Diabetes possible cure...Monavie

[Steve P]

Alwyn wrote:

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I have never seen Pilzer, Trump, Kiyosaki, Bach, or Buffet ever say a single word abot Monavie. Your other argument (i.e., that Monavie nust be good if the FDA hasn't shut them down yet) is a very weak one -- similar to something that the Enron execs, mortgage re-fi hustlers, and Madoff would have said before the Feds came crashing through the front door.
If you want to impress people about Monavie, spare us this nonsense and simply try to give a rationale (that doesn't involve BS about curing diabetes and cancer) as to why it's worth $45 a bottle

No, but Pilzer, Trump, Buffet, Bach and Kiyosaki all praise "network marketing" and the wellness industry...both of which MonaVie participates in and currently has set all records for!

And nobody pays $45 per bottle for MonaVie, get that through your thick skull! But I bet you pay $3 for a bottle of water when you go to a ball game, right? MonaVie distributors don't retail the product, they enroll new distributors to either drink the product or share the product and opportunity with others, paying anywhere from $20 to $32.50 per bottle! Ever see the junk they sell in the stores for $20-30 per bottle? I don't see you beating down their doors complaining about their high-priced water flavored with juice!

Get a life pal and quit trying to drag everyone down! You are just wasting your energy.

[Fast32]

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[Alwyn]

Steve P wrote:

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Now you're really reaching! Give it up.

How is it a reach to say that Monavie must contain added water to reconstitute the juice concentrates and acai powder into a drinkable liquid form. If it didn't contain added water, you wouldnt be able to drink it. Are you suggesting that the laws of physics don't apply inside a Monavie bottle?

[Alwyn]

Steve P wrote:

<quoted text>And nobody pays $45 per bottle for MonaVie, get that through your thick skull!

That's the retail price --$45!!! Who's being thickheaded?

[Steve P]

Alwyn wrote:

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How is it a reach to say that Monavie must contain added water to reconstitute the juice concentrates and acai powder into a drinkable liquid form. If it didn't contain added water, you wouldnt be able to drink it. Are you suggesting that the laws of physics don't apply inside a Monavie bottle?

It's a stretch to say that MonaVie LIES on their labeling, isn't it???? Isn't that a bit ridiculous? And the freeze dried acai powder is mixed with the JUICE from the other fruits and berries to create the drink. And yes it is thick but you can drink it!! What you're saying is that if I squeezed an orange that I couldn't drink the juice without mixing it with water??? Again, pretty ridiculous. The main ingredient, as listed on the label is Acai.

[Steve P]

Alwyn wrote:

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That's the retail price --$45!!! Who's being thickheaded?

You're correct, but nobody pays retail. Even drinkers are instructed to enroll as distibutors (for free) and pay wholesale. And if they do pay retail, apparently they see some value in the product because of what it's doing for their health, and that it's much easier to get the nutrition in a bottle than to buy all the crappy fruit at the store, prepare it and eat it before it goes bad. Do you know that studies show that because our soil is now so depleted of nutrients that you now have to eat over 50 peaches to get the same nutrition of 3 peaches 50 years ago? And why would anyone pay that much for MonaVie? Because they value their health! Do you give the ballpark a hard time when they charge you $8 for a beer? Probably not, right? And how many do you drink? It's all a matter of what people value, but I don't think you passed economics back in school and you have no idea how and why networks operate.

[Alwyn]

Steve P wrote:

<quoted text>It's a stretch to say that MonaVie LIES on their labeling, isn't it???? Isn't that a bit ridiculous?

No it’s not a stretch and it’s not ridiculous. Monavie contains added water and it is not listed on the ingredient label. Read the label – the ingredients consist of juice concentrates, acai powder and some fruit puree. If it didn’t contain added water it would be undrinkable.

Steve P wrote:

<quoted text>And the freeze dried acai powder is mixed with the JUICE from the other fruits and berries to create the drink.

Wrong!!! Read the label; in addition to acai powder it contains: 100% fruit juice from CONCENTRATE (white grape, apple, acerola, aronia, purple grape, cranberry, passion fruit, apricot, prune, kiwifruit, blueberry, wolfberry (goji), pomegranate, lychee, camu camu); fruit purée (pear, banana, bilberry); citric acid, sodium benzoate.

Steve P wrote:

<quoted text>What you're saying is that if I squeezed an orange that I couldn't drink the juice without mixing it with water??? Again, pretty ridiculous. The main ingredient, as listed on the label is Acai.

No, what I’m saying is that if you took a can of orange juice CONCENTRATE (analogous to Monavie’s juice concentrates) and didn’t mix it with water, it would be unpalatable thick syrup. The physics isn’t complex here at all. Try to use some commonsense.

[Alwyn]

Steve P wrote:

<quoted text>You're correct, but nobody pays retail. Even drinkers are instructed to enroll as distibutors (for free) and pay wholesale.

If there are no true retail customers than it’s not a legitimate business; it’s just a product-based pyramid scheme wherein distributors sell overpriced fruit juice to one another.

Steve P wrote:

<quoted text>And if they do pay retail, apparently they see some value in the product because of what it's doing for their health, and that it's much easier to get the nutrition in a bottle than to buy all the crappy fruit at the store, prepare it and eat it before it goes bad.

Crappy fruit??? If you are advising people to shun REAL fruit in favor of your horrendously overpriced preservative-laced pyramid-scheme placebo tonic, then you obviously don’t care about people’s health.

Steve P wrote:

<quoted text>Do you give the ballpark a hard time when they charge you $8 for a beer? Probably not, right?

No, I don’t. Are you offering me 9 innings of major league baseball with that $45 bottle of snake oil? No! Try selling 8 dollar Monavie shooters at a ballgame and you’ll get laughed out of the stadium.

[Tuvok]

Steve P wrote:

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There is no water in Monavie Original, Active or Pulse. The main ingredient is the Acai, read the label. All food and beverages are required to list the primary engredient first on the label. Nowhere do you find "water". I thought you knew everything???? Try again.

This goes to show you have not read the paper you are trying to shove down everone throat here,And you have no Glue about ownership rights to things,Monavie can not patent something they own..Once again they do not own the right to this process the company in south america does..GET THIS THREW YOUR HEAD....
The water involed all the test if you read the patent test involed with this paper..

[TerranceD]

just another pyramid scheme...

But this one is over the top...

Promising all these health benefits...

I smell a lawsuit from sick people that are given false hope on a cure.

Every mlm company offers a life of financial success, health and well being.

[Wisdom]

Dear Morons,

Condemnation without investigation is the peek of all ignorance. Little boys... Do you have any Idea what causes our illness within our bodies? If you do Not know then how can you know what is crap and what is not? I know why we get sick and its not because of germs children it is much simpler. When You can understand the cause then you will understand the solution. and when you understand the solution much of your life will change because your eyes will be open and your mouth will be closed. To whoever has posted anything stating monavie cures anything has done so against company wishes as they do not make these claims. As far an Im concerned the only true cure to anything is Knowledge. Monavie Drinker/Supporter

[Alwyn]

Wisdom wrote:

Dear Morons,
Condemnation without investigation is the peek of all ignorance. Little boys... Do you have any Idea what causes our illness within our bodies? If you do Not know then how can you know what is crap and what is not?

I know it when I hear it, and I know you're full of it!

[OMG]

http://www.mcall.com/news/all-a4_5dog0924.701... guess what it is all a scam and going to be shut down big shock

[Tuvok]

OMG wrote:

http://www.mcall.com/news/all- a4_5dog0924.7014178sep24,0,241 6475.column guess what it is all a scam and going to be shut down big shock

All I can say is Thank you for this fine post...

[Tuvok]

This is what (OMG) is refering to...
If you've spent any time online, you've surely been bombarded with ads promising products that magically melt away those extra pounds.

The only thing that will disappear with some products is your money.

Three companies that sell or promote acai berry supplements, one of the latest diet rages with supposed endorsements from the stars, are facing lawsuits from Illinois consumer protection authorities seeking to put them out of business.

Last month, the Illinois attorney general's office sued acai suppliers Advanced Wellness Research, also known as Netalab, and Crush LLC and its owner, TMP Nevada Inc. The lawsuits allege they offered consumers a free trial and then enrolled them in a difficult-to-cancel monthly sales program without clearly disclosing the terms.

''The acai berry supplement sales programs are among the most aggressive that we have seen using misleading sales tactics to scam consumers,'' Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan said in a news release Aug. 19.

While these companies aren't based in Pennsylvania, local consumers still are at risk and should be cautious because their reach extends here via the Internet.

For example, Advanced Wellness Research/Netalabs, which is based in Florida and has an office in Illinois, should sound familiar to loyal readers. I wrote about it in May when a local woman had a similar problem after she ordered a free trial of a teeth whitening product from the company.

The Illinois lawsuit against Advanced Wellness Research/Netalab regarding health supplement sales alleges it ''buried the terms and conditions at the very bottom of the Web page in small print or via a Web page link existing independent of the purchasing page.''

Customers provided credit or debit card numbers to pay for the shipping of their free trial, which in many cases cost them more than they imagined. That's because after a 14-day trial period, they were enrolled in the subscription program if they didn't cancel.

Canceling was a chore or even impossible, authorities allege.

Neither company delivered the free trial product ''within a reasonable time,'' giving consumers limited or no time to try the supplement, according to the lawsuits. In some cases, authorities allege, customers didn't even receive their free trial until more than 14 days after they ordered it, or never got it at all.

If you don't cancel in time, your credit or debit card is billed each month for a new supply of acai, ranging from $30 to $90.

Once you catch on, good luck stopping the recurring charges.

The companies failed to provide adequate means for customers to contact them, and ignored cancellation requests, according to the lawsuits.

Advanced Wellness Research/Netalab didn't return my calls. Neither did Crush/TMP Nevada, which is based in Utah and Nevada. The Illinois attorney general's office received 73 complaints against them, including one from Pennsylvania.

The office also sued a marketing

company, Amirouche & Norton of Arizona, that it accuses of misleading consumers through false advertising and false endorsements. I couldn't reach Amirouche & Norton.

All three companies are accused of implying that celebrities such as Oprah Winfrey endorsed the products, when they did not.

Illinois authorities want a judge to ban the companies from advertising or selling health care supplements online. They are seeking restitution for victims, and fines.

Pennsylvania consumers who have had problems with these companies can file a complaint with the Pennsylvania attorney general's office at http://www.attorneygeneral.gov or 800-441-2555.

You can find the lawsuits on my blog at http://blogs.mcall.com/watchdog/ .

[Sam]

Alwyn wrote:

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That's the retail price --$45!!! Who's being thickheaded?

Nobody pays 45.00 for a bottle more than once or twice. They either don't like it or they sign up & buy wholesale. Quit being stupid!!

[Cari Underwood]

JIz wrote:

Scott is ignorant. He says the product he pushes - a combination of 19 fruits - are all grown in Brazil: Untrue. How does he know the “main fruit” is the acai berry? Mona Via doesn’t disclose the % of acai fruit in the bottle to anyone. Scott, it should be “There HAVE been...” not has been.

Acai Berry is the first ingredient in the ingredient statement on the bottle. This means that the Acai Berry is present at a higher or equal percentage than any of the other ingredients. This is an FDA regulation. think before you talk.

[meeee]

actually MONAVIE has disclosed that acai is the main ingredient. about 1/3 of the bottle.

[Alwyn]

meeee wrote:

actually MONAVIE has disclosed that acai is the main ingredient. about 1/3 of the bottle.

No, that's not true. Check the Monavie website. The company has always maintained that they do not disclose the amount of acai in Monavie because it's a proprietary secret, which is a joke because the only people they are keeping this secret from are those who simply want to know what they are paying before they throw down $45 on a bottle of fruit juice.

Cari Underwood wrote:

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Acai Berry is the first ingredient in the ingredient statement on the bottle. This means that the Acai Berry is present at a higher or equal percentage than any of the other ingredients. This is an FDA regulation. think before you talk.

The issue here is not whether the FDA has labeling regulations but whether or not Monavie is complying with them. The distributors certainly aren't showing any respect for the FDA regulations that prohibit them from promoting the juice as a disease treatment, so why anyone put blindly believe that the product contains a substantial amount of acai if the company is unwilling to disclose the amount of acai in the juice.

Furthermore, pure “real” acai is loaded with anthocyanins. However, Monavie's published research, as well as the analysis conducted independently by Chromadex/Men's Journal, showed that the anthocyanin levels in Monavie are quite low. Obviously then, Monavie doesn't contain a very much acai.

Lastly, did you not notice the second and third ingredients listed on the label? White grape juice and apple juice concentrates. How about the fifth, sixth, eighth and ninth ingredients listed on the label? Purple grape, cranberry, apricot, and prune juice concentrates. Those are cheap commonplace ingredients!

Wake up to the facts and realize that the distributors are promoting this ridiculous, scandalously overpriced, nutrient-deficient, and overhyped blend of grape/apple juice concentrates as a miracle remedy for every conceivable medical condition from cancer to swine flu. It's shameful and disgusting.

[Tuvok]

$2.75 Billion MonaVie Lawsuit Details-
MonaVie apparently added small amounts of Celadrin to one of their products for a brief time in 2005, but never purchased further supplies of Celadrin, and never obtained the sub-licence to use the Celadrin trademark. Despite this, there exist over 10,000 webpages advertising MonaVie as containing Celadrin and promoting Celadrin's health benefits - including recent sites by TEAM affiliated former Quixtar IBOs, the major MonaVie training company, Black Diamond University, and even a document still available on MonaVie's own corporate website. According to the Imagentix There also exists video footage from February this year (2008) of MonaVie's top distributor, Black Diamond Brig Hart, explicitly describing Celadrin as an ingredient in MonaVie Active and touting Celadrin's health benefits.

Yep Monavie is a real up and up company..Your asking for the web page address for this? for more here it is..And also for the person saying people do not pay $45.00 a bottle for Monvie the person in our area that sells it here tells me it cost her $40.00 and she sell it for $50.00 and she only has limited people who buys it and she can not figure out why...I laughed at her as I walked away.. But any any here is the web page.
http://mlmblog.net/2008/05/275-billion-mon.ht...

Remember the saying (if you give someone enough rope and they will hang there selfs)? Well when people that sell this snake oil started saying it cured everything under the sun, They started down a path of no return...I feel the company and the people that sell this stuff will soon face a major class action law suit.