Disappointed in overdenture with 4 i...
Angel

Santee, CA

#41 Aug 21, 2010
Marion ... so, you know that somehow, when the pressure is in the right places, your snap-in will come down. So, you have your own solution, you just need to know exactly where your points of release are, and did you, or did you not have to unsnap one side or the other to make it work. Really, it takes time. What you COULD do to make it a lot easier is to ask your dentist to put all black rings in .... they deteriorate very quickly but at the same time they are easier to get out. I have your option #1, but just on 4 implants ... it is not a denture, and does not look like a denture. It is just a "bridge" of teeth. I did have to have 1 sinus lift and had bone shot-in, I think, in 3 areas. It's not difficult to clean under a bridge... you just put pressure up against your gum and the WaterPik blows water under and around and anything there goes down the drain ... but, the thing is, your tissue starts to grow up against your implanted teeth and it becomes like your own teeth and there is hardly anything that ever gets under there. I have the big WaterPik unit in my bathroom, but I have a portable unit that I can put in my purse. When I travel that is the one I take .... since it is battery operated, for those of you who cannot take your snap in out at work or whatever .... you can take your Pik in the restroom and "brush" just like everyone else does. BTW - I always brushed my own teeth at work ... I could care less what anyone thought ...
You have to choose what is right for you. I knew what I didn't want - I did not want a removeable anything in my mouth ever again. I cannot believe that this temporary can get any better, but I have now been assured by someone that I met yesterday that indeed it does. I am very excited.... I am probably about a month away from being DONE!
Marian

New Port Richey, FL

#42 Aug 23, 2010
Angel You are almost at your final goal. It's been a long haul and
I hope you'll enjoy wearing your permanent bridge. I had bone marrow infusions on most teeth prior to placing the implants but no
lift. The right side of my denture is comfortable and pain free.
The left side has more plastic in the ridge and all the way in
the back last molar is beginning to irritate my gum. Thought it was
the implant but it's the gum on the sides. May need another adjustment like filing it down. Last night at dinner the front
tooth implant on the left was hurting while eating...felt like a
nail going in and out of my gum. This could be do to all the pulling trying to remove it? The implant that holds the male
locator does not hurt at all with all that tugging. Sure hope my
gums will hold up. Only one month to the day into this.

At least removal is possible on left side and with a little less
time like maybe even 10 minutes.

It's a process with lots of ups and downs for sure.
Angel wrote:
Marion ... so, you know that somehow, when the pressure is in the right places, your snap-in will come down. So, you have your own solution, you just need to know exactly where your points of release are, and did you, or did you not have to unsnap one side or the other to make it work. Really, it takes time. What you COULD do to make it a lot easier is to ask your dentist to put all black rings in .... they deteriorate very quickly but at the same time they are easier to get out. I have your option #1, but just on 4 implants ... it is not a denture, and does not look like a denture. It is just a "bridge" of teeth. I did have to have 1 sinus lift and had bone shot-in, I think, in 3 areas. It's not difficult to clean under a bridge... you just put pressure up against your gum and the WaterPik blows water under and around and anything there goes down the drain ... but, the thing is, your tissue starts to grow up against your implanted teeth and it becomes like your own teeth and there is hardly anything that ever gets under there. I have the big WaterPik unit in my bathroom, but I have a portable unit that I can put in my purse. When I travel that is the one I take .... since it is battery operated, for those of you who cannot take your snap in out at work or whatever .... you can take your Pik in the restroom and "brush" just like everyone else does. BTW - I always brushed my own teeth at work ... I could care less what anyone thought ...
You have to choose what is right for you. I knew what I didn't want - I did not want a removeable anything in my mouth ever again. I cannot believe that this temporary can get any better, but I have now been assured by someone that I met yesterday that indeed it does. I am very excited.... I am probably about a month away from being DONE!
Angel

Santee, CA

#43 Aug 23, 2010
Marion ... I had, every now and then, like "shocks" that went up into the area where the implants were. My implants were in my mouth though for over 6 mos before my snap on was in my mouth .... haha, when it was really cold outside my implants would also get cold and I'd get like achey .... weird. I'd sure have your dentist take a look at that implant - it is not unusual to get infections and if you don't get antibiotics that implant could "fail" and then you are in a big mess because they will have to install another one and here you go again ...
My locator's are all female .... what is the point of them being different? Did your dentist ever say?
Marian

New Port Richey, FL

#44 Aug 23, 2010
Angel - Thanks for your input. seeing dentist tomorrow at 2:00. Last week he noted that it was a little pink back there but we thought it was possibly due to wearing it for 4 or so days. The male was put in for stability can't imagine why else. It's the only one i have trouble with. Now i'm using a piece of rubber gripper used to open jars - just cut off
a small piece. that helps too.

My implants have been in since February and no prior infections.
Maybe it could be the denture itself. Better check it. Had NO
idea all this follow up would be required so soon.
Angel wrote:
Marion ... I had, every now and then, like "shocks" that went up into the area where the implants were. My implants were in my mouth though for over 6 mos before my snap on was in my mouth .... haha, when it was really cold outside my implants would also get cold and I'd get like achey .... weird. I'd sure have your dentist take a look at that implant - it is not unusual to get infections and if you don't get antibiotics that implant could "fail" and then you are in a big mess because they will have to install another one and here you go again ...
My locator's are all female .... what is the point of them being different? Did your dentist ever say?

Since: Oct 09

Plano, TX

#45 Aug 25, 2010
Removing an implant denture...

Beeswax. After rinsing your mouth, rub beeswax on your implant rods. Then on your dentures, put some olive oil where the rings are. Beeswax can help.

I know what you mean by "tight grip - hard to remove". My prosthodontist had to show me how to do it, because it felt welded on. Using the thumb and forefinger, grab the opposite side of the mouth between the front and back teeth, then pull down.... Angel describes the procedure in a previous post.
Marian

New Port Richey, FL

#46 Aug 26, 2010
Thommy - In the beginning did your gums ever feel sensitive.
Sometimes it burns on my front tooth. Maybe it's too soon to tell.
I'm on an antibiotic this week and just wearing my temporary denture. Not up to all the trauma of getting this thing out.
Adjusted to top temporary denture much easier than this. Don't
know if i'll ever get used to it.
Thommy wrote:
Removing an implant denture...
Beeswax. After rinsing your mouth, rub beeswax on your implant rods. Then on your dentures, put some olive oil where the rings are. Beeswax can help.
I know what you mean by "tight grip - hard to remove". My prosthodontist had to show me how to do it, because it felt welded on. Using the thumb and forefinger, grab the opposite side of the mouth between the front and back teeth, then pull down.... Angel describes the procedure in a previous post.

Since: Jan 10

Philadelphia, PA

#47 Aug 26, 2010
Marian,

I say this all the time but... consider registering on this site so that you can get updates to your postings sent to your email account so you don't miss any feedback to your posts.

Sign up here...
http://www.topix.com/member/register

By the way , MM (MerryMac) had the same burning sensation problem. She is a wealth of information ;)
Marian

New Port Richey, FL

#48 Aug 26, 2010
Angel - Dentist put me on a 10 day antibiotic. I think the plastic on both sides of the implant needs adjusting - thinning out
but dentist disagreed. He is not happy i went out of the country
to have it done although he does not say this. He had some
criticism which i reported to my implant dentist. A controversy
ensued. It is so tight i feel like i'm in a device instead of
implant supported denture. So much time has been spent on this
that i'm getting discouraged and wonder if it will ever be content
to wear it. It's been a month now.

You are just about ready for your final appt. Good for you.
Angel wrote:
Marion ... I had, every now and then, like "shocks" that went up into the area where the implants were. My implants were in my mouth though for over 6 mos before my snap on was in my mouth .... haha, when it was really cold outside my implants would also get cold and I'd get like achey .... weird. I'd sure have your dentist take a look at that implant - it is not unusual to get infections and if you don't get antibiotics that implant could "fail" and then you are in a big mess because they will have to install another one and here you go again ...
My locator's are all female .... what is the point of them being different? Did your dentist ever say?

Since: Aug 10

New Port Richey, FL

#49 Aug 27, 2010
BAnn - Took your advice and registered. My name was
already in system? Will check Merry Mac. Where in
Philadelphia my home town?
BAnn wrote:
Marian,
I say this all the time but... consider registering on this site so that you can get updates to your postings sent to your email account so you don't miss any feedback to your posts.
Sign up here...
http://www.topix.com/member/register
By the way , MM (MerryMac) had the same burning sensation problem. She is a wealth of information ;)

Since: Jan 10

Philadelphia, PA

#50 Aug 27, 2010
Hi Marian,
Originally in NE (off of Rhawn & Torresdale) but now in the burbs. Amazing how much that neighborhood has changed in just 11 years - I don't even recognize it anymore! Once my son is finished HS I'll probably move back though, just not that neighborhood - so miss the convenience of being right in the city.
Susie

Johnson City, TX

#51 Sep 3, 2010
I have now had my overdenture for 2 1/2 months and it fits terribly. I have made at least one or two visits to my dentist for new o-rings, for all the adjustments that need to be made...and it still fits terribly. He has put in the tightest o-rings, has changed the position of an o-ring. I have 4 o-rings and now when I bite down, on the right side the entire left side lifts up. Before it was just the reverse. Unfortunately, I'm away for the Labor Day Wknd and won't see my dentist until next Th, when he'll make another "adjustment" which will last for perhaps one or two days. I have no problem getting the denture out of my mouth. All I have to do is bite down on the right side and the left side pops up. This drives me crazy. I did go to a specialist for a consultation because I was so-o-o upset and he had some advise for my dentist to try. This prostadentist (sp) also said that he could probably make me a fixed bridge with the 4 implants I have right now. I only wish I could tell the dentist who made my overdenture that it's just not working...it's awful...I want a refund!!!
Then I could put the money towards the bridge!! Is there anyone out there who has an overdenture that really feels secure that, when you bite down on one side does not pop up on the other side??
Angel

Santee, CA

#52 Sep 3, 2010
My overdenture worked great - even on both sides. Either your bite is off on one side, or you have no bottom teeth to meet top and bottom together??? Why can't you tel the dentist who make the overdenture that it's not working? He is not going to kill you. You paid for an overdenture, he sold it to you, treated you and made it for you ... why are you accepting this expensive thing ... what if it were a refrigerator, would you let the salesperson intimidate you ... this dentist is just a GUY who went to school ... big deal ... you have a job and so does he ... TELL HIM IT DOES NOT FIT AND YOU WANT IT FIXED. If your implants were put into the right place in the beginning you have enough for the All on 4 fixed bridge procedure. Check the other threads in the dental forum ... you will find a wealth of information.
Susie

Johnson City, TX

#53 Sep 4, 2010
I do tell the dentist that "it's not working"!! He makes adjustment after adjustment. He replaced all the o-rings (not sure that's the correct terminology) to the tightest ones. It worked for a day or two, and then the right side easily popped when I bit down on the left. He worked on the right side, changing the position of the o-ring. That worked for 1 1/2 days and now when I bite down on the right side both left o-rings pop open whereby the denture is no longer in place. I'm not saying that I can pull the left side out of my mouth, but I can bite that side down into place.
Angel

Santee, CA

#54 Sep 4, 2010
Susie ... he's trying to "adjust" something that doesn't fit. You're right, he's trying everything because he doesn't want to eat the cost of making you a new one that actually fits. He's trying to fix a tipping table leg by sticking a wad of paper under it. IT DOESN'T FIT. He is soon going to tell you that this is the best it's going to get - and it isn't .... that denture doesn't fit - I just don't know how many other ways to tell you that. Just to let you know .... I hope that at your next appointment (and you will go again) that you will see what it is he is trying to do..... Good luck, Susie ....(BTW that is my favorite name ... many of my dolls and one of my dogs had that name, and I wanted to name my first daughter that but got voted down ....)
Susie

Johnson City, TX

#55 Sep 5, 2010
Angel.....I'm sure you're right. I do have another appt this coming Thursday. Unfortunately, I'm away and won't be home until Tues nite. This is no way to spend Labor Day Wknd. Unfortunately, because it is fitting so poorly, I find myself continually biting down on the right, and then biting back down on the left, to push it back into place. I would LOVE to know if anyone else on this site has had this experience. All of a sudden when it slips I find myself lisping. My dentist knows this site, so I'm only hoping he's reading this.

I would love to know if anyone has ever been reimbursed for a poorly fitting overdenture...to the tune of 10,000!

On my next visit, I am going to tell him that these adjustments just won't do...for what it's worth.
Angel

Santee, CA

#56 Sep 5, 2010
Not reimbursed ...... but my dentist made me a new one - THAT FIT - he actually tried to adjust one and said that was not going to last and if it didn't then the denture would not last very long .... so he just made me a new one .... It's not always that the dentist is not competent ... sometimes the mold was off to begin with ... Maybe he can fill the holes and redrill ... I don't know, but whatever he's doing is not working. It's his job to make you a satisfied customer ...
Yes, I had some bad habits with that first one ... I used to pull it down on one side and then snap it back into place because there was a small gap ... haha, funny what we find to do ...
Susie

Johnson City, TX

#57 Sep 5, 2010
So, it sounds like you did the same thing with your first one that I'm doing. Meanwhile, you got a second one that fit and you still decided to go with the one that does not come out. Have you gotten it yet?
Angel

Santee, CA

#58 Sep 5, 2010
I have my "temporary" fixed bridge. They make 2 of them - one of acrylic that they make all the adjustments to and then they make a cast from it for the permanent one. My permanent one is porcelain. I could have lived with the snap-in, but the truth is, mentally I could not handle the sunken-in face, the fact that my teeth came in and out ... all of it .... I hated everything about them. But they worked perfect and they looked fabulous. I should have had my permanent in by now, but various things have prevented me from getting it ... it is ready for it's final try in, but I have company coming in next week - for a week - so that puts me downline a couple of weeks. I am in no hurry now, because this temporary is awesome - I can't imagine that it gets better - but every one says that it does.

I am still pretty careful with this temp though ... I don't bite ice and I don't eat sticky candy - other than that ... life is good.

Since: Sep 10

United States

#59 Sep 9, 2010
Hello everyone. I am glad I found this forum, I have been looking for somebody somewhere who's actually had this stuff done so I can get some feedback. My teeth are in bad shape, a result of chronic dry mouth and lousy hygiene. Im a diabetic and I quit smoking recently. A couple of months ago, I had 6 upper extractions and I am scheduled to have the remaining upper teeth extracted in 4 days. I can barely even type this, let alone say the word 'denture'. I just cant get ok with having no top teeth. The lowers are in decent shape but I still need a couple of new crowns because of decay underneath. The thought is ghastly. I am really twisted up about it. I feel like Im going to have something amputated. Voluntarily! Or hows this for a extreme comparison: Things being different can be a matter of degrees. Dying from a raging pneumonia is a long way from having sniffle - two completely different things but really just a matter of degrees. As deranged as this might sound, it feels like Im going in for an execution (follow me here)Reduce it by degrees - let me live, take my leg. Let me keep my leg, take my arm. Let me keep my arm, take a hand. Wait, let me keep my hand, take a few fingers. Or how about this - let me keep the fingers, I'll give up my teeth. Yeah, Im having a real hard time with this.

All the horror stories Ive read here. From the food I eat never tasting right to trouble speaking to the chewing to having this freakin...thing in my mouth and my salivary glands working OT and the paste and the goop and facial changes. But it gets somewhat better after 6 months because I am supposed to get an implant supported duh duh duh denture. At least 4 implants in the front and possibly 2 in the back. But those 2 will need sinus lifts because there's been a lot of bone loss in the back. I was considering implant supported bridgework but besides being much more expensive than the 'D' thing, it all might go south in a year or 3 and I'd be out all that money. I can only afford to do this once. I was shocked at how easy it is for dentists/oral surgeons etc to say "I think you should have em all removed". I was crushed the first time I heard that.

Anyway, this is the plan. An immediate denture right after the extractions. My gums will swell so much in it, it will be hard to remove at first. Already been fitted and its paid for. 3 months to heal using 'socket preservation', not sure what that is. Then the 4 implants in front. 3-4 months for 'osseointegration'. Im not sure where along the way the decision is made about the other 2 in the back with the bone grafts. Then I will have been fitted for the snap on thingy. The extractions and the implants are being done by maxillo-facial surgical residents at the hospital (with the attending doc there). Why?$500 each, thats why. One of the hi $ prosthodontists I saw told me about that. Ive been there 4 times already, he extracted the six, by far the best experience Ive ever had with that.$550 ea for sinus lifts. Individual crowned implants are out-$ and that has a greater chance for failure. He said it is a conservative approach and Im "getting the most for the least". We talked about a horseshoe (nothing over the palate)but he would want 4 in the front AND 4 in back because the stress chewing causes. I really think Im going to cancel next week, I am not ready, but when will I ever be? Just because I can still tap my own top 5/4 broken teeth together with the lowers doesnt mean anything, I know. Ive seen 4 dentists, a prosthodontist and the surgeons; I have tried to get all the options and prices.

I hope some of you folks can offer some insight and share your thoughts/opinions. After reading this forum, I am putting the brakes on this. Sorry for going on and on.

Thank you very much.

Since: Sep 10

United States

#61 Oct 12, 2010
Thanks to everyone who provided me with feedback, information and support. It is wonderful that so many of you shared your experiences.

I feel so much better now. What a great forum!:D

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