Cholera declared an epidemic in Bicol...

Cholera declared an epidemic in Bicol, Philippines

There are 19 comments on the Examiner.com story from Jul 15, 2012, titled Cholera declared an epidemic in Bicol, Philippines. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Cases of the dangerous, gastrointestinal disease, cholera have been seen at epidemic levels in the Bicol Region according to Department of Health reports.

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Since: Jun 11

Dunstable, UK

#1 Jul 15, 2012
So much for the constant posts saying we are very clean people as we shower 3times a day. I am not trying to make a joke of this but to point out that hygiene in The Philippines must be improved. This is not a case of blaming the government the finger must be pointed at the people themselves who allow rubbish and stagnant water to accumulate near their homes. The government must of course try to detect the cause of the outbreak in case the water company is at fault with their drinking water.
If you read the history of England you will see similar problems 150 years ago but the information is out there and there is no excuse for this happening in today's world.

AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#2 Jul 15, 2012
Best view wrote:
So much for the constant posts saying we are very clean people as we shower 3times a day. I am not trying to make a joke of this but to point out that hygiene in The Philippines must be improved. This is not a case of blaming the government the finger must be pointed at the people themselves who allow rubbish and stagnant water to accumulate near their homes. The government must of course try to detect the cause of the outbreak in case the water company is at fault with their drinking water.
If you read the history of England you will see similar problems 150 years ago but the information is out there and there is no excuse for this happening in today's world.
Educating people will help get the message across. Keeping them informed that allowing garbage and stagnant water accumulate around places will end up with bad results like this. Just a little discipline is needed to keep areas clean.

There should be some fines for people who dump garbage around as this is a way to discipline people. Things have to be more strict.

Since: Apr 09

Makati, Philippines

#3 Jul 15, 2012
Best view wrote:
So much for the constant posts saying we are very clean people as we shower 3times a day. I am not trying to make a joke of this but to point out that hygiene in The Philippines must be improved. This is not a case of blaming the government the finger must be pointed at the people themselves who allow rubbish and stagnant water to accumulate near their homes. The government must of course try to detect the cause of the outbreak in case the water company is at fault with their drinking water.
If you read the history of England you will see similar problems 150 years ago but the information is out there and there is no excuse for this happening in today's world.
If Baranguy's and towns put as much organization into cleanliness, health and birth control as they do their festivals and talent contest it would save alot of lives. Sadly though this is the Philippines.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#4 Jul 15, 2012
AussiPino wrote:
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Educating people will help get the message across. Keeping them informed that allowing garbage and stagnant water accumulate around places will end up with bad results like this. Just a little discipline is needed to keep areas clean.
There should be some fines for people who dump garbage around as this is a way to discipline people. Things have to be more strict.
yeah but.... to a certain degree you shouldnt have to educate people about this garbage BS. it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know its not a good idea to piss and shiet all over the place so close to your "home".
I see kids playing in sewage drains and no grown adults stop them or rush to them to get them awayy from the canals.
Henry

Cavite City, Philippines

#5 Jul 15, 2012
pasig yankeeNY wrote:
<quoted text> yeah but.... to a certain degree you shouldnt have to educate people about this garbage BS. it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know its not a good idea to piss and shiet all over the place so close to your "home".
I see kids playing in sewage drains and no grown adults stop them or rush to them to get them awayy from the canals.
Well we Filipinos think differently. A person who is too clean will have poor immune system and will therefore be sickly. Dirt is like vaccine. Expose your children to germs so they can develop anti-bodies that can fight off bacteria and viruses.

AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#6 Jul 15, 2012
pasig yankeeNY wrote:
<quoted text> yeah but.... to a certain degree you shouldnt have to educate people about this garbage BS. it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know its not a good idea to piss and shiet all over the place so close to your "home".
I see kids playing in sewage drains and no grown adults stop them or rush to them to get them awayy from the canals.
I know that you shouldn't have to educate people on this. But, with the average Filipino mind you have to beat this garbage BS into their heads. As you have said, kids play in sewage drains and the adults don't stop them.

Laws have to be tightened in order for people to stop doing this.
ofgs

Quezon City, Philippines

#7 Jul 15, 2012
Henry wrote:
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Well we Filipinos think differently. A person who is too clean will have poor immune system and will therefore be sickly. Dirt is like vaccine. Expose your children to germs so they can develop anti-bodies that can fight off bacteria and viruses.
if what you are saying is true and i know it to be true as well, then we all know now why the billions of dollars donated to the fils has all been used to fill pockets and not to build waste water treatment plants and proper sewer systems.. RIGHT?

westerners know the saying" to eat a peck of dirt in your life", but that is a far cry from living in this century and seeing nothing wrong with open sewers, even in your largest cities.

this isnt the 1st outbreak of cholera and surely it wont be the last.

ive seen dogs eat their own shite , so im assuming thats where the flips learned it? go into your hospitals and see the results of your built in immune systems. deformities abound. 2 headed babies? 4 legged babies. all gifts from god? no.. gifts from the trash piles and sewers.

burying pampers in your yard? allowing your kids to play in the town drainage? i dont even allow my chickens to play in that filth since they started dying from it.

your logic fails and is telling.
Henry

Cavite City, Philippines

#8 Jul 15, 2012
ofgs wrote:
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if what you are saying is true and i know it to be true as well, then we all know now why the billions of dollars donated to the fils has all been used to fill pockets and not to build waste water treatment plants and proper sewer systems.. RIGHT?
westerners know the saying" to eat a peck of dirt in your life", but that is a far cry from living in this century and seeing nothing wrong with open sewers, even in your largest cities.
this isnt the 1st outbreak of cholera and surely it wont be the last.
ive seen dogs eat their own shite , so im assuming thats where the flips learned it? go into your hospitals and see the results of your built in immune systems. deformities abound. 2 headed babies? 4 legged babies. all gifts from god? no.. gifts from the trash piles and sewers.
burying pampers in your yard? allowing your kids to play in the town drainage? i dont even allow my chickens to play in that filth since they started dying from it.
your logic fails and is telling.
What made you think 2 headed or 4 legged babies are caused by bacteria? You probably read too much ads and articles about so-called medical researches sponsored by pharmaceutical firms. These companies instill fear that makes you scared enough to buy their products. They want you weak and dependent on them. We Filipinos tell them to fcuk off and let our children play in sewage drains. That way our children develop immune system the natural way and thank God they are able to fight off diseases with their own built in anti-bodies. Itís free and more healthy, truly a gift from God.
ofgs

Quezon City, Philippines

#9 Jul 15, 2012
Henry wrote:
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What made you think 2 headed or 4 legged babies are caused by bacteria? You probably read too much ads and articles about so-called medical researches sponsored by pharmaceutical firms. These companies instill fear that makes you scared enough to buy their products. They want you weak and dependent on them. We Filipinos tell them to fcuk off and let our children play in sewage drains. That way our children develop immune system the natural way and thank God they are able to fight off diseases with their own built in anti-bodies. Itís free and more healthy, truly a gift from God.
all manner of toxic chemicals run in your sewers daily. your retarded point of view is evidence enough for me.

the logic that pharmaceutical companies would produce damaging reports about their chemicals is more laughable flip non-comprehension.

more proof that flips bath daily in stupidity and only monthly in water.
i dont see where else you can go with your argument henry. just feed the kids cyanide i guess and be happy.
its more than obvious that children are not your priority. yours or anyone elses.
thumper hater

Lipa City, Philippines

#10 Jul 16, 2012
ofgs wrote:
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all manner of toxic chemicals run in your sewers daily. your retarded point of view is evidence enough for me.
the logic that pharmaceutical companies would produce damaging reports about their chemicals is more laughable flip non-comprehension.
more proof that flips bath daily in stupidity and only monthly in water.
i dont see where else you can go with your argument henry. just feed the kids cyanide i guess and be happy.
its more than obvious that children are not your priority. yours or anyone elses.
There is no effective vaccine for cholera -even pigs do not like to wallow in shite - all of those rural homes that dont have a toilet will have at least two cell-phones and a tv .Thailand has about the same rate of homes with no toilet or sewerage system - and its hard to explain when the Barangay Capt seems often to have a late model 4x4 - that vehicle could pay for a sewer system.
thumper hater

Lipa City, Philippines

#11 Jul 16, 2012
OFGS - i think you misunderstand henry- i think he is talking about drug companies that produce vaccines - some of which are not needed in many countries- German measles and polio are no longer a threat in many developed countries -but some still sell the vaccines.
I agree with his point that being too clean can be bad as far as the immune system is concerned - but that is not the same as it being ok to play in krap.

Since: Jun 11

Dunstable, UK

#12 Jul 16, 2012
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
Well we Filipinos think differently. A person who is too clean will have poor immune system and will therefore be sickly. Dirt is like vaccine. Expose your children to germs so they can develop anti-bodies that can fight off bacteria and viruses.
That's very true have eight kids, two die of disease but the six that are left are immune to everything. Things like education, good manners and politeness have no effect on them.

Since: Jun 11

Dunstable, UK

#13 Jul 16, 2012
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
What made you think 2 headed or 4 legged babies are caused by bacteria? You probably read too much ads and articles about so-called medical researches sponsored by pharmaceutical firms. These companies instill fear that makes you scared enough to buy their products. They want you weak and dependent on them. We Filipinos tell them to fcuk off and let our children play in sewage drains. That way our children develop immune system the natural way and thank God they are able to fight off diseases with their own built in anti-bodies. Itís free and more healthy, truly a gift from God.
Don't forget god is laughing at you. He teaches you natural immunity to counter his diseases. I didn't realise your god was responsible for the stagnant water in old tyres and overflowing drainage systems, I thought he gave you a clean and pleasant land.
ofgs

Quezon City, Philippines

#14 Jul 16, 2012
thumper hater wrote:
OFGS - i think you misunderstand henry- i think he is talking about drug companies that produce vaccines - some of which are not needed in many countries- German measles and polio are no longer a threat in many developed countries -but some still sell the vaccines.
I agree with his point that being too clean can be bad as far as the immune system is concerned - but that is not the same as it being ok to play in krap.
the old expression: clean enough to live in. dirty enough to be happy in?
these vaccines are still needed even in the states where many parents ignore childhood immunity shots now, due to them being from 3rd world countries. now? instances of polio and other shite popping up again.

i cant abide the attitude that living in trash and septic conditions is just fine and dandy. a wide variety of worms find their ways into kids systems just by them sitting in this filth and playing. ohh btw? flooding conditions that you see on tv and the people swimming and playing in it..? using it for washing and cooking?
hey, its useless to to argue it.

AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#15 Jul 16, 2012
Best view wrote:
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That's very true have eight kids, two die of disease but the six that are left are immune to everything. Things like education, good manners and politeness have no effect on them.
People having too many children, lack of education and social etiquette are things that keeps holding the country back. If they have less children, more adequate education and social etiquette, these basics will help move the Philippines forward. Simple goals like these, things will improve.
thumper hater

Lipa City, Philippines

#16 Jul 16, 2012
AussiPino wrote:
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People having too many children, lack of education and social etiquette are things that keeps holding the country back. If they have less children, more adequate education and social etiquette, these basics will help move the Philippines forward. Simple goals like these, things will improve.
It is hard to focus on social etiquette and education when you dont know where your next meal is coming from.But there is good news on the way -this coming year education here is getting shake up and billions more are to be spent on social issues -just hope most of the money finds its way to those in genuine need.
Watched a doco last noght - in a small village in an African state the total school roll was only about 13 - now that they provide a good free meal per day the roll has grown to 73.Carrot on a stick.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#17 Jul 16, 2012
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
What made you think 2 headed or 4 legged babies are caused by bacteria? You probably read too much ads and articles about so-called medical researches sponsored by pharmaceutical firms. These companies instill fear that makes you scared enough to buy their products. They want you weak and dependent on them. We Filipinos tell them to fcuk off and let our children play in sewage drains. That way our children develop immune system the natural way and thank God they are able to fight off diseases with their own built in anti-bodies. Itís free and more healthy, truly a gift from God.
dude Im gonna keep it clean since you have been nothing but polite but this way of thinking that you have pointed out is asinine

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#18 Jul 16, 2012
thumper hater wrote:
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It is hard to focus on social etiquette and education when you dont know where your next meal is coming from.But there is good news on the way -this coming year education here is getting shake up and billions more are to be spent on social issues -just hope most of the money finds its way to those in genuine need.
Watched a doco last noght - in a small village in an African state the total school roll was only about 13 - now that they provide a good free meal per day the roll has grown to 73.Carrot on a stick.
you wold also think its hard to make more babies when you dont know where your next meal was coming from, right???????
thumper hater

Lipa City, Philippines

#19 Jul 16, 2012
pasig yankeeNY wrote:
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you wold also think its hard to make more babies when you dont know where your next meal was coming from, right???????
Well you would think so - but peoples decision making is not always based on the consequence of todays actions - sad but true.

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