Dentures are far too big

Dentures are far too big

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sansteeth

Hesperia, CA

#1 Jun 1, 2010
I thought I replied to another post a few minutes ago, and hope I'm not duplicating that reply but it never showed up and I can't even find the message I replied to. I had all my teeth removed in mid-March, 2010, getting full dentures at the same time. Mine are so big and clumsy I had to stop wearing them completely and now wear a scarf over the lower part of my face and stay home. I paid $5,000 for the extractions and the dentures together, and was supposed to pay hundreds more for relining them in six months, but I quit my dentist as he said he couldn't make them smaller and denied that I looked any different before than I did with those huge things in my mouth distorting my face, making big bulges and pulling my mouth open (I had to force my lips to close) and twisting it, and stretching my not-young, not-resilient skin. If I'd had those dentures relined I still couldn't have worn them but would have been out nearly $500 more. I am without teeth (and without a dentist) now and also without money until I save more up, and I don't know what to do now. I recently made a website that shows my before and after pictures and also explains what's wrong with the dentures. Please take a look and read what I have to say and I will welcome your advice, and thank you. I don't make any money from this site - It's only about my denture problems: http://while-time-goes-by.webs.com .
Angel

Santee, CA

#2 Jun 1, 2010
Well - I'm no professional, but your dentist must be blind in one eye and not able to see out of the other that those teeth do not fit you and you look tremendously different with the new ones as you do without your teeth at all. If I were you, instead of fooling with him anymore, I would take all of this to the local dental board and tell him that's what you are going to do, and then retain an attorney .... THAT IS SO WRONG. There is no excuse for that - none of it. Please keep me posted.
sansteeth

Boron, CA

#4 Jun 3, 2010
Thank you for your comments, Angel! I had signed up to receive notice when there was a comment on my comment, but never heard anything so I just checked. I am really glad that you can see the difference in how I looked before and after the dentures! A couple of people I know have said that I looked fine in my After pictures! That shocked me. I think they didn't want to hurt my feelings because I look terrible in them (as others who are honest have concurred). Although I decided not to try to sue him, your comment will have me rethinking this. I hope others will take a look at the pictures and comment, too. I have added a new and much better COMMENTS form on the site, plus I've added new pages (FAQs, etc.) that I think will be helpful. Most of all I need comments, and I really appreciate yours, which I will share with family to see what they think. I hope you won't mind if I post the URL to my site again. I very much hope people will look at the Before and After pictures - and maybe read my comments - and let me know what they think. http://while-time-goes-by.webs.com . Thanks so much.
Angel

Santee, CA

#5 Jun 3, 2010
I guess the good part about being on this forum is that we're not personal friends and can be honest about everything that happens to us and how we feel, and even how we deal with even the emotional part of our Denture 'Venture. No, I'm not worried about hurting your feelings, but I am worried that you're not happy with the outcome and I really don't think you should have to live the rest of your life self-consious about your mouth/teeth/appearence. Yes, if I had that outcome you can bet I would be camped on my dentist's doorstep and those dentures would be adjusted to fit, or remade ... I think you could be very vocal in the waiting room to the point where they would knocking themselves out to make you happy .... TELL them that you are not happy with the outcome and that if they refuse to help you out that you will pursue the matter by contacting the dental board and filing a complaint, or contacting your local news channel ... you know, they love to "investigate" consumer complaints .... contact BBB ... DO something. Do not let them tell you that you have to accept those dentures .... they do not fit you and you are not happy.
Janie 7997

Tamaqua, PA

#6 Jun 5, 2010
I visited your site, viewed your before/after pics. Honey, please take Angel's advice! You were so wronged by your dentist!! Does he not care about his patients? Like I said to my own dentist when I wanted changes made..."I'M the one who has to live with these teeth for the rest of MY life! Not YOU! I want them to look and feel how I WANT them to look & feel!" And he did just that...made me, the patient, happy! As I looked at your photos of your dentures sitting alondside your female friends...I noticed something. It looks like the excess acrylic was not trimmed away in the creation process. But, instead, just folded over and molded around into some semblance of "gums". WAAAAYYYY too much gum area on your dentures!! That can easily be trimmed away I would imagine...the excess on my own was trimmed down. I know you stated you do not want to sue...for moral reasons, etc. But if I were you, I'd seriously reconsider!! At the very least contact the ADA or BBB on this guy!! Keep us posted and good luck to you! PS> I like your ideas for facial covers! Very creative!
sansteeth

Hesperia, CA

#7 Jun 6, 2010
I'm very grateful for the comments so far on my huge, misshapen dentures. Your sympathy is obviously real and It is very comforting as I have truly felt alone in this...not knowing what I should do and having very little money. It's also very comforting to know others see what I see and understand how those dentures felt, how awful I looked with them in my mouth, and how difficult it was to eat or drink or speak, etc. I'm not wearing them at all now, and have no teeth and have to cover my face, but this is far better than having those dentures in my mouth. My gums are still shrinking (it's been just short of two months now since I had the extractions) so I have some time to wait before finding someone who will make me dentures that fit, but as we don't live anywhere near a big city and there are no specialists who only make dentures in this area - plus probably all the dentists around here know each other and even have dentures made at the same lab...I am wondering how I'm going to be able to know that I'm getting someone who will do the job right. I don't want to sue the dentist, as that won't help me and it would be very stressful and time-consuming. What I need most of all is to find someone who can make me dentures that really fit as I've already paid for these that I can't use and I can't possibly afford to have dentures made again more than one more time, and I have to save up for that. I wonder if anyone knows of such a dentist in the high desert area in San Bernardino County, California? I hope someone can help me with this as I can't imagine how to find this out on my own.
Angel

Santee, CA

#8 Jun 6, 2010
I'm pretty familiar with the San Bernadino area ... it's a pretty big city ... I would think there are plenty of dentists in that area ... where are you? Baker? Apple Valley? Do you own a car?.... surely you must know someone you could ask for a recommendation? But ... I don't know why you are not demanding your money back, or demanding that he makes you a new set??? I'll be damn that I would cover my face because my dentist didn't do the job that I paid him for.... he should cover his face in shame. Yes, probably all of the dentists do know each other, and they don't want you making a big stink, but you should .... you are 'giving up', and for the life of me, I can't figure out why. Do you take back defective appliances, clothing, etc? Why are you so hesitant to take your dentures back?
Sara

Atwood, CA

#9 Jun 6, 2010
I visited your site and I'm willing to bet, if you take those pictures to a lawyer, that you will never have to go inside a courtroom. I guarantee you, the dentist will settle out of court. If it was me, I'd turn him in to the American Dental Association, and every other place I could think of. You're not only going to be doing yourself a favor, but you will be preventing him from doing the same thing to someone else. Please reconsider and get a lawyer.

Since: Jun 09

Longmont, CO

#10 Jun 7, 2010
Please contact that dentist and let him know that you insist he remake your dentures. If you allow him to do this to you, he will surely do it to others as well.

I have looked at your pictures and I'm outraged that he thinks you look the same. He'd have to be blind...well, maybe that's his problem.

You paid good money for a product that does not fit because it was not made properly for your mouth and your face.

You might check to see if your local news has an investigative team. We have one here in Denver and if you have one near you, call them if your dentist refuses to make it right by you. I think you will get some satisfaction if he refuses and you tell him what you plan to do.

I am so sorry this is happening to you but since it is, get your moxy up girl and go after him.
Oh, I am so mad!
sansteeth

Hesperia, CA

#11 Jun 7, 2010
I said it has been just under two months since the extractions, but I should have said just under three months. :-)
Janie 7997

Tamaqua, PA

#12 Jun 7, 2010
Like others have said, the first step would be to demand a new set be made. You paid for them, he should fix them. A question I wondered is...Did you use any kind of health insurance for these dentures to be made? Sometimes they can help you get the service you need or correct an issue that shouldn't have happened. Another question....I lucked out with my dentist as he has his own lab in his office and employs his own denturists. Everything was covered by my insurance minus a few co-pays here & there. Do you know of any dentists in your area that do that as well...have a lab on premises? Did your dentist make your set himself or did he have a lab make them? I feel so bad for you having to go through this. I know how I felt with just MINOR issues w/ my dentures...I can't imagine the emotional/mental pain you must be feeling due to this. Take the advice of others here who care and take action!! You don't have to accept this as if it's OK!!
sansteeth

Hesperia, CA

#13 Jun 7, 2010
Thanks so much for your kind comments. They are immensely appreciated, as are those of the others who have commented here. I don't have dental insurance. I put money aside for years to have this done. I am not married, and my only income is a small social security check. I had thought my dentist's assistant said that he would make the dentures himself, but I can't imagine that he actually did that since there is a lab nearby where other dentists have their dentures made, and obviously he hasn't had much - if any before working on my dentures - experience in doing this. He did take impressions (his assistant did some, and he did some). There are no denturists in this area. There are places around here that are called (I think this is the term used) "denture centers" but they are not staffed by denturists, just ordinary dentists as far as I can tell after researching (on the web) every dentist associated with them. I no longer trust an ordinary dentist to make good dentures that fit for me, but I don't have much of a choice since I don't have the time, money, or transportation to go out of the area. I do hope that someone who lives around here will find this forum, or my dentures website ( http://while-time-goes-by.webs.com ), and let me know on either one (there is an email address on my website under FAQS) of someone in this area who is an expert in dentures and will make good, well-fitted dentures, whether he or she is a "denturist" or not. I live near Victorville, California, and it would have to be within about twenty miles of Victorville. I will be grateful for the rest of my life to the person who recommends a dentist who makes me good dentures. That is all I want - to get good dentures that fit, and to get them on my next try because I can't afford to try again after that. Thanks so much for your kind words ... Everyone's good wishes do help me to realize that I'm not as alone as I often feel in this, and that is a big help to me. It keeps me going and gives me hope. P.S. I wouldn't want my (former) dentist to make new dentures for me, for free or even if he paid me, as I have no reason to believe that they would be any good at all, since he thought the first ones were just fine.:-( I never want to have to go back there. I just want someone else to do it who will make good ones.

Since: Dec 10

Victorville, CA

#14 Dec 15, 2010
Hello again! It's been a long time since I wrote the first post on here about my huge and ugly dentures. I first got those dentures on the day all of my remaining teeth were extracted, in mid-March. I haven't worn either denture since early April as they were only stretching my skin and they were utterly useless to me. I couldn't even open my mouth far enough to take a bite much less eat anything with them or talk, they were so huge. And they made me look really, really ugly. I was stuck at home, and I didn't go anywhere until mid-October after I had made an appointment with another dentist. I didn't know if I could afford this new dentist as her specialty is cosmetic dentistry and it was expensive enough getting dentures from the ordinary dentist who made my first ones. I chose this particular dentist, though, particularly because she DOES specialize in cosmetic dentistry, and also because she is a woman. I figured she would not only have years of extra training and a lot of experience primarily focused on making people look good, but as a woman (and a very nice looking one) she would very likely be very sensitive to how the dentures fit and how they make the patient look. Well, I'm sure I was right about that, but I was even luckier than I have a right to be, because while I was having the initial consultation with this dentist, an associate of hers who is a prosthodontist arrived at the office and he ended up making new dentures for me. And they are wonderful! Really perfect! I can't possibly express how good I feel about them. For all of these months I thought I might truly never be able to go anywhere again, except to places that I absolutely had to go to, hurriedly and while wearing a scarf pulled up to my nose -- That's what I wore even right here at home, every day until I got my new teeth (just last week, on December 6th). And I could hardly speak well enough, without teeth, for anyone to understand most of what I said.

I can tell you now from experience that if your dentures are bulky and make you look like you have your mouth full of rocks, or you have any of the other problems I had with the first dentures I had made for me early this year, you should not believe your dentist if he or she says that you look fine, or just like you did before your teeth were extracted, or that there is no way that they can make dentures that are smaller for you. Well, maybe those particular unskilled and unknowing dentists can't do it, but a prosthodontist can. It may be -- Surely it WILL be -- more expensive than a regular dentist would charge, but it's wonderful to have teeth that are snug and compact and comfortable and that allow you to speak and bite and chew on the same day that you get them! And that make you look really good, instead of ugly!

Now if only I had known that my first dentures would be huge and ugly, I wouldn't have had to pay for those first, and then the second pair! But now, even though I'm a lot poorer, I am as satisfied as I could possibly be. I am so happy about these new teeth -- and I've had them over a week now, so I think they'll be just fine. I wanted to let you know. I hope my experience can help others. Don't forget: find a prosthodontist, instead of a regular dentist.
Angel

Santee, CA

#15 Dec 15, 2010
sans..... YOU ARE AMAZING. THANK YOU from the bottom from my heart, for I know there are thousands of people who do not wear their teeth for various reasons that are, basically the same problem. Teeth made for them that do no fit - YOU HUNG IN THERE! I have such admiration for you that you did not give up - you surely hit your personal bottom and rose up to the challenge and have SUCCEEDED! You have to be so proud of yourself. Merry Christmas, Sans .... I always knew it ... where there is a will, there is a way. You have, indeed, inspired me.
GRAMS

San Marino, CA

#16 Mar 21, 2011
CONGRATS! GREAT NEWS! GOOD FOR YOU!
I HAVE A VERY SIMILAR ISSUE WITH MY DENTURES ALSO.
I WOULOD LOVE IT IF YU COULD SHARE THE NAME OF THE COSMETIC DENTIST YOU WENT TO.
'GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY SMILING :-)

Since: Dec 10

Adelanto, CA

#17 Mar 21, 2011
GRAMS wrote:
CONGRATS! GREAT NEWS! GOOD FOR YOU!
I HAVE A VERY SIMILAR ISSUE WITH MY DENTURES ALSO.
I WOULOD LOVE IT IF YU COULD SHARE THE NAME OF THE COSMETIC DENTIST YOU WENT TO.
'GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY SMILING :-)
I don't know if I can put my email address on here, but you can write to me personally and I will write and tell you the name of the cosmetic dentist whose office I visited (where I got my new teeth). Please write to me at (you'll have to put this address together) denturesfromhell @ mail.com .:-)

Since: Dec 10

Adelanto, CA

#18 Mar 21, 2011
Angel, Thank you so much for your kind comments! It's been months since you wrote them, but I haven't been back here to read what you wrote as I didn't receive a notice that there was a comment until this evening when I learned that someone had just written moments before! I love my new teeth still (but of course!). I can hardly believe I spent the better part of last year neither with teeth nor dentures. It was an awful experience. I feel so sorry for anyone who has paid a lot of money only to get dentures that fit so badly and look so awful that they can't wear them at all. I wonder how many of us this has happened to. Don't dentists have to prove that they can make decent dentures before they're allowed to do it and charge for it?
Grams

Norwalk, CA

#19 Mar 21, 2011
Like you I also pad over $4500.00 for a set of partial's. They don't fit I can not chew on the left side. The entire left side do not line up or close together. I can count the time's I returned to the Victorville dentist trying to get them resolved, finally giving up after about 2 years of fighting.

I work in the professional world and need teeth, so I am forced to wear them everyday. They cause me constant TMJ pain and a headache that most would want to die from. I have had ths latest headache since Jan 27th, 2011. I wet to St. Mary's Hospital emer room when it got so bad I thougt my head would explode. After being admitted for 8 days and having every test know to man ran, It was ruled that my headache is from ill fitting dentures. Because my jaw doesn't close properly I have about $50,000.00 in hospital bills and still no way to afford to fix or replace the dental partial. I can't imagine that dentist are allowed to sell denture's without the proper training.

I would love to find out who you went to that finally was able to correct your dentures and make you smile again.
Angel

Santee, CA

#20 Mar 21, 2011
Sans ... wow. Just WOW. I am so happy for you - I wish you would post your experience on some of the other threads ... there are so many people who need to read your story.

Grams: your story is just so sad. I hope you get some help and soon ... that is all so wrong.

No - once a dentist gets his DDS he can do anything he wants ... implants, make dentures (no they don't hardly get any training in that anymore)- whatever. A dentist can specialize and receive training to further their education, but that doesn't mean that he/she can't do the procedures without it. That's why it is up to us to find our own specialists and not just use our regular dentist for dentures, implants, oral surgery, etc. It's all about the buck.
Sunshine

Damascus, OR

#21 May 7, 2011
I am so happy for you! I am also so sorry you had to endure all that. This was a happy ever ending and I hope you continue being blessed with the right people coming in and leaving your life. He should have been ashamed, all for money. How does a human begin normal and intelligent, go to school to help others and than makes a few bucks and sees nothing but green..shame on him! Bless you and yours <3

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