Gendicine
val jones

Middlesbrough, UK

#22 May 26, 2007
my e-mail v.jones4@ntlworld.com
anthony

Singapore

#23 Jun 11, 2007
I was told that you need not to China for Gendicine. The person I got in touch with at www.sibiono.com said you can purchase Gendicine directly from Sibiono. She said there's only one kind of Gendicine so there's no problem of knowing what to get. She said however that you had to seek your oncologist's permission before buying.
Rustem

Yildiz, Turkey

#24 Jun 27, 2007
selge wrote:
s there anyone who benefits gendicine
Ben sıze bu ılacı bulabılır ım. Ben ınden kendım getırdım ve 6 şişes&#3 05;nı size satabılır ım....... ruslan7@hotmail.com
Rustem

Yildiz, Turkey

#25 Jun 27, 2007
Dear Selge
İ can halp you to fınd gendıcıne here in İstanbul

ruslan7@hotmail.com
Angelique

Parramatta, Australia

#26 Jul 7, 2007
My husband has metastaic Melanoma and his tumours are huge. He is meeing with a dr Spall and Autralian who practices hyperthermia treatment in Shanghai, Gen is alos supposed to be used as well. We will find out more on the 10 July. Will post more infor after seeing him. My husband has been given two months to live. He has had ops and chemo and noting has worked . This is our last hope and we are taking it if the doc will have him.
allyson

United States

#27 Jul 7, 2007
Cgarlene wrote:
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I have ovarian peritonial cancer 3C. It spread to all the abdomenn. In yiur experience would that Chinese drug have any effect.
Appreciate your candid reply.
Charlene
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Elaine

Flushing, NY

#28 Jul 17, 2007
Hi Oscar, did you get any replies? My monther has lung cancer, and we would like to try Gendicine.
oscar wrote:
If anyone has experience about the gendicine please advice me serelltd@yahoo.com
Volker Hetzer

Augsburg, Germany

#29 Jul 18, 2007
I'm not sure whether you people know that the Mrs Romans (the gendicine showcase patient) cancer did return after two years.
Unfortunately the science magazine article costs ten dollars, but here is the link:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/31...

Lots of luck.
Volker
Nano

Aksaray, Turkey

#30 Jul 19, 2007
We are going to china for my fahters treatment in 10 days. I have seen one person that is cured and personally talked to him. He had stomach as primary. Liver and bones secondary. I cannot say he is totally cured but he is much much better and has a chance now. The deal is that Chines hospitals asks for reports before they take you as patient. They go over your reports for a few days and reply you. Total treayment costs min 25000 USD. This is for 2 months. If needed they ask you to stay for another 2 so on... The main doctor's name is Dr. Li Dinggang. I cannor give you the phone number becuase this site would let me but you can search for "bejing haidan hospital" and get the phone number. Sorry for my bad english I hope I could help.
Tim

Liverpool, UK

#31 Jul 25, 2007
stevie wrote:
<quoted text>I have been here with my wife at the Beijing haidian hospital with my wife for 10 days now and i could not disagre with you more. The nurses nd doctors are the most attentive and caring people we have ever experienced(my wife was under the care of private hospitals in London). They also have all the facilities that the best hospitals in London have and more. They actually prescribed the same chemo drug to my wife as the doctors suggested in London, only they also gave her other things to strenghten her and control her pain.
I wonder if your experience in tainted by bad results or you are making it up as you go along. At least here the doctors do not treat patients in a two dimensional blinkered way as they do in the west. We hope to have positive results and if we don't our experience of the care and attention here has been very very positive.
Steve, I'd love to talk to you more about your experience for a website I'm helping to set up about cancer treatments. if you want to talk about it, could you contact me at timothy.dowse@gmail.com I hope your wife's treatments went well.
Mike Broggio

London, UK

#32 Jul 26, 2007
Is this treatment still available in Europe?
Can you give me some details.Any Chinese doctors in the UK?
Roman wrote:
Hello,
we are a non provit company in Germany, and we work close to China and Prof. Dr. Li Dinggang Haidian Hospital who has a lot of expirience with gendicine. We are able to have the treatment in Europe with Medical Doctors instructed by Dr. Li Dinggang. Look for www.cancergentherapy.info , you will find a lot of Information and Interviews with patients. Look out German Page for new Blog from Toni, actualy in China for cancer treatment.
elizabeth

Ancaster, Canada

#33 Jul 27, 2007
stevie wrote:
<quoted text>I have been here with my wife at the Beijing haidian hospital with my wife for 10 days now and i could not disagre with you more. The nurses nd doctors are the most attentive and caring people we have ever experienced(my wife was under the care of private hospitals in London). They also have all the facilities that the best hospitals in London have and more. They actually prescribed the same chemo drug to my wife as the doctors suggested in London, only they also gave her other things to strenghten her and control her pain.
I wonder if your experience in tainted by bad results or you are making it up as you go along. At least here the doctors do not treat patients in a two dimensional blinkered way as they do in the west. We hope to have positive results and if we don't our experience of the care and attention here has been very very positive.
Hello Stevie,
I really hope your wife does well..It's heartbreaking for relatives sometimes harder than for the patient.
My comment is that I have seen no evidence , either first hand or in clinical trials, that Gendicine can cure or help metastic cancer.
I was at the Haidian with my Mum ..she's well now and I really don't know if Gendicine did any good. Dr Li was advocating just using Gendicine with chemo when the clinical results for that approach was very poor. The advice was contradicted by a head and neck specialist in Beijing who advocated immediate surgery and I took my mum to Australia for surgery . If she'd taken Dr Li's advice I have no doubt that she would now be dead.
I completely agree UK hospitals ..especially London ,and even private are awful.
we met some wonderful people in China , sadly none survived. Others should never have been told to go as they had pre existing conditions that meant that they couldn't take the drugs anyway.
My personal belief is that Gendicine may possibly do some good for some localsied cancers but its efficacy for systemic usage is unproven.
I really hope it works for your wife ..take care, and best wishes.
elizabeth

Ancaster, Canada

#34 Jul 27, 2007
Elif Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Eliz should I assume you had benefited from the treatment? Elif.smith@aero.bombardier.com
Hello Elif,
My mum had Gendicine for localised mouth cancer .. I really don'tknow if it did any good, I think perhaps it did but only with surgery. If she had been using just Gendicine it would not have stopped the cancer spreading ..please feel free to contact me eliz_murphy@hotmail.com if I can give you any more information ..I'm in Burlington just down the road
elizabeth

Ancaster, Canada

#35 Jul 27, 2007
Julijana Ristov wrote:
Hi Elizabeth,
I am writing in hope that you may be able to help me with your experience with the Gendicine.
My sister has metastic cancer on stomak liver bones and we are trying to find if Gendecine can help at all?
What was your experience, Have you met any other people who had this medicine?
Hello Julijana,

I'm so sorry to hear about your sister. I haven't seen any evidence that Gendicine helps metastic cancer. I wish I could be more positive.
luke

Freehold, NJ

#37 Sep 10, 2007
does anyonr know if this would work for metastisized testicular cancer which has transformed into malignant teratoma in the spinal column?
Flo

Cheltenham, Australia

#38 Sep 26, 2007
Angelique wrote:
My husband has metastaic Melanoma and his tumours are huge. He is meeing with a dr Spall and Autralian who practices hyperthermia treatment in Shanghai, Gen is alos supposed to be used as well. We will find out more on the 10 July. Will post more infor after seeing him. My husband has been given two months to live. He has had ops and chemo and noting has worked . This is our last hope and we are taking it if the doc will have him.
Dear Angelique,

How is your husband? Did you end up going to Shanghai to get treatment for him? Did he receive a course of Gendicine? You posted your message in July, so a lot could have happened since then. I hope that the treatment has been able to help your husband. I am very keen to learn of your experiences with Gendicine and would be very grateful for any information you can give me. My email is: floriennel75@gmail.com
Tine Denmark

Copenhagen, Denmark

#39 Oct 4, 2007
Thank you all for your very interesting comments.
My husbond (34 years old) has a pancreatic cancer with metastasis to the backbone. All conventional treatments have been tried without succes. We consider going to haidian Hospital next week. I would very much like to get in contact with someone who has allready been there and who could give some advice about if we should go or not.
Tine
Elizabeth

Ancaster, Canada

#40 Oct 4, 2007
Tine Denmark wrote:
Thank you all for your very interesting comments.
My husbond (34 years old) has a pancreatic cancer with metastasis to the backbone. All conventional treatments have been tried without succes. We consider going to haidian Hospital next week. I would very much like to get in contact with someone who has allready been there and who could give some advice about if we should go or not.
Tine
Hello Tine,
I'm so sorry to hear of your husband's illness, and tragically so young. I was at the Haidian with my Mum last year and shortly after us a lady with metastic Pancreatic cancer visited. Unfortunately she along with the others who had metastic cancer did not survive. I would be very careful about going there..Can you speak to a Pancreatic specialist in China ..Shanghai is probably more Westernised and they have access to Gendicine so would immediately know if it works or not.,I don't know anyone with metastic cancer who benefited. I'm sorry I can't be more positive I really wish I could say that I went there and it was great. You may want to look at DCA a cancer fighting drug...its now being trialed in Canada by the state hospitals and was discovered by chance by a cardiologist who was testing it on mice and noticed it caused lung tumours to shrink. The Canadian Government is now funding human trials because the pharmaceuticals companies aren't interested because its already available and is very cheap. You can buy DCA very cheaply and it is appears to be safe - There is also a gene therapy trial for Pancreatic cancer at MD Anderson in Texas ..I'm sure they would speak with you if you called ..the Dr there is called Hung and there is a company in the UK doing gene therapy ..I wish you and your husband all the luck in the world
Cindy Hao

Medina, WA

#41 Oct 9, 2007
I am a science reporter and wrote about Gendicine with my colleague Jerry Guo last year. Our story came out in Science, 24 November 2006:

CHINESE GENE THERAPY: Splicing Out the West?
Summary: Chinese researchers have been the first to put cancer gene-therapy products on the market, but critics question the data behind the success stories.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary...

Gendicine's Efficacy: Hard to Translate
Summary: An English-language review of Chinese gene-therapy clinical trial results has been cited at least a dozen times by experts as definitive, but some say the findings are hard to evaluate, and others question the quality of the data.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary...
Florienne

Cheltenham, Australia

#42 Oct 11, 2007
I am doing some background research on Gendicine. Is there anyone here from Australia who has been to China to receive treatment, or who intends to go? I would be very interested to learn of your experiences in China and whether Gendicine helped you. My email is: floriennel75@gmail.com.

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