Stress all day, gnash all night

[polypus]

"Why would the inventor tell YOU its a worthless piece of plastic????"

he said it was a worthless piece of plastic because it is a worthless piece of plastic. it's value is in what it does not what it is. write him an email and ask him yourself if you don't believe me.

[polypus]

in further response to Fay's extremely rude attempt to imply that i am a liar, here is the quote from my email correspondence with Dr. Boyd, inventor of the nti:

me: "i seem to remember reading on line that
thedevice itself costs $190, is that correct?"

doc: "The neurology clinic I work at charges $500. The device itself, before retrofitting and adjusting is a worthlesspiece of plastic."

before one goes about making indirect and cowardly accusations one should do one's research. i would be very surprised if the nti device costs more than $1 to manufacture. i challenge anybody on this forum to prove otherwise.

[Nathan]

HI there,

This is a question for POLYPUS. I have had abruxism prob for years tried EVERYTHING mouth guards, NTI , hypno, muscle relaxants etc no real help. Seen your idea of a nose plug , does it really work ,is it still wotking for you ? If so its sounds amazing ,but just sounds to simple!!! Please let me know if you are still finding it helpful!!!
thanks nathan

[jferro]

I'm not usually one to blog but I've had bruxism for many years and began using a device called Bruxcare probably 8 or so years ago. While it's not perfect, it has been very helpful for me. I end of having to replace about once per year do to excessive use. Just thought I'd throw it out as an option.
http://www.bruxcare.com/

[RDeMars]

My front two teeth are loose from grinding and clenching at 26 years old- has anyone had this problem

[John]

I've been using the NTI for abt 2 weeks. A couple things I've noticed: 1) it cuts into my gum so I've had ulcers (which may be fixable with an adjustment) and 2) I feel like I still have the urge to grind (probably bc the stress hasn't gone away) but the device keeps me from doing so. So I feel kinda tense when I wake up in the morning. Does the grinding actually release stress so if you're wearing the NTI, it prevents that release so you feel tense? Just wondering if it causes another problem (tension) while addressing another (grinding).

[Alexander Rivkin MD]

I happened upon this board because I've been trying to figure out how to let people know that there's a way to stop bruxism and really relieve TMJ and headache pain. For the last 8 months I've been injecting precise doses of Botox into the chewing muscles and my patient's bruxism (some of which had been going on for over 10 years) disappeared completely overnight. I'm not trying to advertise for myself here - there's other doctors doing this and its a simple procedure. Just make sure the doctor doing the procedure is experienced in it and is not just experimenting on you.
The Botox is injected into the masseter muscle, the dose is about 20 units per muscle. It does not interfere with chewing, smiling or anything else, because it is a relatively small dose, but big enough to stop the cycle of bruxism. It doesn't hurt. It is not covered by insurance usually, but you never know - submitting a claim is always a good idea.
The price usually winds up being about $400 to $500 and the effect lasts for 3 to 4 months. You may not need to do it more than a few times to break your body of the habit of bruxism. I've treated about 100 patients so far, and the results are always fantastic.
I have more info on my website: http://www.westsidemedicalspa.com/tmd-treatme...
or there's a video of me doing the procedure on ABC news here: http://www.westsidemedicalspa.com/press.html
its the second one from the top.
I'll be glad to answer questions.
cheers
Alexander Rivkin MD

[mashed teeth]

Hi polypus, im very intrigued by ur nose plug idea i currently have a hard bite guard lower which since being fitted correctly (first dentist was a joke) helps.

Reading ur posts out loud to my missus she was as interested as me (i have the pleasure of sleeping at night she puts up with me), she suggested the idea of ear plugs used in the nose the foam expanding ones then u wont have to look like a extra from a sci-fi movie (i'm going to try this)

[Charles]

I have found some help in these comments. The solution that I have found for a noseplug is a band-aid that is not too big. It works great, does not come off and is disposable. I hope this helps, I have finally found relief!!

[Carla]

I found this site for night guards. I'm considering ordering one, has anyone tried this service?

http://www.customnightguard.com

[unimportant]

The notion that the prefabricated portion of the nti is worth about $1, and that it is "a worthless piece of plastic" is basically irrelevant.

It is the same as saying that a $3 valve, or what-have-you, is worthless. It *is* fairly worthless until your mechanic installs it in your car's engine. And yes, often times that installation will cost a lot of money.

I had my nti made for about $250, and it took over an hour to have it fitted and adjusted. I have had it for 5 years, and my teeth and muscles are MUCH happier because of it.

What is the problem with paying for someone's expertise and knowledge?

polypus wrote:

in further response to Fay's extremely rude attempt to imply that i am a liar, here is the quote from my email correspondence with Dr. Boyd, inventor of the nti:
me: "i seem to remember reading on line that
thedevice itself costs $190, is that correct?"
doc: "The neurology clinic I work at charges $500. The device itself, before retrofitting and adjusting is a worthlesspiece of plastic."
before one goes about making indirect and cowardly accusations one should do one's research. i would be very surprised if the nti device costs more than $1 to manufacture. i challenge anybody on this forum to prove otherwise.

[dont go anymore]

polypus wrote:

i almost went for the NTI but because of the price versus risk of not working i declined. the actual device is a worthless piece of plastic, the guy who invented the NTI told me so himself btw. so the cost of $500-$700 that the dentists ask is purely for the half hour that it takes to fit it. that means that they are making over $1000 dollars an hour. what does that say about these people?

it says whats known. after cleaning, the dentist comes and pokes around my mouth, feels for oral cancers. the exam (not the cleaning) charge?$85. the time- literally 2 minutes and 24 seconds-(i hit my stopwatch). do the math-$2,125 per hour.
they say dental health is important because of bacteria with heart disease, etc. yet- they are outside the "health care reform" movement- so the general population cant afford it.

[jeremy]

I use to grind my teeth, I joined www.cureforbruxism.com a couple of months ago. Some of the ideas are known but some of them really helped me out...

cheaper then a $500 mouth guard anyway!

[polypus]

hello fellow bruxers,

i just found a product on amazon which looks promising. i am about to order it and will post back here when i have tried it. it's called "The Miracle Ball Method: Relieve Your Pain, Reshape Your Body, Reduce Your Stress". if you click on view all customer reviews and then do a search for 'tmj', 4 very happy tmj sufferers have reviews you can read, one of them claiming a cure after a single use. anyway hope it works for me, and will let you all know.

ciao,
_c

[esteban]

Hi there Polypus,

Please give a feedback on your purchase.

Cheers

[sad_bruxer]

Hi guys, anyone tried the ebook by Charles Harrison??

Does it work?

I hope ppl who work for this site kindly refrain from pretending to be happy customers.

http://www.easybruxismcure.com/...

[Carrie]

I've been wearing an NTI for about two years. I grind and clench so much, my dentist has to "build" up the bottom portion of the NTI which keeps my teeth separated every 6 months or so where I grind it off. The NTI is nice and small and prevents my teeth from further chipping and wear, but I grind and clench just as much as before the NTI. I am very frustrated that I do this, and would like to stop. I don't think it's stress, just a habit I've had for at least 30 years. More often, in the morning my jaw is locked shut for awhile, and I'm getting more concerned.

[pik]

I also would like to know if anyone has used the book of this Charles Harrison, found no comments anywhere.

[pik]

amazing that all the 3 google ads that appeared now to me point to the Harrison book...you find it everywhere, with many different domains, he? made a massive advertisement...perhaps too much ? I am afraid is very easy to cheat in offering solutions to problems like this.

[James]

polypus, you seem to be the most experienced with bruxism. I have been grinding my teeth ever since i was 10. I'm 20 now and have used several mouthguards, including the NTI, which as you said is nothing more than worthless plastic. Those who dont believe him, try it out to yourself and see how worthless it is, if anything it made my grinding worth. Polypus your last post was several months ago and on that post you said you might be on to something... have you finally figured it out?