Elevated IGA from Celiac Disease Test...

Elevated IGA from Celiac Disease Test. I do not have Celiac Disease…

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#2 Apr 8, 2014
Are you seriously asking questions about a single elevated antibody on the misc?

I wouldn't care about it.

IgA is the antibody that protects your gastrointestinal tract and respiratory tract among other things.

In the medical setting I am in, we see elevated levels of IgA before someone turns up with either gluten-sensitivity or celiac disease. We tend to look at it as the body is in the initial stages of ramping up and fighting the incoming gluten - and it's doing a great job. But at some point it just isn't able to continue the 'fight' and the total levels of IgA plummet. Somewhere in there, we typically find that IgA-gliadin levels rise.

It can take many years for someone with celiac disease to actually 'show' damage in the duodenum that allows a doc to be suspicious and take biopsies that result in a diagnosis. In some cases, I've heard it takes up to 10 years. A lot could be going on during that time including the changes in IgA levels.

You might want to consider doing a gene test for gluten to see what genes you're carrying. It might give you an early idea of whether or not you're current elevated levels of IgA could be correlated with a diagnosis of celiac disease that may be made at a later date. Enterolab has a decent gene test. Take a look.

I don't know abut the IgA level, but I can say that you don't need to worry about the Hematology department phone being answered as a Cancer center. I see a hematologist because I have a bleeding disorder (totally unrelated to celiac). Hematology and Oncology are grouped together as specialties. It seems that most hematologists are also oncologists, but not all oncologists are also hematologists. Hematologists deal with bleeding and clotting problems, and also blood cancers like leukemia. I always feel a little guilty in the waiting room for my hematologist because my particular bleeding disorder, now that it is diagnosed and controlled, isn't anywhere near as serious as any cancer that the other patients may have. Hope this helps.

I was in the cancer unit for a blood disorder too.... Totally freaked out some friends who came to visit me. Lol

I don't know a lot about elevated IgA except that it can be benign, or a sign of problems. http://www.webmd.com ...lobulins?page=2. Hopefully it is an innocent thing for you. It can be a sign of SLE, RA, liver issues or cancer. Just don't lose sight of the fact that it could be just the way you are.

I would consult dr google and bring a lst of questions to the doctor, and then monitor it if you are not satisfied.

Best wishes.

If you want to keep reaching out for answers, you may consider a doctor with a specialty in Allergy, Asthma, and Immunology. If you can, get someone who is a "Fellow of The American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology (AAAAI) who has FAAAAI after their name. The only reason I know this is I have an immunodeficiency and see an immunologist who is a FAAAAI and also has a pediatric fellowship attached. Basically they handle anything wrong with the immune system whether it is low

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#3 Apr 8, 2014
levels, high levels, allergies, asthma, or anything else of the sort. If it truly is nothing, they will be the person to know.

I personally have low levels of IGA and IGG, which means I am missing a chunk of my immune system. I don't know what it means to have too much, though. But if the hematologist discharges you I would definitely seek out a consultation with an immunologist.

Oh, I will do that! I should see him at my next IVIG infusion on the 17th. Sometimes I don't get to see him but I think I didn't last time so I should see him this time definitely. I am kind of like you, I can't just let things lie if something may possibly be wrong. That led to me finally getting everything properly diagnosed so I could treat the problem, not just the sickly symptoms I had. Even if it is likely nothing I would do the same! And of course seeing an allergy specialist will help you get your allergy stuff possibly under better control so there could be a plus.

Hi there welcome to the site. Firstly all your questions can not be answered here as we are not medical professonals. Those numbers make no sense to me. I'm sure if there was anything that needed treatment your doctor would be working on it

Hello from a fellow statistician!

Following from what your doctor was saying about a bell curve, using stats look at it that way. Say we take everyone's test scores, and normalise the mean to zero. If we treat the mean as an expected value, that value has a massive standard deviation. As such you end up with a normal range within that normal distribution, which could be calculated using the T-Distribution. Now you have the statistical distribution of what's normal, and your own test result, you can use ANOVA tables to find whether your test result is statistically significantly different to the normal range, i.e. ask the question "is the two-tailed t-stat >1.96?" And the answer will be no. Normal has such a huge variance that even outside the "normal range" you're still not statistically different from normal.

In human terms, neither you or I are qualified to evaluate medical test results. That's what we pay doctors for, and the doctors say you're absolutely fine.

As to your referral, you're from the US and there is quite a suing culture over there, so even if a doctor thinks someone's fine he might refer anyone with a test result outside of normal ranges to a specialist just so in the unlikely event he is wrong it's not his responsibility. The specialist said you're absolutely fine too. Also don't forget healthcare is privately provided in the US as well so it may well be in the company's interest to run superfluous tests and make needless referrals.

You have my every sympathy for your shock at calling the specialist to find it was a cancer specialist, I'm guessing this is what kicked off your anxiety. I was genuinely ill to begin with on my journey, it was only doctors mentioning they needed to "rule out" strokes, brain tumours and other things that really ****ed my head up. My only advice is stop trying to evaluate information you don't have the necessary prerequisites to evaluate. Would you trust a hairdresser with a laptop with your investment decisions? Would you trust a doctor with google to represent you in court? No? Then don't trust a statistician with google to professionally evaluate your health, just because that statistician is you.

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#4 Apr 8, 2014
Now this I am VERY interested in, I tested high for serum igA level too, this was after testing high for Vitamin B12 on 3 different blood tests without supplementation..

I also saw a Hematologist about these readings because as I am sure you have read one immunoglobin being high might indicate multiple myeloma....however that is a fake high caused by paraprotein, I got informed that that was also tested with the other immunoglobins shortly after and was fine.

The hematologist found nothing wrong with me by the way, felt my nodes, spleen and tapped my whole body lol then ran lots of blood testing but all was clear and fine and I was discharged.

I also like you had a celiac panel done, but that was negative just the iga alone high.

Have you tried going gluten free? There is a lot of research going on at the moment into gluten intolerance as opposed to celiac and you could fit that catergory. The only way to know would be to cut out gluten for a few months and see how you feel. Going gluten free has helped me a lot in terms of pain and anxiety, and digestion of course.

I was tested for celiac disease but my test was negative, but I tried gluten free diet anyway and it made a huge difference to how I felt

Happy to help where I can. I'm not expert, but I have suffered from anxiety all my life and was recently diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue. I have suffered from pretty much every symptom out there including aches and pains, fatigue, irritability, brain fog, severe anxiety, unable to digest food etc etc. I have been tested for celiac and the test was negative, but I decided to change my diet anyway after reading a lot about it and how diet changes have helped many people. I'm pretty much on a primal/paleo style diet now and it has helped me so much. I wouldn't go back to eating the way I did before. I haven't found doctors to be very helpful as they don't know about a lot of this stuff and certainly aren't experts in terms of nutrition. I have found the Perfect Health Diet book to be a huge help. Going gluten free is definitely a good start. That is what celiacs are told to do - they must avoid anything with gluten in it as it attacks their bodies. So I guess eating what celiacs eat and avoiding gluten are one in the same in that respect. There is hidden gluten in a lot of processed food, so you have to be really careful. Good luck and feel free to stay in touch if you want to keep discussing as I'm pretty passionate about this stuff after finding it helped me so much.

I had a lot of symptoms including dizziness, visual disturbances, pains in my upper abdomen and back, muscle spasms, nausea, bloating, pins and needles, low blood sugar. Chest pains the pain got so bad I ended up in a and e a few times! I also used to feel very tired and used to fight sleep during the day at work when I stopped gluten most of it stopped although I have Ibs so still have some issues I also felt a lot more alert. Hope this helps

I don't think its a "false high" I mean in the case of Myeloma its a false high because its a cloned immunoglobin but as you are clear of Myeloma like me it isnt the case.

I have kind of put this to one side personally over the past few months but I am interested in this answer too.

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#5 Apr 8, 2014
I am unsure if it is linked to celiac disease, especially since we both have had clear celiac blood tests. But the other abnormal test found in me is Vitamin B12 was also high, I was tested for most things that cause that too and again nothing was found.

B12 is also absorbed via the small intestine, where celiac disease happens.

I sometimes get lower abdominal cramps, that can last for hours to almost a whole day which seem to be wind related but again in the area of my small intestine.

other so far unexplained symptoms I have are:

muscle pain/fatigue
pins and needles
high blood pressure

I am going to try to see my dr again 2moro, to talk over this yet again but one test I want is an MMA urine test to see if I have some kind of functional B12 defiency.

Going Gluten free seems like quite hard work, but maybe its worth a try?

You know these aren't "unexplained" right? These are the classic tell-tail physical signs of severe anxiety, especially when grouped together.

But "anxiety" isn't an explanation, it's just a word for a group of symptoms. I think the original poster and a lot of others like myself are interested in understanding the root cause, which is something doctors are usually unable to help with.

Astrongtower - The book I have is called The Perfect Health Diet, by Paul and Shou-Ching Jaminet. It explains a lot of this stuff and what you can do about it.

Well personally I think there's two aspects. Firstly, depression. My doctor suggested I was depressed and this seemed utterly obtuse. Then I took the NHS depression test, then every other online test, and every single one told me I was "severely depressed". For me, scary symptoms of what was then a genuine (but non-serious) health concern kicked all this off, and I understand it is well documented that those with depression can slip into severe anxiety following a traumatic event.

In terms of the symptoms of anxiety, I think these are generally well understood. Certainly the ones in the quote above are.

However the reason anxiety manifests in the first place, I think, is rooted in the gut. There's a massive correlation between GERD and anxiety, just as there is with ME/CFS, the physical symptoms of which are pretty much identical to anxiety. I recently read a book written by one of the members of PheonixRising called Autoimmune: the Cause and the Cure which explains a hypothesised connection between digestive issues and various autoimmune illnesses and how to overcome them. I've altered my diet

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#6 Apr 8, 2014
accordingly the last week and feel a lot better. But I am genuinely suffering a post-viral illness as well as the anxiety, so perhaps this isn't relevant to the majority on here, but it's certainly worth a read for anyone.

Yes, I totally agree with you there about the auto-immune stuff and the core of health being with our guts. There is a very strong brain/gut connection and they both effect each other - so anxious feelings can bring on digestive problems and vice versa. It's very interesting as well as all the stuff they are now finding out about gut bacteria. The book you read sounds interesting and very similar to a lot of the stuff I have been reading lately. YOu would probably enjoy reading The Perfect Health Diet also as it looks at all the actual scientific evidence for nutrition and how it can cause or prevent disease and comes up with a diet based on that, which I'm pretty much following. There is also the GAPS diet which is recommended for people with auto-immune conditions and aspergers and autism etc, and is also helpful for people with IBS. Lots of info out there if you're prepared to look huh!

Well this book is great as it's split into two parts: first the science and then the diet. I know very little about science but I know quite a bit about stats, and I have to say the relationships hypothesised in the book definitely stand up in terms of the maths.

All very interesting! I do firmly believe that "normal" diets these days are bad for you, a few years ago before my daughters were born I wa sin the best shape of my life through eating better choices, like quinoa, rice, sweet potatoes instead of pasta, chips.

I have not read these diets you have suggested yet but I assume they are similar, no wheat? no hydro fats?, no coffee?, and more caveman style?

I need to get myself on track diet wise again somehow, there was a period of about 3-4 days when I didn't eat gluten and went out for sunday lunch, after eating that I went straight to tired and headache within 30 mins of finishing it.

as i said above I was negative for celiac.

I will report back again later because I have made an appointment to talk to my doctor again on this subject, about the iga and b12 levels and about the likes of cfs/me, sle, autoimmune problems. The b12 one interests me a lot at the moment because I have had 3 blood tests show levels of 800-900 when the range is 300-600ish. I do not take b12 supplements, any multi vit or even eat cereals that have added vitamins, and practically all causes of high b12 have been ruled out so its a mystery.

Although on some pages like pheonix rising I have seen it mentioned that the cause could actually be a functional b12 problem, the body not being able to absorb and use the b12 and it keeps getting exported back into the blood.

I have tried mentioning this to my doctors but have been refused tests to check this so far, one test that I know of is MMA urine test. or there is blood testing for the active form of b12 rather then the standard blood test which is active and non active forms.

I still believe that the b12 and iga results are linked, and most likely linked to the gut somehow.

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#8 Apr 8, 2014
1. Get the test results for all these tests from the doctor.
2. Go online and find out what tests they are SUPPOSED to do for celiac disease. There are some tests, like elevated IgA, which can indicate celiac disease but may indicate other problems. There are some tests, however, that are more specific to celiac disease and if they are negative it makes it less likely (but not impossible) that you have celiac disease.

But what many doctors don't know (like, you wouldn't even believe how many) is that for most of the testing, a negative test for celiac disease does not mean much. There's something like a 20% false negative rate, which is why there are a number of tests done altogether. So the elevated IgA, even with okay tests results otherwise, IS a concern. Especially if it's been on both blood tests - something is going on.

That doesn't mean it's celiac disease, but yes, I would be looking for what can cause elevated IgA, honestly. Sometimes it can be inflammation or other issues in the gut, or recurrent infections, for example (here are a number of doctors responding to what it means, actually. You'll notice that some think it's fine, like your doc did, while others know of possible problems (like my doc did, when I had this. And had a problem, actually). https://www.healthtap.com/topics/what-do ...)

3. A lot of specialists work at cancer centers and seeing them doesn't necessarily mean that they're seeing you for cancer. I had the same issue with my endocrinologist who works at a cancer center and it freaked me out to realize that's where I was sent, too. I think most people would be a bit concerned to reach the cancer center, seriously.

4. Your endo is very celiac ignorant - the specialist who deals with celiac disease is a gastroenterologist. Not a hematologist. Hem docs do blood. Celiac disease is a disease of the gut. You'll need to see a gastro to get more testing for celiac disease, if warranted.

Some experts in celiac disease believe that elevated IgA can be indicative of non-celiac gluten intolerance. this sensitivity/intolerance has no verified test for it, yet, but like I said, some doctors believe this may be related. Gluten free diet is the only way to test that, but once you go gluten free the celiac testing becomes invalid until you've been on gluten again for a few weeks, so you might want to take that into consideration.

From what I just skimmed off the net, it sounds like IgA (immunoglobin A) is just an immune system protein secreted by mucous membranes. It could certainly be linked to your allergies (stop living with pets if you're allergic to them).

And the cancer center thing is because your hematologist works in a cancer clinic, as most cancer patients need a hematologist as well as an oncologist.

This could easily be a one-off result due to something you have some into contact with in the air (allergens or pathogens), or something similar and transient upsetting your stomach.

The haematologist might choose to do a few more tests just to make sure it's nothing more serious, but it's not likely to be anything to worry about.

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#9 Apr 8, 2014
High IGA can be indicative of autoimmune diseases such as Rumatoid Arthritis or Celiac disease (can be high, normal or low in celiac). Also it is high in multiple myeloma and a few other things. See here: http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-...munoglobulin...

I would get checked for RA and see a gastroenterologist to get a biopsy to check for celiac. Blood tests are often unreliable. Also, celiac can develop at anytime the gene turns on (once on, always on). That is why experts recommend that if you are at risk, to get screened every 2-3 years or if symptoms develop.

Also, if the testing is done is negative for celiac, then I would try to go gluten free for a trial to see if it helps you feel better. just stay on gluten for the testing or else it will definately be negative.

I say to try going gf bc I've seen many people at risk for celiac who do much better off gluten. It's worth a try. Gluten can cause terrible inflammation and joint pain.

Good luck!

And beware, most doctors are very misinformed about celiac disease!

IGA can be a sign of infection, usually mucosal membranes. Gut infection maybe?? can also be from sinus infections too or chest infection, even eye infection.

Dr's probably ignoring it as they dont know how to treat it, only treat something like that when its low.

The problem with specialists is that they only know their speciality so anything outside of that they dont see alot of??

Sometimes its best to see a good gp who has been around awhile, they have generally seen alot bigger variety of conditions then a specialist, if that makes sense.

Antidepressants can be helpful but also given out to shut people up to, can make one feel better about feeling like shit, not a bad thing but not really getting to the issue.

IgA is immunoglobulin A. It is one of the groups of proteins that is part of our immune function.

Your results for tTG IgA, tTG IgG and Endomyosial antibodies indicate that you do not have Celiac Disease. They are results for specific antibodies that relate to Celiac.

Total IgA should always be tested when testing for Celiac Disease because some people have very low total IgA and that makes the results of the antibody test unreliable for those people.

Elevated IgA may or may not turn out to be important, you can only find that out by being tested further which is what the haemotologist will do. A haemotologist can be thought of as a blood specialist and a

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#10 Apr 8, 2014
lot, but certainly not all, of what they do is in the area of cancer so it is not unusual that you would find one working at a cancer centre.

You should be treated respectfully whether this result turns out to be something that needs treating or whether the doctor does decide it is just normal for you. It is always worth ruling out problems.

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#11 Apr 9, 2014
Anyone have any new information on high level of IGA when everything else is perfectly normal?

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#13 Jun 6, 2014

Ok I am not sure if this helps or not, but I no longer have the weird feeling in my left torso, that is gone.

The only feeling that I have left is the weird sensation right on the left side of my nose and possibly sometimes below my left eye.

It comes and go.

If I put an eye patch on my left eye I do not feel the sensation. So I am thinking it is eye strain or that it is just pressure from the patch distracting the other sensation.

I just went for a walk and I really didn’t feel it. So I think it might only come when I look down at the computer screen or watch TV.

I mean how are you suppose to know when you need glasses? I mean I can still read the words but is it just harder for me to do so now?

I recently moved a very heavy flat screen and put it on my shoulder/back, have been studying a lot by looking down and on the computer, and have been watching TV until like 4 in the morning sometimes.

I think this might be related to my Shoulders or middle back or upper neck but I am not sure. Can a pinched nerve affect facial muscles?


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