Disappointed in overdenture with 4 i...
jaylene

Cibolo, TX

#143 Aug 21, 2012
Im new here but this is what i do. I carry a childs toothbrush, one of the cheap ones that come 4 to a package, with cartoon characters on them. In social settings and restaurants, after eating, i go to the restroom and without taking them out, i brush them with clear water in my mouth. anyone coming in has no idea they are dentures and the toothbrush is for children and is soft enough to not damage the denture. then when i get home and clean a good cleaning.
Teresa

Odenton, MD

#144 Sep 11, 2012
Hi. I have been reading all of your posts. This is the only forum on the subject I have found. I had extractions and implants put in ob the upper at the end of March. I had an immediate temporary denture put in. Soft diet for months while posts grew into bone, multiple appointments for molds, fittings etc.. over the summer. I thought it would never end. Last week I got my permanent denture. It is only removable by the dentist. It does not move. I can eat what ever I want. It does not cover the palate. I go back in a week for a check up. My only problem at this time is above one 'tooth' on the left there seems to be a small gap where I can blow air through between the denture and my gum. I believe this will be fixed-that is why I have an appointment 1 week after placement. I am very pleased so far and would do it again. My only regret so far is that I did not do the bottom jaw at the same time.
Sassy

Arroyo Grande, CA

#145 Sep 15, 2012
Teresa, I am so happy for you! Did you get acrylic or porcelain? I am concerned that with an acrylic permanent denture the tooth will crack where they filled it in over the implant. I am so happy to hear you are pleased with how your teeth look and having no palate must be a huge relief plus no goo. I am still researching. This is a delay in the process. If I go to a dental school the process will be longer to the finish product. I had a dentist tell me now there is no need to remove the denture every year. The development of implants have improved.

Angel,
Where are at with repairs? This has been a long road for you. You are in my thoughts often.
I am thinking eight implants are better then six. But none less than six. Is eight over kill? What have your dentist's informed all of you?

Michele,
How are you doing? Teeth and the new marriage?
God Bless
Sassy

Paso Robles, CA

#147 Oct 10, 2012
Hello Kene,
This is the post for you. I can relate to your feelings of wanting more permanent teeth. This awful!!! Check out dental schools in your area for cost and options. After reading this post the longer you wait the more money it will cost. Angel has been down several different options with twists and turns. Read back to see her journey and others along the way. I am just starting out as you. Disappointed is a polite way of saying how we feel. My first appointment with a dental school is tomorrow. If we look at the bright side our journey is easy compared to others with serious health issues. They would pull all of their teeth to regain their health and consider it a blessing. Each has their own trials we must endure and put in perspective. This is not easy either and I fear will be harder the longer we wait to implement options.

Angel,
Where are you at with repairs? Six or eight implants?
God Bless,
Sassy
Angel

Santee, CA

#148 Oct 11, 2012
I would do it again in a minute .... with all of the time, money and problems .... NOTHING about a denture or any prothesis is perfect, but it beats the hell out of wearing a denture. My All on 4 has broken in the same place as every other appliance I have ever worn ... it seems that I have a tremendous 'bite' ... I have broken everything - made of everything. The broke part of the bridge is going to be replaced with another bridge onto an added implant. That will give me 5 implants on the top and 2 bridges .... FINE by me ... as long as I never have to wear a denture. Spend every cent you can on your own mouth .... Good luck....
Terry

Phoenix, AZ

#149 Oct 11, 2012
Angel, thanks for the input. I am also in ElCajon. Can you tell me who is a good dentist to go to in this area or in San Diego? Did you have to pay again when you traded up to a bridge? Terry
Angel wrote:
Susie ... I just traded "up" from an overdenture to a fixed bridge on those same 4 implants. As you know, your denture is held in place by the o-rings that the dentist inserts in those "holes" ... I started with black - got a little movement and so they put in red ones .... my denture stuck like glue. Sometimes it would take a few minutes to get them out - but then I learned a trick on releasing them ... by removing just one of the back ones first and then pulling down with my index fingers over the front 2. If you have the correct o-rings in there your denture shouldn't move at all. Yes, food still got under the overdenture ... it still gets under the bridge ... but, food got caught in between my own teeth too - I've always had to rinse after I eat - that has not changed ... just rinsing bridgework now. Since you already have the implants, and you're not happy with the overdenture, talk to your dentist about the next step, which is a permanent bridge. He will not need to add anymore implants .... or shouldn't anyway if he put the first 4 in the right place. Bridges are as close to your own teeth as you will probably get in this lifetime ... if you're not happy you may as well bite the bullet. Let me know about your o-rings .... I'm curious...
Terry

Phoenix, AZ

#150 Oct 11, 2012
Angel, thanks for the input. I am also in ElCajon. Can you tell me who is a good dentist to go to in this area or in San Diego? Did you have to pay again when you traded up to a bridge? Terry
Angel

Santee, CA

#151 Oct 12, 2012
Terry wrote:
Angel, thanks for the input. I am also in ElCajon. Can you tell me who is a good dentist to go to in this area or in San Diego? Did you have to pay again when you traded up to a bridge? Terry
I go to Dr. Howard Feffer in La Mesa .... he is fabulous. The dentist who actually did my bridge has left Dr. F's practice to practice in LA, but Dr. F works with another implant/denture specialist. Yes - when I decided to change from my snap-on denture to a full bridge there was a charge as they installed 2 more implants and had to create the bridge. For those of you who don't know, the bridge has a metal base, so no, it is not prone to breakage. My break was sort of freaky as I have broken everything in that particular part of my jaw.
Sassy

Arroyo Grande, CA

#152 Oct 16, 2012
Angel,
I guess it is freaky to break a bridge with a metal base. I know you must treat them with kid gloves.
Do you have to pay for making the new bridges?
At what stage are you with completing this minor set back?
You have or will have two bridges; will these be two separate pieces with the metal bases? How many teeth total?
How long did your dentist say your implants would last?
Are you having any problems with bacteria and pockets around the implants?
How much does it cost to remove the bridge(s) to clean the implants?
Do you still notice the implants only in cold weather?
God Bless
Sassy

Arroyo Grande, CA

#153 Oct 16, 2012
Terry,
http://www.atsudental.com/dental_services/ima...
The website above is for Arizona University Dental Clinic. I hope this is an option or at least a good starting point. They do implant planning; getting the CT scan plus knowledgeable and factual answers about your dental options could save you thousands of dollars and a huge disappointment. In addition to the possibility of an excellent referral if the continued travel is too far. Sometimes the instructors have a practice outside the University and offer a little lower cost than the competitive rate dentists charge in private practice. Even if it were an overnight stay due to travel time, the cost savings, quality of dental work and care would be worth it. Dentists are doing implants with no more training than buying and watching a single video or attending, a one-day training seminar conducted in a hotel. The dental school could make the prosthesis and save you some money in that area too. Good Luck and God Bless.
Sassy

Arroyo Grande, CA

#154 Oct 16, 2012
Terry,
Your post has AZ location. If you are in the San Diego area you could check into UCLA school of dentistry. They do implants.
Good Luck
Angel

Santee, CA

#155 Oct 19, 2012
I do not have to pay for another implant or the new abutment bridge .... my treatment was customer satisfaction. I had a vacation planned and am now back from it, and will start to new process soon .. it is just mainly going to be a pain in the butt .. They do not remove my bridge for cleaning as there is no need, I can clean around my implants with the water pic and they go after any plaque with hand tools that I may have missed. I think there are 12 teeth up there ... so there will be a bridge of 10 and another of 2 teeth. No, the cold weather doesn't affect them anymore. I would do all of this again, even with the break in a minute. Nothing like dentures and as close to your own teety as possible. Going to UCLA would be a pain in the neck from San Diego ... and really no need - prices in San Diego are pretty price competitive I think.
Susie

United States

#156 Dec 29, 2012
I began this thread 2 1/2 years ago when I was so disappointed with my upper overdenture on 4 implants. It never felt secure. I always had movement and the o-rings constantly wore out. After many adjustments and a very patient dentist, I finally decided to have a permanent bridge. After about 14 mo with the prosthodontist, I was fitted with the permanent bridge on Thursday and I am thrilled! I feel that I have real teeth in my mouth (the teeth are porcelain). I get very little food stuck under my upper teeth, I can eat apples, steak, etc. I only wish that I didn't spend the initial 10,000 for the overdenture and went right to the permanent bridge. I honestly thought, from what I was told, that the overdenture on 4 implants would be as secure as a permanent bridge and would cost less than half the price. I would just have to take it out to clean it. Was I wrong! Maybe some people find it snug and secure. I never did.
I just want to say, that it is imperative that you go to someone who is reputable, who is willing to put the time in when needed without additional cost. I went back many times when the temporary got loose or had to be adjusted. My prostodontist always made time for me and never at an extra cost.
Now lets just hope that I don't fall on my face walking my dogs....which began this entire journey!!
Angel

Oceanside, CA

#157 Jan 20, 2013
Susie .... do happy for you and me. We took the same journey.

Thank you for starting this thread .... I think you may have changed a life or two. BTW .... I don't miss my overdenture at all .... but it was a heck of a lot better than the first one.

If people only knew to take that first implant step .....
mikeswiss

Clements, CA

#158 Jan 20, 2013
Angel said:"If people only knew to take that first implant step ..... " I reckon every dentist knows that and yet ....
Angel

Oceanside, CA

#159 Jan 22, 2013
mikeswiss .... dentists, yes, they do know it .... it's hard to offer people only the best and most expensive way, when you know that what they usually want is the most expedient and cheapest way .... I know that's how it happened for me lik that. All 3 of the people I went to before all of this mess started told me that, of course, implants are the best choice,..... gave me the estimate .... and I thought ... no, I can't afford that,.... and didn't have a clue how awful the alternatives were going to be. Like shoes .... only your own fit right and feel right. It's not so much the money ... for me the regret is the waste of time - but then, maybe I needed to have that experience ... who knows?
Michele

Shortsville, NY

#160 Jan 23, 2013
Hi everyone,
I haven't posted in a long time but I continue to thank God every day that I have implants on my upper teeth and a fixed bridge....at least once daily someone says, "oh you have a beautiful smile." If they only knew! MOST OF ALL I can eat confidently and you just can't buy that.
I am going in Friday for more implants, sigh. I knew this bridge would have to be crossed as I still have 6 old (26 year old) crowns on the bottom. Got an infection, crown is bad, yadda yadda. Someone actually suggested root canals/crowns. The root canals have already failed! No! No! No! This is why you must do your research, explore boards like this and follow your gut. The cost for that Plan A would be close to what it is going to cost to get 2 implants & 3 crowns. Plus, I will not *ever have to worry about decay, etc etc etc..... if I go with Plan A I am only waiting for the inevitable later on down the road. Been there, done that. This surgery will be a "piece of cake" they say, compared to getting all my upper teeth extracted & suffering with a denture for 9 months. So wish me luck. I am a believer ! and PS, I never could have afforded this next step, which will be another $12K, but someone just left me a small inheritance -- never in a million years did I expect that. You just never, ever know. Best to all ! and Happy New Year! Michele
Michele

Shortsville, NY

#161 Jan 23, 2013
Susie,

Congratulations and good for you!@@@ So happy for you.

I actually fell this fall and skinned my nose...with my glasses.....I was horrified to think I almost fell on my teeth!! I think those of us with bridge$ should wear football helmets with the face protectors!!!

Michele
mikeswiss

Clements, CA

#162 Apr 16, 2013
Hi Angel, Michele, & Susie,

Glad to read all your real experience on implant bridge (either already wore them long while or receiving them recently). I come here to ask a still-confusing-me question that I need a clear answer from you guys having real experience. I just had my streamline implant supported dentures installed (on upper and lower all-on-4), but still feel a bit too bulky that the 'wings' at the ends interfere eating (chewing) and speaking. After complaining to my surgeon/dentist, they offer me further adjustment to improve the function and comfort. Also my surgeon kick out another option that if I am still not happy after all adjustments/works on the dentures, he would suggest to take the 'bridge' route. That way (quote) "there will be no more acrylics and ..." And of cause, he also need to add 4 more implants (2 up 2 down) to support the bridges.(They would consider discount charge for the bridge option if I decide to go for it.) My question: is it true that there will be no more acrylics on implant bridge? None at all or small part to anchor teeth with no 'extended wings'? And how big and where the metal underlay (sub metal structure) is placed to?(I suspect it would go on the back of teeth, which is acrylic.)

Appreciate your reply.
Andreab969

Springfield, NJ

#163 May 25, 2013
Angel wrote:
Thommy ..... hang in there .... just do one implant at a time until you get as many as you need up top to put on a bridge. It doesn't matter if you can only afford one a year ... at least there would be a light at the end of the tunnel. You are still working ...there must be a way you So what if it takes 5 years? If you don't start now, at the end of 5 years you will still be stuck with a denture you ate ... can you justify saving $100 a month which could pay for 1 implant a year ... Do not give up - you do not need to go through the rest of your life miserable.... And it doesn't have to be an overnight procedure .... You hang in there ... You of all people would appreciate 'the end.'
ALL DENTISTS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL. I suggest we research them b4 trusting our LIVES ( yes teeth/mouth essential to life) to them. SOME one graduated at the bottom of their class! Greed is everywhere. There is the ADA and other org s to research AND report shoddy dental practitioners!

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