Tammy- Milton VT

Ripton, VT

#31 Jul 21, 2006
WHITEHORSE - Cape Town wrote:
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HI jO
I CLICKED ON THE LINK BUT IT WOULDN'T OPEN.
THESE THINGS CAN BE SO FRUSTRATING!!
WILL TRAY AGAIN LATER.
HOPE YOU'RE WELL.
SPEAK TOMORROW.
Y
Same here. Tried this one and the one below. I am also a Blogger user so I shouldn't have had a problem with either of these, but I did.
Tammy- Milton VT

Ripton, VT

#32 Jul 21, 2006
Markie wrote:
Read the story in the Bible(KJV) in 1 Kings 19 about Elija and his Depression and what God told him to do to cure it.
This is some advice from this passage and how to truely cure depression(you don't need any medication or psyciatrist):
(verse 11) "Go forth" (verse 15) "Go" God told him to "Go" because:
1) he was isolating himself from everyone (Dont do that, try to get around as MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN! Don't shut yourself away from everybody! Do the exact opposite!)
2) because he wasn't doing anything (GO AND FIND SOMETHING TO DO AND TRY TO STAY BUSY! GO GO GO!)
Lol that is the cure, God's cure, and it works.
Easier said then done. Although, you may have had depression and it may have worked for you, it will not help all people just as one drug will not help all people. That is why there are so many different kinds. There are alos many different kinds of religion so some people may not read the Christian/Catholic Bible.
I have depression/anxiety, ocd and other mental & physical conditions. If I go where there are alot of people my symptoms rise dramatically. I now take Cymbalta which also helps pain as well as the depression/anxiety. I had tried many others and this one seems to be helping the best. I now can go to the grocery store without feeling to bad. It is still scary, but I must do it if I ever want to live a half way decent/normal life again and not rely solely on the drug. But, it takes time, patience, courage, etc. and for some people...medicine.
James

Bournemouth, UK

#33 Jul 24, 2006
by the way you selfish stupid ignorant little bugger the bible is something you can look to for some for of consolation but if you turn to science all you find is death destruction and AIDS so shut your bloody mouth whining on about the relyability also science has not yet proved god DOSN'T exist so next time you wallow in you own self pity try and at least bother yourself to either shut up or maybe read it for whatever advice and try and apply it to you also yes there are some wrong things such as "put yourself among many people" if i did that i would be beaten to a pulp and thats the reason why im depressed COS EVERY FUCKING BASTARD WHERE I LIVE WANTS TO RIP MY GUTS OUT AND SERVE THEM BETWEEN 2 BITS OF BREAD FOR 1.99
linda

UK

#34 Aug 2, 2006
hi i am new 2 this. what do i do
linda

UK

#35 Aug 2, 2006
i have major depression, my husband died last year. i was a carer for him. he was 50 . i am 44, i miss him so much. my head has gone, i self harm
linda

UK

#36 Aug 2, 2006
i want to kill myself all the time to be with him someone please help me, the tablets dont work

“:)”

Since: May 06

Houston

#37 Aug 3, 2006
Markie wrote:
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Lol, last year I was soo depressed, I would cry myself to sleep everyday and also cry alot at school for months, what I would do is lock my self in my room and cry the rest of the day whenever I got home, I didn't eat, or anything, I just got home and cryed until I fell asleep
I just like that you put 'LOL' before a sentence explaining the 'depression' episode you went through.
Peacegirl

AOL

#38 Aug 4, 2006
MJP wrote:
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God? Do you really think God gives a shit if you're depressed or not? Do you really think that, while he goes around burning and fuming and storming and disease-spreading, that he really cares that your self-esteem is so low you feel like slitting those big, beautiful arteries and just ending it all? And surrounding yourself with people? What if they're all unimaginative, Creativity-challenged, stupid, ignorant, unfunny assholes? I'd rather take my chances with Coyotes than those cocksuckers. People blatantly suck. If God really wants us to get up off our butts and do "something", than why not just mastuerbate until the end of days? that'd be something and it would feel good too.
~~~~~~~~~~MJP~~~~~~~~~~
P.s. You're relying on the bible? A peice of literature that has been retold, reread and rewritten for thousands and thousands of years by MEN?
God doesn't have to be thought of in a literal sense. Why can't we think of God as a force, a higher power, that governs who we are and what we do. This is just my opinion, everyone is entitled to their own ideas. In my opinion, God isn't telling us to do anything at all; just to be who He created us to be, which is good enough in His eyes; it's everyone else's eyes that are blind. If we can be who we are meant to be, we wouldn't be so angry. Doesnt that make sense? It's when we don't feel like who we are is not good enough that we become depressed and let others take advantage of our good nature.
whitebutterfly

South Africa

#39 Aug 13, 2006
Peacegirl wrote:
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God doesn't have to be thought of in a literal sense. Why can't we think of God as a force, a higher power, that governs who we are and what we do. This is just my opinion, everyone is entitled to their own ideas. In my opinion, God isn't telling us to do anything at all; just to be who He created us to be, which is good enough in His eyes; it's everyone else's eyes that are blind. If we can be who we are meant to be, we wouldn't be so angry. Doesnt that make sense? It's when we don't feel like who we are is not good enough that we become depressed and let others take advantage of our good nature.
very good answer!!!

our problem is that we have created 'god' in the 'image of man' and that is what confuses many - eg. how can 'he' be so cruel/loving/whateva.
'God' is not necessarily a 'person', a 'him'.
OMG143

Chesterfield, MO

#40 Aug 15, 2006
linda wrote:
i want to kill myself all the time to be with him someone please help me, the tablets dont work
You need to seek help if you feel like you want to take your own life! It is hard to lose someone you love and have cared for I know believe me. If you believe in God just pray that he will help you everytime you feel the urge to kill yourself as God to protect you and keep you safe it works it worked for me!!
OMG143

Chesterfield, MO

#41 Aug 15, 2006
TALLWHITEHORSE - CT wrote:
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very good answer!!!
our problem is that we have created 'god' in the 'image of man' and that is what confuses many - eg. how can 'he' be so cruel/loving/whateva.
'God' is not necessarily a 'person', a 'him'.
Hmmmm, makes you think
OMG143

Chesterfield, MO

#42 Aug 15, 2006
Ok on this depression topic what happens when someone is so depressed that they just shut down and have no motivation and are not speaking to anyone. How can you help someone who shuts you out?
whitebutterfly

South Africa

#43 Aug 15, 2006
OMG143 wrote:
Ok on this depression topic what happens when someone is so depressed that they just shut down and have no motivation and are not speaking to anyone. How can you help someone who shuts you out?
very very difficult -
one has to try a distraction that works - something that slowly builds up the person's desire to want to engage in life - in all its sometimes hidden glory.

Not so easy these days with the way the world has become so fearful - of everything, even oneself.
no one

Mesa, AZ

#44 Aug 25, 2006
MJP wrote:
I honestly think that is a wonderful Idea. I was feeling really angry and alone that day and I know I have to cut my swearing down some. I really didn't say god was a man. I didn't. I said that the bible wasn't written by god. It was written by a group of ancients a long time ago that said that it was the word of god so that people would adopt it as the real thing. It spreads wonderful lessons about life and loving thy neighbor and living a healthy, beautiful life. so who really cares if it's not the actual word of god? It is an important book. or maybe it is the actual word of god and Mankind (being the way we are) put our own twist on it so maybe the word of god is a little distorted. In any case, I am depressed and bulimic and I will say what I want, when I want, how I want because such things are protected by the constitution. My little rant was to let off some steam. Please allow me to vent and to not pass judgement. thank you.~~~~~~~~~MJP~~~~~~~~~~
Your not alone MPJ, I completely agree with you.
whitebutterfly

South Africa

#45 Aug 29, 2006
MJP wrote:
I honestly think that is a wonderful Idea. I was feeling really angry and alone that day and I know I have to cut my swearing down some. I really didn't say god was a man. I didn't. I said that the bible wasn't written by god. It was written by a group of ancients a long time ago that said that it was the word of god so that people would adopt it as the real thing. It spreads wonderful lessons about life and loving thy neighbor and living a healthy, beautiful life. so who really cares if it's not the actual word of god? It is an important book. or maybe it is the actual word of god and Mankind (being the way we are) put our own twist on it so maybe the word of god is a little distorted. In any case, I am depressed and bulimic and I will say what I want, when I want, how I want because such things are protected by the constitution. My little rant was to let off some steam. Please allow me to vent and to not pass judgement. thank you.~~~~~~~~~MJP~~~~~~~~~~
Your not alone MPJ, I completely agree with you.

WELL SAID, BOTH OF YOU.

THE MESSAGE IS IMPORTANT:

LOVE THY 'NEIGHBOUR'[I.E. ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING] AS THYSELF.

AND TREAT ONESELF THE SAME!
linda

UK

#46 Sep 1, 2006
thanks for your comments i dont know how to get my repies. can anyone help me. tonight. i am still cutting myself. i dont know wether i believe in god or not! he never saved my husband from dying, when he went in hospital for sever back pain and died that night, and if i believe in him why dose he not bring him back to me and make me better.
Servant

Clifton Heights, PA

#47 Sep 2, 2006
Markie wrote:
Elijah*
Thanks for your post. Unfortunately, the individual who replied to your advice is depressed. For those of you who have sought worldly council, what do you have to loose? besides, scientific laws (for example) can't be proved. They can only be accepted or rejected based on generalizations that describe what we obserb. If we collect enough evidence, we will notice patterns or regularities in the evidence. What I'm trying to impart to the person who has come to the end of their self is; "Science" is the study of the natural world. We are spiritual beings.

For the depressed individual, there are several causes for depression. Some of these causes are: Medical, Psychiatric and Emotional. Lucy, do you hold the necessary credentials to diagnose this case? Also, do you understand which of these underlying conditions relate to each area of an individuals life? I think not. Respected members of the medical community “NEVER” discount the power of ones faith. Please refer to your medical journal regarding specific cases.
In the meantime, I’ll “Pray” for you.
whitebutterfly

South Africa

#48 Sep 2, 2006
linda wrote:
thanks for your comments i dont know how to get my repies. can anyone help me. tonight. i am still cutting myself. i dont know wether i believe in god or not! he never saved my husband from dying, when he went in hospital for sever back pain and died that night, and if i believe in him why dose he not bring him back to me and make me better.
you know, i don't think it matters whether you believe there is a god or not. i lost my mother at five and it could have been god's will or not. doesn't change the pain and loss. Many are truly assisted by simply unconditionally accepting god's love, which is the best that anyone can describe 'him' as. in my mind, he is not a biological father to jesus.

The other commentator said we are [heavenly]'spiritual' beings.
Yes we are...but we are also in a biological earthly vehicle, our bodies, subject to the same 'laws' of the universe [which science simply studies but does not conjecture]- the microcosm of the macrocosm, which Jesus used simple analogy to try and explain, since his live audience was mostly poor and uneducated.[Jesus had been educated within the Essence Society - and if you study their writings, you can see where 'he came from'.
If you say God is spiritual, then his fatherly 'body' is the physical universe itself. Perfect, like 'him'.

...you are traumatised by a very real earthy cause for your pain. and probably a lot of converging reasons....which exascerbate your 'symptoms', and following behaviour - whatever that 'relief' is.
you need some committed earthly assistance to help you find emotional, spiritual, mental and physical comfort.

It's called the 'warm and fuzzies'.
Look for the lovely people out there who will help you to learn to feel good again.

warm wishes
Yvonne
~:)

while some people need the strong drugs, they often simply add to the confusion - on all levels - for some of us.
whitebutterfly

South Africa

#49 Sep 2, 2006
linda, i don't know what u mean by 'getting your repies'.
whitebutterfly

South Africa

#50 Sep 2, 2006
and Linda, I am so sad to hear about you losing your husband....that must truly be such an 'abandoning' kind of feeling....amongst all the other feelings.

very little can ease your pain and loss - except to know that slowly in time the pain will lessen....and hopefully the gap filled by another love.

:)

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