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lori

Oldham, UK

#1 Feb 12, 2012
im wondering if anyone on here has had a top full denture (without implants) for a long time.
im curious/worried about this facial collapse. im NOT asking for info off the net or anything like that, im looking for genuine long time denture wearers personal experience good and bad.
thank you, hope to hear from people soon.
lori.

ive only had my full top denture for 2 weeks but am so happy to have a full healthy looking smile and terrified its going to end too soon.
steve

Madison, WI

#2 Feb 12, 2012
lori wrote:
im wondering if anyone on here has had a top full denture (without implants) for a long time.
im curious/worried about this facial collapse. im NOT asking for info off the net or anything like that, im looking for genuine long time denture wearers personal experience good and bad.
thank you, hope to hear from people soon.
lori.
ive only had my full top denture for 2 weeks but am so happy to have a full healthy looking smile and terrified its going to end too soon.
I did not realize you were new to wearing dentures when I responded to one of your earlier posts. Most denture wearers are very joyful when they first get their dentures. You have not worn dentures long enough to be giving advice about dentures. Your views about dentures will change after you've lived with them for awhile. They really are a pain but not the end of the world!
lori

Oldham, UK

#4 Feb 12, 2012
steve wrote:
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I did not realize you were new to wearing dentures when I responded to one of your earlier posts. Most denture wearers are very joyful when they first get their dentures. You have not worn dentures long enough to be giving advice about dentures. Your views about dentures will change after you've lived with them for awhile. They really are a pain but not the end of the world!
Can you explain why me just getting dentures means I have been ill advised? I've been given advice from my dentist over last 5 years, telling me everything from now to when I'm old but as said in an earlier post he can give me second hand advice only as he has teeth lol. Before this denture I did live with a partial one and at the moment am finding very little difference, so far I've had hardly any of the problems my dentist said I may suffer in early stages.
sorry

Lima, OH

#5 Feb 12, 2012
Lori, I don't think you'll find many long-term denture wearers on this site. The fact is that they got dentures, they came here for reassurance and advice, and they adjusted to them and moved on, as the majority of people do.

I've had an upper denture for 13 months. My face has not collapsed. The fact is that people get bone loss as they age, depending on genetics, race, sex, and size. Do dentures accelerate it? I don't know. If you google facial collapse and dentures, you get a bunch of websites of dentists trying to sell implants. If you google dentures and reduced life span, you get the same thing. How reliable that is is anyone's guess. I've never seen a death certificate with dentures as the cause of death or a contributing cause.

Surely you know someone who has dentures and has had them for a long time. Have their faces collapsed or have they aged in a normal process?

I don't know what perverse pleasure Steve gets from posting the same things over and over on a board dedicated to denture wearers. I've been here for a year, and I've never seen a post by a person with healthy teeth who wants dentures on a whim. I have seen people who might be able to save some of their teeth, and they are ALWAYS encouraged to do what they can to keep them and avoid a full denture. He's pretty pathetic.
lori

Oldham, UK

#6 Feb 12, 2012
Sorry, I appreciate your comment and I have to admit (which I hate to) the comment from Steve with regards to facial collapse did get me wondering as my dentist did tell me in many years to come it MAY be a possibility of this. Thinking about it now, thanks to you I no a few people who have had them for years and years n the only time I notice the 'collapse' was when they had the denture out for bed or cleaning. Although I did get a healthy tooth removed ( for my piece of mind due to my problems at dentists) I most def would not recomend taking healthy teeth out. Steve implied I am pro denture so shouldn't be listened to in another thread is quite off the mark. In fact I've just had my brother to my dentist. He went in convinced he wanted all top teeth removed yet it was both me and dentist who convinced him to save what teeth he could and opt for a partial instead!
Thank you for giving me a shake and stopping me worrying.
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#8 Feb 12, 2012
Lori ... rest your mind ... look at older people ... natural things happen ... their ears look bigger, their noses look longer ... it is how we age gracefully, if we are lucky enough to live. My mom was 19 when she got her dentures .... married my dad, and apparently had a great sex life since she 3 children .... I watched my dad come home every night and kiss my mom at the door. She was a beauty, and never had bad breath unless like the rest of us it was too many onions ... lol .... She died at 83 with her dentures in her mouth - she did not have facial collapse or any such horrid description. It has been almost 4 years since I had my extractions - I didn't LIKE the idea of wearing a denture and I didn't adjust to it well - but I did have implants put in and I am happy to tell you, that with all of that work done to my mouth my face hasn't collapsed. You cannot change the past - and the comments that were posted on the various threads were mean and vicious attacks that have done what I feared it would ... it chips away at what self-confidence and esteem we have built. Because you are happy with your smile and you have been very lucky to have such a good fitting denture, I can only say I am sorry that those posts were put out there. As far as being "pro denture" - that's just stupid talk . Making lemonade out of lemons is more like it - don't take that trash talk and apply it to yourself - A cute story: my widowed girlfriend who is 65 is the belle of the ball always ... you know why? The men always tell her that when she looks at them and smiles so brightly it reminds them of a school girl .. they love her. She has a top denture.
sorry

Lima, OH

#9 Feb 12, 2012
Well, Angel, you just made me go look in the mirror at my nose and ears. lololol
lori

Ayr, UK

#10 Feb 13, 2012
lol
thanks to u all for the reassurance and support. dont know why i got so freaked out when i sat and thought about it all logically. although i think im still doind amazingly better than i was and im very happy i am suffering from slight depression at the moment mainly down to other things but getting teeth out and a denture hasnt helped my state of mind. even though now im so much happier with the way i look which is a bit contradictory but just how i am at the moment.
getting dentures is a massive thing and a massive life change even if it is going well and i still liken it to a disability and similar to someone loosing a limb and getting a prothesis.(it was my gp that said that to me and i agree so much) it may not seem alot to some people and they may say im over reacting but i bet alot of people with dentures would agree to some degree.
i will stil say however i am very happy/pain free and quite comfortable with my dentures, just need to mentally adjust a bit more. on a positive note, just been doing my hair and make up and love my look in the mirror now (if i could just get rid of the wrinkles lol) i especially love wearing lipstick BRIGHT RED as it shows my smile off lovely and im now happy for people to notice my mouth! not sure i would recommend that to most of the men on here though lol.
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#11 Feb 13, 2012
'Atta girl Lori ...
I'm beginning to think the depression is normal and how we get through it or not.... I was horribly depressed and went to the med doc and he gave me an anti depres which I took for awhile ... I was mourning my teeth, and what 'was'. Once I started moving forward I with plans that would suit me (implants), the depression abated. I think that is just the way it is... some people adjust right away, some take a while - some maybe never .... but once we come to grips with the fact then life goes on. It is wonderful to hear that you are looking so good - and I love that smiling is your newest accessory!
sorry

Lima, OH

#12 Feb 13, 2012
I just saw Florence Henderson. I assume she has dentures since she did the commercial for adhesive for years. Her face hasn't collapsed, but her nose looks a bit longer.:)
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#13 Feb 13, 2012
Sorry .... you crack me up ....
Did you check her ears???
BTW .... how old is she??
sorry

Lima, OH

#14 Feb 13, 2012
I tried, but her hair was covering her ears. I'm not sure how old she is but she must be pushing 100 don't you think?
steve

Madison, WI

#15 Mar 14, 2012
Bob379 wrote:
Lori, I have to agree with you. Everything on the internet is the same pictures, same verbiage offering you a $30,000 treatment over something we all know is going to happen in our life cycle. Every hear the old saying " Long in the tooth " thats the bones receding from a natural cycle. They always give themselves a out, if you tried to take them to task.
""Tooth implants can be precisely placed in the jawbone to provide teeth but also to stimulate the jaw. If the body knows the jaws are actually supporting teeth, it may not disintegrate the minerals as rapidly, if at all.""
Thats the legal out. The operative word is " May " if you have Implants and the results are still bone loss then you're out of luck.
This the kind of stuff Steve like's to post and others feed off of.
If I was younger, I would consider it just for convenience of not having to deal with Dentures. I am a guy, I had a $14,000 face lift at 55 and new at 65, you'd never know it. You can trick mother nature, but you can't stop it.
Hey hey hey!!! Are you for real Bob? So you spent all that money on facelifts yet attacked me for getting 5 dental implants and a hybrid denture. You said I ought to pay for you to have implants because you said you can't afford them. You spent a lot more money on your facelifts than I spent on my 5 implants and hybrid denture!!! Why don't YOU pay for the rest of us on this forum to have facelifts??? Huh buddy??? If the facelifts didn't do you any good that ought to tell you something. A person who's been wearing full dentures for decades would normally need a lot more work done than just a facelift to restore their looks.
steve

Madison, WI

#16 Mar 14, 2012
sorry wrote:
Lori, I don't think you'll find many long-term denture wearers on this site. The fact is that they got dentures, they came here for reassurance and advice, and they adjusted to them and moved on, as the majority of people do.
I've had an upper denture for 13 months. My face has not collapsed. The fact is that people get bone loss as they age, depending on genetics, race, sex, and size. Do dentures accelerate it? I don't know. If you google facial collapse and dentures, you get a bunch of websites of dentists trying to sell implants. If you google dentures and reduced life span, you get the same thing. How reliable that is is anyone's guess. I've never seen a death certificate with dentures as the cause of death or a contributing cause.
Surely you know someone who has dentures and has had them for a long time. Have their faces collapsed or have they aged in a normal process?
I don't know what perverse pleasure Steve gets from posting the same things over and over on a board dedicated to denture wearers. I've been here for a year, and I've never seen a post by a person with healthy teeth who wants dentures on a whim. I have seen people who might be able to save some of their teeth, and they are ALWAYS encouraged to do what they can to keep them and avoid a full denture. He's pretty pathetic.
So you think I'm pathetic? I don't care. I'm looking out for the people who still have their own teeth. There aren't many long-term denture wearers on this site? Maybe not, but the lady calling herself Angel has been on this denture forum for many years. She is a very talented writer and has worked hard to win the trust of some of the people coming to this forum. She offers cute "words of wisdom" and cute "advice." She has built up quite a following on this forum. While I think she is knowledgeable about dental implants and dentures, she clearly represents the interests of the denture industry. She tries to intimidate, smear, or discourage anybody from posting who does not go along with her agenda of looking out for the denture industry. She thinks she is above everybody on here because her dentist featured her in an add promoting his business. The denture industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. The denture industry thrives by keeping people misinformed. Dentists ought to be required to inform all patients about what happens to them when they have all their teeth extracted and are fitted with regular full removable dentures. There are undoubtedly people visiting this forum who still have their own teeth and are considering their options - many of them have teeth which could be fixed. Most people who visit forums only read a few posts and then never return. Therefore I believe this forum should have periodic warnings about wearing full dentures. The word is not getting out. The name of this forum is Dentures Forum - not Dentures Support Forum. Most people would want to know the truth. Very few people would choose full dentures if they could imagine all the drawbacks of wearing full removable dentures. Having said that, there are some people who have no other choice.
lori

UK

#17 Mar 14, 2012
WOW steve u def have a bee in your bonnet about anyone in favour of dentures.

steve listening to you had me severely terrified and helped send me into a spiralling depression, terrified for my long term future, thankfully after seeking professional help both from my gp, dentist and other dental professionals as well as LONG TERM denture wearers i am now alot happier, still pleased with my dentures, and happy to go on now.

for me a denture was still the right option and im happy with them!
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#18 Mar 14, 2012
Lori ... squish the bee.
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Nobody can work our problems out for us except ourselves - and if we have a place to come and get a little advice or some oral support from each other, we are just plain lucky. I am glad to hear that you did seek out more extensive help - I had to also. Dentures have had a profound affect on my life - I hope I never have to wear one again. But if I do, you can be sure I will still seek out this forum for support.
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BTW - Steve is what is known as a Cyber Bully ....- to you he is like a bee .... to me is like a poisonous snake full of venom.
lori

UK

#19 Mar 14, 2012
Angel, thx, this forum has been a godsend for me!
I needed professional advice after Steve comments had me terrified but after seeking professional advice and advice from other people in the know from personal experience I'm much more confident thankfully.
steve

Madison, WI

#20 Mar 14, 2012
Angel wrote:
Lori ... squish the bee.
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Nobody can work our problems out for us except ourselves - and if we have a place to come and get a little advice or some oral support from each other, we are just plain lucky. I am glad to hear that you did seek out more extensive help - I had to also. Dentures have had a profound affect on my life - I hope I never have to wear one again. But if I do, you can be sure I will still seek out this forum for support.
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BTW - Steve is what is known as a Cyber Bully ....- to you he is like a bee .... to me is like a poisonous snake full of venom.
I am wondering if "Lori" is another one of your fake friends. You Angel is what is known as a Cyber Bully. I am looking out for the people who still have their own teeth and you know it. You Angel are a con artist. And a very disgusting one at that.
lori

UK

#21 Mar 14, 2012
steve wrote:
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I am wondering if "Lori" is another one of your fake friends. You Angel is what is known as a Cyber Bully. I am looking out for the people who still have their own teeth and you know it. You Angel are a con artist. And a very disgusting one at that.
Steve, seriously DO ONE! How bloody dare you, I came to this forum for help, I don't no anyone personally on here and quite frankly I don't care to know you now. I came here because I have an abs massive phobia with dentists, had no choice but get a denture and needed support before and after, and still do. I'm also now here to support anyone else who needs it and to tell people the truth abt wot its been like for me. Stop with the personal vendettas and either be honest and supportive in yr role on been here and give everyone else a break. Or just leave well alone. You are NOT helping anyone like this in any capacity!
Angel

El Cajon, CA

#22 Mar 14, 2012
They're all fake, Steve .... every person on every forum ... all made up .... this whole forum is a fake .... YOU are the end-all, be-all god of denture hell. You and you alone can save the millions of people who have denture problems. In fact, whoever appointed you in charge of 'looking out' for people, should put you in charge of the world .... you are so smart, so good and so kind - everyone should worship your footsteps ... I know I do.

Steve ... get a life .... a real life .... you live in DisneyLand.

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