo Grande ISP: Arroyo Grande, CA |
Your levels are wonderful AIIB! I'm eager to get my Vitabase, I hope it doesn't take long. I haven't had much trouble with acid reflux as long as I keep my portions of food under control. If I eat too much then I'm miserable but will remember the pickles. I had stopped taking my Metformin but have started taking 1000mg twice a day and my levels are getting lower again. I'm waiting for the doctor to call and let me know if I'm over the bladder infection. I've taken 2 courses of antibiotics and they are very harsh on my system! Keep me in your thoughts....
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Buxton, UK |
Oh dear, poor you. Candida loves Antibiotics! Make sure you dose yourself up well with Vitamins and minerals , particularly the B vitamins. It might be a good idea to take a good probiotic too after you have finished the course to build up the good bacteria in opposition to the Candida.
I had taken just 2 Vitabase, rather than the 3 a day they suggest as that certainly had helped, but yesterday I took 3. This morning my sugar level was 133 when I awoke - by lunchtime it was 97! I am just gobsmacked! I am experimenting with cutting down the insulin a bit - this morning I had about 20 units, this evening I had 18 rather than the 22-24 I would normally have for each of the 2 doses. I am still taking 2x850 Metformin a day but I will probably experiment with dropping one or both of those off at some point to see if it makes a difference. When I to;d my doc about taking the Vitabase, he poo-pooed it, as docs usually do - "hasn't been tested", "no trials" etc., and all that guff. So what has the Medical professions' answer been? Byetta, which has not brought my blood sugar down and has just made me ill for most of the time I was taking it. Oooh, they make me so cross. "Those herbal tablets might harm you and make you ill - but it doesn't matter if our drugs do, as they have been tested and 'licenced'!" I hate drugs - they are often a necessary evil - but sometimes they are just plain evil! Anyway, the Vitabase is working well, and I certainly do not have the horrible side-effects that I had with Byetta. It may be good for some but it was bad for me. You win some, you lose some! By the way, our boiler was installed today and we are warm again - hooray!!! |
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I have taken Vitabase blood sugar formula for the past two years. While I have not seen 100 point drops like you are describing, I have seen about a 50 point drop. However, I was only around 200 when I started. It is great stuff and so cheap...
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Glossop, UK |
Hi Matt. Thanks very much for your input - it is good to hear from someone who has had long-term benefit from this product.
I was put on to Byetta for 3 months to see if that would work. The weight loss bit was great - I lost 21lbs, but it did not bring my blood sugar down and the side-effects were awful. The doc took me off and put me back on insulin but even though I also take Metformin, the blood sugar remained high, so I am chuffed to bits to have found Vitabase. Rhonda is still on the Byetta but it is not bringing her blood sugar down enough either, so she is going to try the Vitabase to see if that helps. My numbers have been floating for a long time between 200 and at least 300 so to be coming down to near 'normal' and even in to 'normal' range, is amazing for me. I have not had consistent readings anything like this before. I started this on Thursday afternoon. Since Friday not one of my readings has been over 10 mmol (180) and yesterday they were all under 8.4 (150). We are all different and react differently to different things! Have you noticed any specific side-effects or any problems since taking the Vitabase, Matt? |
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Glossop, UK |
Rhonda, as the Byetta is not bringing your blood sugar down and you don't need it for weight loss, do you think you might come off the Byetta if the Vitabase works for you?
I wish in many ways that I had discovered the Vitabase before the doctor put me on Byetta - i would not have had to go through all those weeks of the dreadful side-effects. Whether I would still have lost weight is debatable. Mind you, because the stomach was so bad it made me so weak that I had no energy to do very much. Perhaps if I had gone straight to the Vitabase I would not have had the stomach problems, I might have had more energy, and I might have lost some weight anyway. Who knows. I have gained a lb or 2 because I have gone back on to the insulin so I will have to watch that but I am hoping that with the Vitabase bringing the sugar down, and with having more energy, I will be able to reduce the insulin. |
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Joined: Jul 26, 2007 Comments: 319 Arroyo Grande ISP: Arroyo Grande, CA |
Yes AIIB, if my levels don't go down with Byetta I'll stop using it. It's hard to tell right now because of the bladder infection. I have to go to the urologist on thursday because I'm still not over it. The antibiotics made my glucose levels go up and as soon as I was through with them my levels came back down, so we'll see what the doc says. I agree with you that the doctors only like THEIR prescriptions and don't stop to consider what they do to us! If the Vitabase works, I'll stick to it. I'll do what you're doing and experiment with the metformin and hopefully be able to stop. I've been a diabetic for 15 years so I doubt if I can give up all of my medicine but we'll see. I hope the Vitabase gets here soon! |
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Joined: Jul 26, 2007 Comments: 319 Arroyo Grande ISP: Arroyo Grande, CA |
Welcome Matt! How many of the Vitabase do you take aday? I've ordered mine but haven't received them yet. I take 2 Byetta shots per day and 1000mg of Metformin twice aday. I've been a diabetic about 15 years and don't want to go back on insulin. Have you taken insulin before? |
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Leicester, UK |
You might find Rhonda, that like me, because you have been diabetic for several years, your body is not producing enough insulin for you to manage without it totally.
At least we may find that we can reduce the amount of insulin we have to take - even a little reduction has to be better than none. As I mentioned before, when I was on the Alkalising Diet I got my Blood sugar down to normal and cut the insulin in half so I know it is possible if I am very careful to eat the right things. I managed to do that, and lose around 15lbs in 3 weeks although on insulin. I just need to be very disciplined. |
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Joined: Jul 26, 2007 Comments: 319 Arroyo Grande ISP: Pismo Beach, CA |
I'm following the Alkalising diet again as you've suggested in the past. It's a good diet and with alot of discipline hopefully I'll begin to feel better. You're right about my body not always making enough insulin, the doctor has told me the same thing. I'm doing well with Byetta again but the diet is helping too. I've regained 6lbs while using insulin and taking the antibiotics and really do not want to get heavier again but following the alkalising diet will help the weight too. It just becomes a terrible circle of frustration at times doesn't it? I'm praying that I can build my body up again, this has been a really hard year and it started last Dec. when I had carpal tunnel surgery on my left wrist and it hasn't stopped yet. I'm very encouraged by your postings, thank you!
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Joined: Jul 26, 2007 Comments: 319 Arroyo Grande ISP: Pismo Beach, CA |
I received my vitabase Blood Sugar Formula in the mail yesterday and will start taking them today. The bottle says to take 1 pill 30 min before each meal, is that what you do AIIB?
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“Insulin; Metformin, Vitabase, ” Joined: Jun 24, 2007 Comments: 256 South Wales, UK ISP: Brighton, UK |
Hi Rhonda. Yes that is what I have been doing. I tend to take one with breakfast and one with dinner in the evening. On the Vitabase website I saw that someone takes 2 during the day and one before bed. I tend to just stick to the 2 although a couple of times I have taken one before bed if the blood sugar was a little elevated.
I have gone higher a few times - one when I forgot my insulin till lunch, another when I forgot the morning insulin completely, and Friday evening and yesterday it was a bit high as I managed to break a tooth on Friday evening - always has to be at the weekend when everything is shut! The back of one of my teeth has broken away but is still attached in the gum so is 'hinged'. I was pretty stressed about it which is what probably pushed the sugar up, as I was so annoyed. I had only been eating some lovely soft pitted prunes but managed to bite awkwardly on a tiny bit of stone that was left in one. Wish I could stick it back with some superglue! |
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The Vitabase blood sugar formula is incredible and the price is very good. I like the company a lot. I do wish they had more chromium in it. That is the one difference between it and Diamaxol.
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