#21 Jan 11, 2009
#22 Jul 8, 2010
No offense meant toward any of the Christians here, but I have lived with very severe clinical depression since my late teens at least (am 44 now). I have tried the drugs, shrinks and nothing works. I broke down and prayed with all my heart and being to God to help me. Nothing. I found pastors and ministers and asked them to help me by praying which the very kindly did. Still nothing. My question is simple, why did God help you and not me? Why is He so selective in his grace? Honest question.
#23 Jul 11, 2010
Well, I was an abused child.
My dad was not a Christian, neither were the ones who hurt me and my mom.
My mom was a Christian.
There's good and evil both in people who claim to be Christians.
My abuse has continued to torture me and I'm 44 now too.
But, the people who hurt me are dead now ?
I did forgive them. I can't forget, how could I ?
I am just moving past all this now. I have to.
I've been in therapy, been on meds. Waste.
I am finding my peace with God and God only.
I'm sick. I've been sick for years. I'm finding healing with God also.
I am a Christian. I'm still sinning, not on purpose. Habit. Bad habits.
But, I am working at it.
I am being healed.
I can't explain all of this or my life here on a page.
I love reading "Stranger in Land's" and "Constance's" posts. They are true.
They know things I don't. Stuff I WANT to know. So I read. I listen. I look for myself.
Yes, I know in my heart God will heal me.
I have no doubt in my faith and no doubt in Him.
#24 Jul 12, 2010
7/12 - Today.
Some might not agree with all this man teaches, but todays message on depression is a good one.
It's a half our long, you can also buy it.
I recorded it onto my tape recorder.
It's worth a listen.
#25 Jul 13, 2010
@cody: I am glad that you are finding peace and healing. I would like to have healing and peace myself. But the question still remains, why does God (at least seemingly) turn a deaf ear to my suffering. Not just my prayers, but the ministers and pastors who so kindly pray for me? This is a question I ask in all sincerity.
#26 Jul 14, 2010
Curious, you asked this question of "Cody", but I happened to see it. Just adding what I believe and have experienced here for your discernment. OK? Thanks:)
Dear heart, it's not quite as simple as praying or having someone to pray for you, and then like "magic", healing might occur.
God said through his holy Word, the Bible, "My people perish for lack of knowledge". So...learning about God, the ways of God, including the path to healing takes study....much study and a SERIOUS pursuit of God.
While it's true that healing and deliverance CAN occur instantly and/or quite easily because God is Sovereign and can do as He Divinely chooses......, but for the Christian believer, I think if healing seems to be delayed, or unanswered it's because God expects his people to come to experience him...and healing via knowledge and PRACTICE of the principles in the Bible.
Jesus WAS the Son of God, this is true. His healings never failed except where there was unbelief.
Jesus passed on knowledge of healing and the power to heal and to receive healing through teaching them and through His Word.
I was healed from very black serious depression and suicidal panic attacks by Jesus.
He will not deny healing to anyone, but he does expect certain things of people. This is not wrong on his part. He's a loving and merciful God, but he is still a God of law as well as grace and mercy. What he requires of us is all in His Word. Therefore, the answer is to study, and get to know his ways through much prayer and the serious study of his Word. By this, you will build up OVERCOMING FAITH to be healed! You see, there is FAITH, but there is a higher level of faith, and that is OVERCOMING FAITH.
This forum is obviously limited in what you can learn about a very serious painful problem in your live, but this may point you in the right direction.
I suggest you may not only need healing but deliverance as well. I needed and received both. There were spirits of infirmity attacking and tormenting me. Yes, this is real, but Christians nowadays don't like to talk about, or believe their real, or even less they might actually have them.
Again, with prayer, repentance and much study, you should receive healing and deliverance.
God bless you,
#27 Jul 15, 2010
Well, I agree with Constance.
Did you listen to the sermon I posted above ?
It explains some too.
Find a healing church. Look at a few if you have to.
Talk to the pastors. Find a pastor that you're comfortable with.
One you like and trust, who can help you in the healing process and pray with and for you. Start there. That's what I did.
#28 Jul 15, 2010
@Constance: Thank you for your very well written and sincere response. I suppose perhaps I have been expecting to much (in that I was hoping for a "quick" response and healing). I do appreciate your post!
@cody: I think you hit on a subject that has been amiss in my experience. You mentioned a "healing church", and that may be key to what is missing. I have yet to be able to locate one near me. This is not to say that the churches here are bad, but rather I have not been made to feel very welcome at all, but this town has a tendency and reputation for being "click-ish" and if you are in one of those "clicks" you are nobody around here. I guess I will have to widen my search for a church that makes me feel welcome.
Thank you both!
#29 Jul 16, 2010
I wish you well as did John the Beloved. I believe this was from 3 John 1st Ch:
"2Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper and be in good health, just as your soul prospers."
You see.....it seems to be a given, according to the Word of God, that you will prosper in all respects as far as your needs go, and your health will improve AS YOUR SOUL PROSPERS.
That includes mental health. Jesus suffered scourging, for all our health and mental,(emotional) issues as well as for our sins.
You can hear from God yourself. You can. You don't have to wait for someone to help you.
Reach out to Jesus. God is a rewarder of those who DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM.
He is the LORD WHO HEALS, Jehovah Rophe. That's what that means.
#30 Sep 19, 2010
Y are damn lucky if God heals you.
I am a devoted Chrisitian, but GOD is not answering my prayer.
I am suffering with horrifying insomnia and depression.
Miracles happen rarely, but dont boast your healing to others.
#31 Sep 19, 2010
Christian, I am so sorry your prayer for healing hasn't manifested yet. I know what it was like for me to have gone through that before I became a Christian. It was horrifying, yes, and very painful. I had wanted to commit suicide it was so bad.
But even though I didn't believe in Jesus at the time, he was merciful enough to heal and deliver me. I then realized I'd had a true miracle, and I suppose I learned to love him first because of his compassion toward me, an wretched and unhappy sinner.
I can understand your frustration and pain when you feel the LORD is not answering your prayers. I have no idea what the reason might be, but I do know this, God loves you and is not witholding healing just to be cruel to you. He's no respecter of persons,and doesn't play favorites.
Responding to your comment, why shouldn't a Christian tell others that Jesus healed them in order to give them hope and encouragement that they too can be healed? We are to lift up and glorify God in all circumstances, even in sickness, just like Job did in his trial of faith.
I will pray that you don't give up your faith in Jesus, no matter what, and that you will go deeper in prayer and in God's Word and develop an even deeper communion with him.
One thing I know, the Word of God is so deep, and there are so many layers and levels in it. There are no substitutes for the miraculous Word of God to build faith and bring about sanctification as we grow in our walk with Jesus.
There is a thread I started on this forum entitled "God's Word is Medicine" and it's true. There's something about it that brings healing when "taken as prescribed", which is daily. It may be such a process for you.
God bless you,
#32 Sep 19, 2010
PS: I looked at this woman Donna Kay's website who started this thread, and some of the other info on her I found online, and ya know what? There wasn't one word on all that hype about Jesus and HIM being the healer. And she never said she was a Christian or talked about Christ as far as I could see.
It was all about her self-help promotion and at a price. You know what Jesus said about, "Freely you have received, freely give"?? He also talked about false workers "making merchandise of you", meaning they charge...even though some of them call it a "love gift", donation, or "partnering with them" nowadays. They still want money!
There have always been these kinds of people around, and they are very good at what they do. This woman is pretty, sings beautifully, but all that doesn't mean a hill of beans if Jesus isn't exalted and put first. Anything else is idolatry.
Bottomline, you will have to form your own opinion, but I hope you won't be decieved. This "life coach" hype is something that started up with another bogus televangelist not long ago, Paula White, so I guess it may be a copy cat thing.
In any case, with this woman, Donna Kay, I wouldn't pay her a dime, or believe she has anything to offer in the way of healing from depression or spiritual help. It seems to be all about her, and not Jesus. Not a good sign :(
#33 Sep 20, 2010
I'm sorry to hear that.
I really am.
I too am a Christian. I've been soooooo down so many times.
Then I'm up again.
I do believe God heals. I know he does. There are good books on healing out there ?? Good churches too ?
But, he also gave us medicines to help ?
Have you tried anything ??
I went back on Elevil. I feel so much better. But, not all of them work either.:(
Yes, this forum seems to be a boasting forum now.
Anti-med forum. Well, that's one point of view.
I need God, I needed to go back on my Elevil.
Can I ask what you've tried ?
I promise, I won't judge you.
I hope you come back ??
#34 Sep 20, 2010
Texas has a great church......I'll find the name.
They're on tv once a week. A very healing church.
If it's too far ?? They could tell you where to go.
Oh, The Glory Church, that's it.
Joyce Meyer has some really good Bible based books also.
I recently re-read Battlefield of the mind. Needed to.
Good book. Hang in there.
Since: Jun 07
#35 Sep 20, 2010
I do know how you feel.
If you ever want to talk, PM me.
I am feeling better, not a boast, and would talk to you if you wanted.
Since: Jun 07
#36 Sep 21, 2010
To Constance -
Who's crazy ?
This person wants you to stop !
I'm not looking for more.
You're a waste of my time.....
#37 Sep 21, 2010
This poster didn't say for me to stop.
He claimed it was "boasting". It wasn't.
I was not bragging on anyone but JESUS. And you know that very well.
You're the one who wants me to stop.
Who was boasting anyway? Not me. I didn't heal myself. Jesus did.
I will never stop boasting about Jesus, and praising him and giving him all the glory for healing and delivering me from depression.
Not for you or anyone else.
Jesus gets and deserves ALL the glory.
Why would you look for more of my posts anyway with which to try to stop me from praising Jesus for my healing? That's very strange.
#38 Sep 21, 2010
Ya, everyone on this forum wants to hear about your version of God.
You're not healed. Not by a long shot.
I have all the e-mails.
God has not yet healed you.
The Bible according to Constance.
Welcome to a new forum sad ones.
No longer free to just talk :(
Many here are sick of hearing about it.
I'm not wasting my time with you.........
#39 Sep 21, 2010
I've responded to people on this forum that asked me questions about healing and I gave them the facts about my healing and deliverance, so that perhaps they would be encouraged to reach out by faith and realize they too could be healed.
Whether you believe I was healed or not is of no nevermind to me. It's fact.
The Bible is the bible according to Jesus. Period.
Looks like I'm the one who can't freely talk without you yapping about it, foaming at the mouth, acting crazy.
You've said you not wasting your time with me, yet you keep following me around over and over. Very weird.
If your tired of it, move on...simple easy, just stop raving.
#40 Sep 21, 2010
You quit. You're following me ??
Why ? Attention ?
I bet you post next ??????????
You're the raver. I'm calm, happy, not at all foaming.
Why are you following me ??
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