Do any of you feel a flutter or a pul...

Do any of you feel a flutter or a pulse in a facial muscle?

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Brian

Seattle, WA

#1 May 11, 2009
So, I've been experiencing headaches and ear-ringing for the last 9 months owing to bruxism I do while sleeping. Strangely, it appears to me that I only brux while I'm dreaming; at least, whenever I wake up in the middle of the night owing to a headache, it's always in the middle of a dream.

Anyhow, last night, after being woken up in the middle of the night by a headache, I spent several hours trying to get back to sleep, and while doing so, I think I made an interesting discovery.

I've been noticing for the last several months (most of the time of my symptoms) that when I'm relaxed or getting ready for bed, I'd start feeling my muscles pulse on the left side of my face. Initially, I thought it was the masseter only (I felt it in the middle of my cheek), but last night I found it was also in my succinator (I think that's the name of the muscle--it's near the lips) and also near my jaw joint. The pulsing would sometimes happen fast- say 2 beats/sec. Other times it would be slower, say 1 beat ever 3-4 sec.

While I was drifting off, I was trying to relax my facial muscles, but with the pulsing happening, I found it was a bit difficult to tell whether I was relaxed or clenched in those muscles. I then put my bedsheet over my face, and I could feel my muscles slightly and slowly moving even though I wasn't consciously moving them at all!

So: my realization (guess), which I hope leads me to a way to treat this, is that I think the fact that my muscles are involuntarily pulsing is confusing my systems into not knowing whether or not I'm relaxed, and it's generating the clenching behavior that is causing my bruxism.

I also made another discovery which I want to test: I found that if I put my fingers near the places where I felt flutter and pushed lightly, it seemed to stop the involuntary clenching and unclenching of my jaw. I think it's because my brain now had a reference point to compare to and it helped it realize what my relaxed state should be.

Along the lines of the theory that I need a reference point to help my brain figure out my jaw clench state, I'm guesing I don't brux while I'm awake because the pulsing is very faint, and I may have enough other stimulus for my brain to work out whether my jaw is clenched or not.

So: Now to my questions. Has anyone else had this particular symptom? I'm hoping that if I can either stop the nerve flutter altogether or train my brain to ignore it (maybe making some appliance I can wear to put light pressure on my face in a few spots) that maybe it'll stop me bruxing. Has anyone heard of something similar? Am I going down a blind alley? Given the symptom, have people had more success going down a particular treatment route?
Amira

Cairo, Egypt

#2 Aug 2, 2011
hello , i felt the same like you from only one week until now , and i can't find a solutions , but i checked my blood pressure and it was high , i thought may be because of that so dunno :S
Pat

Noblesville, IN

#4 Oct 8, 2011
Brian wrote:
...Strangely, it appears to me that I only brux while I'm dreaming; at least, whenever I wake up in the middle of the night owing to a headache, it's always in the middle of a dream....
I've been noticing for the last several months (most of the time of my symptoms) that when I'm relaxed or getting ready for bed, I'd start feeling my muscles pulse on the left side of my face.... The pulsing would sometimes happen fast- say 2 beats/sec. Other times it would be slower, say 1 beat ever 3-4 sec....
So: Now to my questions. Has anyone else had this particular symptom? I'm hoping that if I can either stop the nerve flutter altogether or train my brain to ignore it....
I have facial muscles that flutter, always when drowsy or sleeping. I was diagnosed with a seizure-type disorder -- abnormal EEG accompanied by muscular symptoms. I am told that seizures most often occur when drowsy. They can cause jaw-clenching as well as muscular flutter. Medication usually controls it. Just another idea.
naz

Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK

#5 Aug 29, 2015
Brian wrote:
So, I've been experiencing headaches and ear-ringing for the last 9 months owing to bruxism I do while sleeping. Strangely, it appears to me that I only brux while I'm dreaming; at least, whenever I wake up in the middle of the night owing to a headache, it's always in the middle of a dream.
Anyhow, last night, after being woken up in the middle of the night by a headache, I spent several hours trying to get back to sleep, and while doing so, I think I made an interesting discovery.
I've been noticing for the last several months (most of the time of my symptoms) that when I'm relaxed or getting ready for bed, I'd start feeling my muscles pulse on the left side of my face. Initially, I thought it was the masseter only (I felt it in the middle of my cheek), but last night I found it was also in my succinator (I think that's the name of the muscle--it's near the lips) and also near my jaw joint. The pulsing would sometimes happen fast- say 2 beats/sec. Other times it would be slower, say 1 beat ever 3-4 sec.
While I was drifting off, I was trying to relax my facial muscles, but with the pulsing happening, I found it was a bit difficult to tell whether I was relaxed or clenched in those muscles. I then put my bedsheet over my face, and I could feel my muscles slightly and slowly moving even though I wasn't consciously moving them at all!
So: my realization (guess), which I hope leads me to a way to treat this, is that I think the fact that my muscles are involuntarily pulsing is confusing my systems into not knowing whether or not I'm relaxed, and it's generating the clenching behavior that is causing my bruxism.
I also made another discovery which I want to test: I found that if I put my fingers near the places where I felt flutter and pushed lightly, it seemed to stop the involuntary clenching and unclenching of my jaw. I think it's because my brain now had a reference point to compare to and it helped it realize what my relaxed state should be.
Along the lines of the theory that I need a reference point to help my brain figure out my jaw clench state, I'm guesing I don't brux while I'm awake because the pulsing is very faint, and I may have enough other stimulus for my brain to work out whether my jaw is clenched or not.
So: Now to my questions. Has anyone else had this particular symptom? I'm hoping that if I can either stop the nerve flutter altogether or train my brain to ignore it (maybe making some appliance I can wear to put light pressure on my face in a few spots) that maybe it'll stop me bruxing. Has anyone heard of something similar? Am I going down a blind alley? Given the symptom, have people had more success going down a particular treatment route?
I also woke up from a bad dream this morning and been feeling a pulse on the right side of my face near upper lip

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