Depression without Sadness

Depression without Sadness

There are 20 comments on the Psychology Today story from Aug 10, 2013, titled Depression without Sadness. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

Depression is a seriously debilitating disease that increases your chances of early death.

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Georgetown, KY

#1 Aug 12, 2013
How do you know if you have depression?

“Da Imp”

Since: Aug 12

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#2 Aug 13, 2013

United States

#3 Aug 13, 2013
selenatlantis wrote: l/depression_signs_types_diagn osis_treatment.htm
A guide by the most corrupted professions on earth. The Mental health and pharmaceutical Industries.

United States

#4 Aug 13, 2013
The elderly are one of the most vulnerable age groups that fall prey to the Mental Health and pharmaceutical industry. Those that have aged love ones in a nursing home should make it known that they do not want their parent on mind drugs or anti depressants.

The Mental Health Industry has no science and is comprised of the Corrupted.

Canton, OH

#5 Aug 13, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
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A guide by the most corrupted professions on earth. The Mental health and pharmaceutical Industries.
Spoken like a true idiot....& someone with an untreated diagnosis.

United States

#6 Aug 13, 2013
Death rates from psychiatry are rising

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The exact figures are difficult to determine, but clearly death rates from the "American Psychiatric Industry of Enslavement, Torture and Death" are on the rise. As the nation fights hard daily to avoid a catastrophic depression the most professional leeches of society have turned out to be the psychiatrists who as usual claim just about anything, if not everything, that goes wrong in life for other people is due to psychiatric illness.
It is getting pathetic with psychiatrists now claiming over 50% of the nation is mentally ill. Failing businesses and personal finances based on parameters which are often out of control of individuals, particularly in such erratic economic conditions, as are the to be anticipated normal feelings of despair from such difficult conditions, are blamed on mental illness by the psychiatrists.
The same problem exists in dealing with psychiatrists in other walks of life such as school when variables that have nothing at all to do with psychiatric illness or lack of intelligence are nevertheless labeled as being due to mental illness by the psychiatrists when students and teachers together do not perform as well as they are capable of performing. Other real life factors which should be considered in such instances are poor nutrition, lack of adequate sleep and exercise, drug and alcohol abuse, cheating by some students which throws off normal grading curves, poor testing procedures and conditions, and other non-psychiatric factors.

And so today as usual millions of people across the United States are suffering in pain and dying from the horrible side effects of the poisonous arsenal of psychiatric drugs, beatings, and other abuses in the mental hospital concentration camps, unemployment, blacklists, poverty, isolation and homelessness associated with psychiatric stigmatization which is harshly enforced by the psychiatrists themselves. And all along most of the victims of psychiatry have been misdiagnosed with mental illness to begin with and could have lead independent, healthy and productive lives if not for the psychiatrists.
To make matters worse our lawmakers in all 50 states allow the psychiatrists and other non-psychiatric physicians they work alongside to legalize this tyranny daily with swift, fixed civil court proceedings with no juries and no sworn in testimony before crooked county judges the psychiatrists work closely with. The unethical judges who preside at these sham poceedings are getting a free ride in life by helping the psychiatrists implement their tyranny for huge profits.
As for those poor souls who may in fact be afflicted with some type of mental illness, they clearly are generally also not being diagnosed or treated properly and they too could have generally lead independent, healthy and productive lives with no psychiatric stigmatization with the right type of natural mental health care intervention. Sadly all of the abuses associated with psychiatric stigmatization are generally enforced not just by the psychiatrists, but also by the justice departments worldwide.
In many instances even perfectly sane people who admit guilt to crimes, which are often petty in nature, and would like to have been offered the opportunity to simply have settled properly with society and move on in life are nevertheless tormented, tortured and slowly murdered by the psychiatrists. In many other instances people are being crucified by the like-minded diabolically insane psychiatrists for nothing more than their sins in life.

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United States

#7 Aug 13, 2013
Psychiatric Diagnosis: Too Little Science, Too Many Conflicts of Interest [i]

Paula J. Caplan, Ph.D.

Harvard University


The Concerns

There is a lot of pain and suffering in the world, and it is tempting to believe that the mental health community knows how to help. It is widely believed, both by mental health professionals and the general population, that if only a person gets the right psychiatric diagnosis, the therapist will know what kind of measures will be the most helpful. Unfortunately, that is not usually the case, and getting a psychiatric diagnosis can often create more problems than it solves, including a lifetime of being labeled, difficulties with obtaining affordable (or any) health insurance (due to now having a pre-existing condition), loss of employment, loss of child custody, the overlooking of physical illnesses and injuries because of everything being attributed to psychological factors, and the loss of the right to make decisions about one’s medical and legal affairs. The creation and use of psychiatric diagnosis, unlike, for instance, psychiatric drugs, is not overseen by any regulatory body, and rarely does anyone raise the question of what role the assignment of a psychiatric label has played in creating problems for individuals.[ii]

The Problematic History

These serious limitations have not prevented the authors of the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), sometimes known as “the therapist’s Bible,” from making expansive claims about their knowledge and authority and wielding enormous power to decide who will and will not be called mentally ill and what the varieties of alleged mental illness will be. The DSM’s current edition is called DSM-IV-TR, and it was preceded by the original DSM (in 1952), then DSM-II (1968), DSM-III (1980), DSM-III-R (Third Edition Revised)(1987), DSM-IV (1994), and DSM-IV-TR (2000). The DSM-V is currently in preparation and slated for 2013 publication. Each time a new edition appears, the media ask whichever psychiatrist is the lead editor why a new edition was necessary, and like clockwork, each editor replies that it was because the previous edition really wasn’t scientific (Caplan, 1995). And each time a new edition appears, it contains many more categories than does the previous one. For instance, DSM-III-R contained 297 categories, and DSM-IV contained 374 (Caplan, 1995).

I served as an advisor to two of the DSM-IV committees, before resigning due to serious concerns after witnessing how fast and loose they play with the scientific research related to diagnosis (Caplan, 1995). The DSM is widely used, not only in the mental health system, but also in general medical practice, in schools, and in the courts. I have been involved since 1985 in trying to alert both therapists and the public to the manual’s unscientific nature and the dangers that believing in its objectivity poses. Since then, I have watched with interest a national trend toward gradually increasing openness to the idea that psychiatric diagnosis (A)is largely unscientific,(B)is highly subjective and political, and (C)can cause untold harm, ranging from the patients’ lowered self-confidence to loss of custody of children to loss of health insurance (because any psychiatric label can be considered evidence of a pre-existing condition) to loss of the right to make decisions about their medical and legal affairs.

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United States

#8 Aug 13, 2013
The harm suffered by many people because of a psychiatric diagnoses is a well kept secret

People — even many psychotherapists — often assume that psychiatric diagnosis is a science. The fact is, however, that very little solid science goes into the creation of categories of psychiatric diagnosis or the application of them to patients.

And when science is absent, every conceivable kind of bias can enter in to decisions about who is diagnosed as mentally ill and which label they are given.
The impetus for this website is the project of issuing a public call for Congressional hearings about psychiatric diagnosis.

Since psychiatric diagnosis is unregulated, since many people are harmed because of getting a diagnosis, and since the extent of harm needs to be documented and ways to minimize such harm need to be found and implemented, Congressional hearings are one of six important steps that can be taken to reduce the harm. Hearings would put psychiatric diagnosis in the public eye and on the national agenda.
The concerns about psychiatric diagnosis apply not only to those diagnostic labels found in any official diagnostic manual but also to other diagnoses, since the latter are constantly being invented and used.

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“Da Imp”

Since: Aug 12

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#10 Aug 13, 2013
hey, someone just asked for how would they know. I did not recommend going to anyone. But when you're depressed, these are common symptoms other than feeling sadness. Jeesh. Must every topic become a drama fest?

United States

#11 Aug 13, 2013
There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

APA lies to the American Public and puts the society in danger

No test for chemical imbalance. No medical model and no evident based medicine in psychiatry.

The fraud has been going on for more then 30 years since H W Bush was CEO, Eli Lilly and before in his VP under the Reagan Presidency when the essential Amino Acid "Tryptophan" was limited in the food chain and Prozac entered the market place. Lots of people compromised under the fraud of mental health services with made to order mental illnesses with mind altering drugs as the capitalist solution. The Republican ALEC solution.

There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical. No experiment has ever shown that anyone has an "imbalance" of any neurotransmitters or any other brain chemicals. Nor could any conceivable experiment demonstrate the existence of a "chemical imbalance," simply because no one, least of all the biopsychiatrists, has the slightest idea what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" would look like."

"...the views and beliefs of biopsychiatry have nothing to do with the answers to scientific questions in any case: the hunt for biological "causes" of "mental illness" is an entirely fallacious enterprise in the first place; the non- existence of data to support its assertions is quite beside the point."

"The latest edition of one pharmacology text has this to say about the status of depression as a disease: "Despite extensive efforts, attempts to document the metabolic changes in human subjects predicted by these [biological] hypotheses have not, on balance, provided consistent or compelling corroboration." This is a long-winded way of admitting that not even a scrap of evidence supports the idea that depression results from a "chemical imbalance." Yet patients are told every day - by their doctors, by the media, and by drug company advertising - that it is a proven scientific fact that depression has a known biochemical origin. It follows directly that millions of Americans are being lied to by their doctors; and people surely can't give informed consent for drug treatment when what they're being "informed" by is a fraud.... To sum up: there is no evidence whatsoever to support the view that "mental illness" is biochemical in origin; in other words, things like "Unipolar Disorder" and "Attention Deficit Disorder" simply do not exist."

United States

#12 Aug 13, 2013
Here is the agenda of the Mental Health in the take over of the Judiciary Branch of government (by state) on the problem the industry caused in the USA.(Drug America) This is a similar takeover to what happen in the Public School System.

Mental Health Court by State links

United States

#13 Aug 13, 2013
Depression has roots in the drugging of America like other foreign countries. ADD/ADHD then PTSD / Bi Polar disorder/ Personality disorders based on the mental health and there are 101 other "made to order" diseases for the profession with no science.. Today everyone has Depression and the drugs create the underground water for bathing and drinking to be polluted and creating another victim.

The Mental Health is of no value to the USA and have by their lies bilked the government for disability.
#15 Sep 23, 2013
I have ordered 2 times from this website PILLSMEDSHOP. COM . I called yesterday the customer care and asked for a discount as i was about to order twice the regular amount.

“Da Imp”

Since: Aug 12

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#16 Sep 23, 2013
Vitamins ..... with the way food is processed these days, vitamins are reduced to the point of ill health. Try upping B-Complex to see if it helps with the depression problem.
Bozo the clown

Bowling Green, KY

#17 Sep 24, 2013
This list is depressing me. You need to get a life.
Psychotropic Kohen LOL

Louisville, KY

#18 Sep 24, 2013
Exercise and take ALL your vitamins daily!! I had depression at one time but it was mostly because of choices I made and mean spirited people in my life. Once I got "them" out of my life and focus on my recovery I didn't need big pharma and the head-shrinks!! I do sometimes like to play with the sheep(the superior race=normal ones) once in awhile(lol). When your "special(skitzo)" like me, it's to much fun not too(lol).
Psychotropic Kohen LOL

Louisville, KY

#19 Sep 24, 2013
I believe JESUS IS IN MY PANTS, I Am a martian I was sent here to rewrite the dsm
Psychotropic Kohen LOL

Louisville, KY

#20 Sep 24, 2013
Psychotropic Kohen LOL

Louisville, KY

#21 Sep 24, 2013


#22 Jan 30, 2014
I've been on Effexor from only one week but am cautiously very optimistic. Prior to this I was on citalopram but still feeling very low and sleeping poorly, feeling like I needed to be in bed 12-16 hours a day. Now I am waking naturally after only 8 hours sleep and finding it much easier to concentrate at work. I can hardly believe it is working so quickly but I feel so much better. I've had no side effects.

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