Depression study finds shame at root ...

Depression study finds shame at root of issue

There are 5 comments on the The Daily Bruin story from Oct 3, 2007, titled Depression study finds shame at root of issue. In it, The Daily Bruin reports that:

“I refer to the two different responses to shame as - silenceA -violence.'”

When World War II veterans suffering from depression were asked one simple question, their symptoms of depression immediately lifted. via The Daily Bruin

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ConsiderThis

United States

#1 Oct 3, 2007
Wow, that's really interesting.

I read an article a long time ago about how if you have someone to listen to you, it's just about as healing as going to a therapist.

That may be because the same things can be released.

Big Sigh.

I worry about people who are depressed because I had soooo much stress for decades and eventually I had a lot of symptoms of low B12, but what nearly killed me was the depression.(Because I attempted to kill myself.)

I wish doctors told people that if they are feeling depressed, it could be a vitamin B12 deficiency.

The vitamin is so cheap, that's probably why doctors prefer to prescribe antidepressants.

I was prescribed Serafem, a Prozac look alike but marketed to women, which was $87 a month.

It gave me double incontinence.(Not immediately. At first it was a real high.)

The B12 that has actually healed me was less than $6 for 30 shots.(That's when I bought it at Wal*Mart.)

If you have depression, and if you have ridges on your fingernails, look at a good list of B12 symptoms and if it's a match for you, get the Methylcobalamin lozenges because that's the form that works the best.

http://www.health-boundaries-bite.com/Fingern...
Your fingernails reflect your health --
Learn some warning signs --
Karen Kline
Guilty as Charged

Commerce, GA

#2 Oct 14, 2007
Karen,

I LOVE YOU!

Thank you for posting this article. That is an exact reflection of myself. It all stems from serving in the US Army. I have beaten myself into a depressive state because of a very foolish mistake that ended my career. For some reason, mentaly, I am unconsciously forcing myself to live in shame and regret. I am unable to get passed it. Even though I have paid for what I did, I feel like I am serving a life sentance in my own mind. Family and friends know what I did and I think that makes it worse. Even though it is almost 10 years in the past, I feel the shame as fresh as the day it happened..and I feel that others look at me with shame..even though I know they are over it.
I had just made Sergeant...a personal goal for myself..and to make my Dad proud. A "friend" of mine asked me to help him load a tool box in the bed of his truck from one of the buildings on base. Stupid me...I did...and also helped myself to a laptop that was nearby. Little did I know he had talked with 2 other people about his plan...(I was unaware of this fact)and when CID came sniffing around one of the 2 sang like a song bird on both of us. I was courts martialed and served 9 months in the brig...reduced to private and forfeited all benefits and privilages that comes with being a veteran. I know what I did was wrong and I should never agreed to help him. For a while I blamed him..but now I know its my own fault. And the thing that beats all...as we sat there in his truck that night waiting to go in the building to get the toolbox..I had a premonition that it would end badly and I would wind up in jail...and for a split second I started to tell him to call it off and lets go home...but I didn't. I had done similar things like this in my teenage years...I guess fate finally caught up to me and taught me a lesson. And learned I have...I've not so much as lifted a pack of gum from a store. And just when I think I have a grip on it...I get a catalog from the Army PX. Guess thats fate sticking the knife in a little deeper whispering "remember what sent your life into a downward spiral"?
Maybe it would help for me to talk to an umbiased side and just lay it all out on the table...but I kinda feel this guilt will only die when I do.
ConsiderThis

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Oct 16, 2007
Guilty as Charged wrote:
Karen,
I LOVE YOU!
Thank you for posting this article. That is an exact reflection of myself. It all stems from serving in the US Army. I have beaten myself into a depressive state because of a very foolish mistake that ended my career. For some reason, mentaly, I am unconsciously forcing myself to live in shame and regret. I am unable to get passed it. Even though I have paid for what I did, I feel like I am serving a life sentance in my own mind. Family and friends know what I did and I think that makes it worse. Even though it is almost 10 years in the past, I feel the shame as fresh as the day it happened..and I feel that others look at me with shame..even though I know they are over it.
I've been battling some things here, and haven't been back to the forums.
It was nice to see your greeting!
((((((Guilty)))))))
You know what, I don't know why you did it, but to me it's hardly that important.
A developer here in Santa Fe sold me a condo he built over a privy pit and it's damaged my nerves... long story, and I had to excavate the pit at a quarter the original price of the building.
And the developer isn't bothered.
But I had my water turned off last week, which I guess is only a torture technique if used against an enemy...
So to me... I just don't see what you did as that bad, except that it hurt your career.
I'm wondering why you wanted the laptop...
And also, did you see the news story a few weeks ago about the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of heavy duty scientific instruments that were stolen from the CDC and auctioned on eBay?
What I mean is that there are so many people doing so many things that are so much worse. You could have a great career even now, You write very clearly, you spell well, you obviously have a high sense of morality.
Just forgive yourself. Seriously, forgive yourself. You made a mistake. Maybe the military made a mistake losing you. Look at the billions that went missing in Iraq. Did one of the people that pocketed some of that get kept, when the military tossed you in the brig?
I'm really sorry you feel so bad.
There are lots of different books of positive thoughts... get one of them and read it to yourself till you begin to see how great you really are.
It's great that you feel the way you do. But like the best desserts and ice cream... it's possible to have too much of a good thing.
If you forgive yourself, you'll forget about it.
That will be great.
Have the wonderful life you deserve.:)
Derek
#4 Sep 25, 2013
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Sula

UK

#5 Jan 30, 2014
I've been on Effexor from http://goo.gl/3FuqC7 only one week but am cautiously very optimistic. Prior to this I was on citalopram but still feeling very low and sleeping poorly, feeling like I needed to be in bed 12-16 hours a day. Now I am waking naturally after only 8 hours sleep and finding it much easier to concentrate at work. I can hardly believe it is working so quickly but I feel so much better. I've had no side effects.

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