Community Acupuncture Ukiah

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In Asia, acupuncture is traditionally practiced in a group setting with family and friends taking sessions together.
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Tatyana

Santa Clara, CA

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#3
Oct 25, 2010
 
What great news for the people of Ukiah! Now they can access affordable acupuncture and consistently.
As a fellow community acupuncturist, I want to congratulate Aracely on her new venture and encourage local community to try acupuncture and experience it's benefits. Those that are looking for affordable acupuncture clinics in their area can check out this link: http://www.communityacupuncturenetwork.org/cl...
Acupuncture works and now more folks can afford to find that out.
Tatyana Ryevzina LAc
Sarana Community Acupuncture
Albany, CA
David Lesseps

San Francisco, CA

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#5
Oct 25, 2010
 
Congratulations to Aracely. I am happy to see an affordable option for the people of Ukiah. One in which they can try acupuncture first hand and decide for themselves whether it is mystical woo woo or a viable form of health care.

I have my bias ;-)

David Lesseps
Circle Community Acupuncture
San Francisco, CA
Julia Carpenter

Berkeley, CA

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#6
Oct 25, 2010
 
You lucky Ukiah folks! Aracely is one of the finest healers I've had the honor to know, and her new community clinic will serve the people of your town so well. Why not find out for yourself the benefits of acupuncture instead of listening to those who are afraid of it and feel a need to shoot it down without direct knowledge?

Congratulations to both Aracely and to Ukiah!

Julia Carpenter
Keith Zabik

Tucson, AZ

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#7
Oct 25, 2010
 
Congratulations Aracely, Ukiah is lucky to have an affordable health care option with the opening of your acupuncture center.

To all in Ukiah - Best of Health,

Keith Zabik
Tucson Community Acupuncture
Tucson, AZ
Love Ukiah

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Oct 25, 2010
 

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gerald spezio wrote:
Another new age milking scam (even though Kriete may be sincere).
As always, it is the mystified & paying public who is the raw material.
Next comes space aliens with the stuff, psycho surgery, & the total freedom of just breathing - no food needed.
So, you idiots are says that The treatment that has been keeping me healthy for 20 years is a scam.. I bet you also say that popping our poisonous U.S. drugs are better for us, too.. Well you go for it, you stay your path and i'll stay mine... I'm going to live for another 70 years.. You can live your total of 70 years, good luck...
Val

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#9
Oct 25, 2010
 
I challenge those that are skeptical to go for a FREE treatment on Friday and see if they can maintain their skepticism.

“Cogito Ergo Doleo”

Since: Jun 07

Mendocino County

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#10
Oct 25, 2010
 
I tried MDs and chiropractors, but acupuncture is the only treatment I've found which relieves the pain I experience when my back "goes out" from an old injury. Since losing my job, I haven't been able to afford treatment when it flares up, so I just suffer through it. An affordable acupuncture clinic will be a boon to those of us who need it and can't afford it. Thank you Aracely Kriete. I'll be seeing you soon.
Mike-Lakeport

Oakland, CA

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Oct 25, 2010
 
Old Uncle Dave wrote:
I tried MDs and chiropractors, but acupuncture is the only treatment I've found which relieves the pain I experience when my back "goes out" from an old injury. Since losing my job, I haven't been able to afford treatment when it flares up, so I just suffer through it. An affordable acupuncture clinic will be a boon to those of us who need it and can't afford it. Thank you Aracely Kriete. I'll be seeing you soon.
I thought the remedy for a bad back was a joint or two. Now it's acupuncture. What next, summersaults? Make up your mind if that's possible. I only have a week to make up my mind when voting.
Mark

Canberra, Australia

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#12
Oct 25, 2010
 
Its all placebo effect as demonstrated in recent blinded trials: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4151

Articles on acupuncture: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...
Love Ukiah

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Oct 25, 2010
 
Mark wrote:
Its all placebo effect as demonstrated in recent blinded trials: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4151
Articles on acupuncture: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...
Freaken' idiots, go stick you're head in the freakin' sand. If you are afraid of needle, you should stay away from acupuncture, it's pretty scary...
My opinion

Mill Valley, CA

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#14
Oct 25, 2010
 
I think this is great and would love to give Aracely a try. The mind is a powerful thing and even if it is a "placebo effect" at least it's a legal form of treatment that doesn't affect anyone other than the patient. Unlike the other common "treatment" many people here employ.
Mark

Canberra, Australia

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Oct 25, 2010
 
Love Ukiah wrote:
<quoted text>Freaken' idiots, go stick you're head in the freakin' sand. If you are afraid of needle, you should stay away from acupuncture, it's pretty scary...
We are not afraid of needles, we just consider it a waste of time and money getting ineffective treatments that are based on nonsense, especially when they can cause harm: http://whatstheharm.net/acupuncture.html
Love Ukiah

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Oct 25, 2010
 
Mark wrote:
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We are not afraid of needles, we just consider it a waste of time and money getting ineffective treatments that are based on nonsense, especially when they can cause harm: http://whatstheharm.net/acupuncture.html
Nope, you're an i diot...
Unbelievable

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Oct 26, 2010
 
Mark wrote:
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Because I am not a sucker like you who believes in magical BS?
No, because you were born..
windy ridge

Brisbane, CA

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#23
Oct 26, 2010
 
I had Lymes disease 10 years ago...After trying the debilitating drugs of western medicine and only getting much worse.... Acupuncture healed me. If you haven't experienced/know nothing about this modality...you really need to shut up and stop displaying your ignorance! do some research...
Here is what Dr. Weil has to say:
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03065/Acupunct...
really

Santa Rosa, CA

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#24
Oct 26, 2010
 
Hey,here is an idea: If you don't like it or think it's a waste of time, don't do it! Why berate those who want to try it or say it works for them? Do you have nothing better to do?
really

Santa Rosa, CA

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#25
Oct 26, 2010
 
And here is a question for those who say "the public is paying": DO you pay your entire bill when going to the doctor??? Probably not. Who do you think really pays for the rest? Same thing.
Traveler

Sacramento, CA

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#26
Oct 26, 2010
 
First Acupuncture I had was in 1971 by a western doctor. It helped me with a genetic problem... all of my siblings have the same problem. Now 39 yrs later it has flared up and will have Acupuncture again and hope for another 30 plus years pain free.
Mark

Canberra, Australia

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#27
Oct 26, 2010
 
"Correlation does not imply causation" is a phrase used in science and statistics to emphasize that correlation between two variables does not automatically imply that one causes the other (though correlation is necessary for causation and can indicate possible causes or areas for further investigation).

The opposite belief, correlation proves causation, is a logical fallacy by which two events that occur together are claimed to have a cause-and-effect relationship. The fallacy is also known as cum hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin for "with this, therefore because of this") and false cause. By contrast, the fallacy post hoc ergo propter hoc requires that one event occur before the other and so may be considered a type of cum hoc.

The cum hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy can be expressed as follows:

A occurs in correlation with B.
Therefore, A causes B.
In this type of logical fallacy, one makes a premature conclusion about causality after observing only a correlation between two or more factors. Generally, if one factor (A) is observed to only be correlated with another factor (B), it is sometimes taken for granted that A is causing B even when no evidence supports it. This is a logical fallacy because there are at least five possibilities:

A may be the cause of B.
B may be the cause of A.
some unknown third factor C may actually be the cause of both A and B.
there may be a combination of the above three relationships. For example, B may be the cause of A at the same time as A is the cause of B (contradicting that the only relationship between A and B is that A causes B). This describes a self-reinforcing system.
the "relationship" is a coincidence or so complex or indirect that it is more effectively called a coincidence (i.e. two events occurring at the same time that have no direct relationship to each other besides the fact that they are occurring at the same time). A larger sample size helps to reduce the chance of a coincidence, unless there is a systematic error in the experiment.
In other words, there can be no conclusion made regarding the existence or the direction of a cause and effect relationship only from the fact that A and B are correlated. Determining whether there is an actual cause and effect relationship requires further investigation, even when the relationship between A and B is statistically significant, a large effect size is observed, or a large part of the variance is explained.
Mark

Canberra, Australia

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Oct 26, 2010
 
really wrote:
Hey,here is an idea: If you don't like it or think it's a waste of time, don't do it! Why berate those who want to try it or say it works for them? Do you have nothing better to do?
I was not berating those who use it, just the conmen who sell it. I am trying to educate those who use it.

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