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Since: Jun 09

Morrison, CO

#1 Jun 21, 2009
I thought I'd start this thread because many of you will have tips to help me learn to eat again.

My lower partial isn't right but until a new one is made, it's all I have to work with and without it I cannot chew.

Tuesday will be three weeks since my surgery. I can chew on the left side; chewing on the right side I bite my cheek. However the biggest problem seems to be that, while I chew, some of the food ends up between my cheek and my lower partial.

With a little work, I can use my tongue to bring the food back to where it belongs but in doing so I look like a chip monk checking my storage pockets.

I'm not talking about any major food, just crustless bread with tuna salad and that takes my half an hour.

Biting is also difficult because it causes the back of my upper to pull away from the roof of my mouth. Maybe some powder adhesive would correct that but I'm trying to avoid the use of adhesives.
They stay in place as long as I don't try to bite but at some point, biting will be necessary.

I'd like to think one day I can eat a sliced tomato sandwich or a hot dog...not aiming for steak yet.

Thanks ;-)
cin

Rowlett, TX

#2 Jun 22, 2009
I can relate to the eating! It's a challenge! I've been on mostly liquids for a week and while I can't complain about losing 10#, I'd love to eat some "real" food! I did try just a hotdog today and did pretty well. Right side works better than the left and mashing it against the roof with my tongue helped too. I know the recovery is slow but I can't help but be anxious to be normal as soon as I can.
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#3 Jun 22, 2009
MM ...
Yes ... if you bite down like you used to with your front teeth, the plate tips ... try this: when you bite down, push the food into your teeth and let your teeth cut the food ... don't pull it away like before. Someone else on the forum passed that on to me. Soon it becomes habit. Yep, as you have noticed, you don't "grind" your teeth anymore, it's more of an up/down - up/down, pulverizing of the food. I bought some Freedent gum and practiced chewing - that works. It was slow go for awhile ... but eventually my brain told my mouth what it needed to do and I started grinding the food again. Your jaws will get VERY tired from chewing so slowly, but it's just like a therapy. If your plate still tips, use the POWDER it will keep it in place for sure.... don't torture yourself with that gooey stuff ... ick, and it's a mess. I LOVE TOMATO SANDWICHES!!! Lightly toasted, mayo, tomatoes, salt and pepper .... oh, yum ... you will be doing those shortly ... You might have to remove the skin from the sliced rim of the tomato .... but that should be a 'very shortly' thing that you can manage. Believe it or not, I could eat toast before I could eat bread. Bread was too sticky.
Good luck, and when you find what works for you let us know ...

Since: Jun 09

Morrison, CO

#4 Jun 25, 2009
Hi Angel...thanks, as always. I'm going to try the powder again and see how it goes. I'm also going to skin a tomato and make myself a tomato sandwich tonight. I love them too. I might skip the toast for now.
cin

Rowlett, TX

#5 Jun 28, 2009
MM, how goes the powder? Haven't tried anything myself yet but considering it. Any words of wisdom to share?

Since: Jun 09

Denver, CO

#6 Jun 28, 2009
Hi Cin,

Today is the third day I have used the powder. I have good suction without it but my dentist said when the denture feels more secure to me, I will speak better so I thought I'd try it.

I bought Wernet's Super Denture Powder on drugstore.com . The first time I didn't use enough but the last two times if has worked great. I can finally bite down on food and the denture stays in place, although I haven't tried an apple yet but I can eat pasta which I couldn't do very well before.

It's not "goo" at all and it's hard to describe the consistency once it's wet...it's more like watered down glue. It leaves very little residue in my mouth but I brush my gums and palate when I take my teeth out just to be sure.

I bought this brand because my sister recommended it; others may work just as well but I haven't tried them.

MM (6-2-09)
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#7 Jun 28, 2009
Just wanted to add that I tried Werner's and Fixodent ... both were superior to that gooey gunk and the strips (which at first I thought was "the bomb'.... Fixodent was my choice.
Gads, it is so great that I don't have to use any of that stuff anymore. Well, I'll be darned .... another upside.(wink)

Since: Jun 09

Denver, CO

#8 Jul 2, 2009
Angel, my powder is Wernets, made in Ireland. Is there a Werner's made here? What made you decide on the Fixodent over others...is it better and how?
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#9 Jul 2, 2009
Werner's was in an old fashioned looking box; that's what drew my attention to it ... The reason I switched was because I read a post on this forum, somewhere, that someone had just started using Fixodent and they were really impressed with it ... I was so freaking desperate, that when we were out that same afternoon, at our local Sav-On had it so I bought it too. I used it, and it just seemed to "work better", and I guess I just liked the way the powder sort of faded away instead of leaving any gooey crap in my mouth. Heck, now it makes me laugh, but I remember that sometimes trying to loosen the denture from the powder was a real job ... that's when I found out that soda, I guess the carbonation, would loosen it more quickly if I swished it around in my mouth. I don't have any of the Werner's or Fixodent around here since I got my snap in April. Hopefully, I will NEVER have a need for it again. It's funny, but the snap in is so absolutely 100% different from a regular denture it is hard to remember exactly how freaking miserable it was. I mean, I do remember, and although the snap in has it's own unique adjustments, they're just not the same as a regular denture. There's no slipping, or sore spots, or things getting caught under, or worry about sneezing out, or falling out, or what I can or can't bite into, or religns ... and the VERY BEST part ... no palate. NO PALATE. I can't put it into words ... I just don't know how to tell all of you ... if you are truly unhappy, and you want your taste back - do whatever you have to do to save for implant posts for your denture.
No ... it's not like your own teeth. But as close as you're ever going to get.
Well ... maybe I will need to edit that last comment ... because I just got a message that my bottom permanent bridges are done, and my appointment is a go for the 8th ... I am jumping up and down with excitement ... that will mean NO MORE bottom partial ... hurrah!

Since: Jun 09

Denver, CO

#10 Jul 3, 2009
Thanks Angel, I'm going to try the Fixodent powder because the other does leave a little gluey stuff in my mouth.
cin

Rowlett, TX

#11 Jul 3, 2009
My lower has snaps but not the upper. I'll have to ask about that at my next adjustment.

Eating is getting easier but still sticking with the soft stuff. Pasta is good, most soups and a couple dishes I make with ground beef work ok. Can't do salads yet, or any real biting. Stitches finally going away so hope another week will improve the eating even more!
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#12 Jul 3, 2009
Cin ... you are doing fantastic. Once your stiches and gum tissue heals, I bet you are going to be fine. Salads? They might take awhile. Luckily you have the bottom snapped down, if your tops were snapped you'd be gold.

MM ... "Dusting" them is the best way ... after my gums were fully healed the "dusting" in the ridge was pretty liberal ... I used to brush and rinse my denture and then while it was good and wet I applied the powder ... Boy, MM, will you ever be glad when you don't have to go through this anymore. I'm excited FOR you.
cin

Rowlett, TX

#13 Jul 11, 2009
I've been finding a few more things I can chew! Odd how this excites me but the mere thought of more soup really turns me off.

This morning I ate toast! Of course I cut it into small bites and used a fork, but I did it and loved every bite! 1 piece with all that chewing was plenty but it was a start!

At noon, while out shopping with my sister, I had pancakes at IHOP! I even splurged and used "real" syrup--none of that sugar-free stuff for me this time. It was wonderful!

Tonight I wanted something with texture and flavor so we went to our local BBQ house and I had a plate of chopped turkey with BBQ sauce on it, potato salad and green bean. I was able to manage the beans and most of the salad really well, but the turkey was challenging. I managed to eat about 1/2 or more if it and it tasted really good but my jaw is paying for it now. So I've taken some Advil and back to my new favorite Ice water and I'm feeling better.

Be glad when my upper stays in place better and all the healing is done so I don't hit those tender spots anymore.

Since: Jun 09

Longmont, CO

#14 Jul 11, 2009
Cin, I think you are doing great too!

I'm still eating my chicken noodle soup much of the time, with american cheese on top and saltine crackers added. I like it enough that I will probably keep eating it after I move on to better things.

Meat is the biggest thing; I miss a steak now and then. I did ask the lady at the deli to cut me a thick chunk of turkey and I made turkey salad...a sandwich with avacado tastes so good to me.

What really odd is that before I had seven front lower teeth (still have them) and six upper front teeth and I could eat anything, even steak if it was tender. Now I've added more teeth on top and I can't eat everything. That just doesn't make sense to me.

The foods I can eat are not for dieting but still I've lost ten pounds.

Last week I got Taco bell; I couldn't handle the tortilla but got a spoon and ate what was inside.
I made sloppy joe's and managed that well. Got some roast beef hash...it's not cheap but it tasted good.

I just keep trying new things.
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#15 Jul 12, 2009
Have you tried chicken pot pies dumped over mashed potatoes yet? That was one of the first semi-solid meals I had. I know it's not exactly summertime fare, but it sure did tasted good to me.
MM, are you sure you're not a California gal? Tomatoes, tacos, avocado?? You eat like I do! Next you'll be telling me you love hamburgers!
cin

Rowlett, TX

#16 Jul 12, 2009
Everything you mention, MM, sounds wonderful! Can't bite into a sandwich yet but I'm not much of a sandwich eater anyway. But I enjoy salad spreads so need to make a few of those to try. I've attempted a couple potato chips for something different but not real comfortable yet. Maybe I'll do better with the salad spread on a thin cracker or other wafer.

My full extraction wasn't well advertised to friends and family. I decided to not share openly out of vanity and embarrassment, but have since found that many who didn't know think I've had veneer work done to improve my smile! I admit to having some major work done and just go on. I've decided, for the most part, what I've been through is very personal. Therefore, I've let vanity take the lead and I'm feeling much better about myself. My confidence level is growing as well as my overall acceptance of what's happened. I feel good about many things that I hadn't noticed not feeling good about before, and more in control in some ways too. I know that sounds confusing but it is what it is.

I will say that this forum and some of the "regulars" I share with, like MM and Angel, has been the best help ever! Reading about others and their upcoming experience or events of the past and recoveries, has helped me put things into perspective and allows me to help others too. And that feels wonderful! So a BIG thank you to everyone that contributes on this forum and all the helpful tips, suggestions, and shared info!!!

Since: Jun 09

Longmont, CO

#17 Jul 12, 2009
Hi Cin, it took me a while to bite into a sandwich too, so at first I removed the crust (I buy Oroweat Country White bread because it's soft but doesn't turn to dough in my mouth) and cut the sandwich into little pieces I could just pop into my mouth.

Like you, I didn't advertise my extractions. I could easily explain speaking poorly because of the bone infection. It is a very personal issue and I know some people are very comfortable speaking openly about it, but I'm not one of them. This wonderful forum and my dentist's office are my only places to speak freely. It's strange that I don't have any problem talking about implants openly but false teeth is another matter...I don't know where this comes from within me.

And, yes, Angel I love hamburgers but what I really want is a salad made with spring lettuce, grape tomatoes, black olives, scallions, topped with raspberry vinegarette and feta cheese lol.
cin

Rowlett, TX

#18 Jul 12, 2009
Hi MM! I had Menopausal Gingivitis that was quite advanced and bone loss as a result. It wasn't obvious by looking at me but the improvement from full dentures and restored health after the extractions and bone scrapings have made a major difference in my overall health and the way I feel. In my job and other organizations, public speaking is a large part of my life so I was very concerned about my ability to speak afterward and read everything I could to prepare myself. Fortunately, I worked right away with words and full sentences and even made myself stop and repeat any word that didn't come out right the first time. Practice was critical in the beginning and now my speech is about "normal" according to those closest to me, though I catch myself slurring a few words still.

Like you, this forum is the best place for me to be totally honest about the disease and surgery, and gives me the chance to offer support to others and learn from many more.
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#19 Jul 13, 2009
MM - salad was the last thing I conquered. Lettuce is tough to grind - the other veggies will be easier.(except the skins of the tomatos and scallions) But you will be able to eat all the salad you want when your snap in is in. That's another reason to choose the porceline ... they can be made sharper and grind up food more like your real teeth.
I really understand about the talking about implants, but not dentures. I know that deep down inside of me, it is like I "failed" at keeping my teeth ... and like I said before, there's so many jokes and negative remarks about being toothless it makes wearing them makes me somewhat "ashamed" ... Hey, I know this is my own issue to deal with - not how it appears to all of you. But, I think I should feel free to post it - I don't think I'm the only one. So, not only for comfort am I pursing implanted bridges on the top - it is so that I don't have to wear a denture at all. I will feel a zillion times better about myself. And I hate having the "granny mouth" more than anyone can imagine. It's embarrasing to me.
cin

Rowlett, TX

#20 Jul 13, 2009
Angel and all:

I'm embarrassed that I had to have all my teeth removed just to have a healthy mouth and straight teeth but I've chosen to not dwell on that part but to rejoice in the fact that my smart was to get healthy again with the extractions and have the straight teeth and pretty smile. I'm unsettled about not being able to eat the things I've always eaten because I can't chew them yet but I know I'm still in the healing phase. Yes, it's frustrating but I'm dealing the best that I can. I have not let anyone but my dentist or surgeon see me without teeth. My husband has seen me in pain with meds and ice pack, was embarrassed to be seen with me in public while my face was bruised, and listens to me brag about something new I've tried to eat and whether or not I was successful in my attempt. Through all that, I won't let him see me with the sunken lips, gummy grin or to check out my cool anchors in my lower jaw! Some things I want to keep private---kind of like the early days of never seeing me without make-up. In time, I'm sure he'll catch me toothless, but until I'm ready to deal with that, NO WAY! I have enough to deal with yet and don't need that on the plate.

Today's new food: chips and hot sauce! Tasted good but the chips were still a challenge. I'll try again another time though. Not giving up!

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