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Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#41 Mar 20, 2013
The CDC did indeed announce that the incidence of autism is up to one in 50. They also said that the increase was in the most mild cases.

Nevertheless it's an alarming statistic. It is so large that it stretches credulity to the breaking point to attribute it to vaccines, which have been so thoroughly researched. Science isn't magic, and wishing it so doesn't make it so.

As long as idiots holler about vaccines, they will be blind to more likely explanations, something that really would be important.

"1 in 50 USA" is playing it from both ends. It is the CDC's best champion when it comes to the one in 50 statistic, but then they're all idiots when they say that vaccines are NOT the cause, and that is indeed what the CDC says.

Cherry-picking one's facts is inherently dishonest.

Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#42 Mar 20, 2013
WOW. We have posts disappearing here. I wonder who the whining baby is?

Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#43 Mar 21, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> A myth? DUH!! Parents have been saying for decades that their child was developing normally until a series of vaccines, then they were NEVER THE SAME. Autism has doubled in 2 years in some areas and 78% overall in 10 years. Genetic explanations do not fit these facts. Autism is a worldwide phenomenon and for anyone to say environment and genetics have done that shows why a dumbass they really are. There is only ONE common denominator, vaccines which are given in EVERY country in question.
Yes. Coincidence happens. The first clear symptoms of autism very often appear about the time those vaccines are given.

Just because a bird flies overhead right about the time your house catches fire doesn't mean the bird set fire to your home. Birds fly over your home all the time, and sometimes it will be right about when that fire started. Easy to blame the bird. Easy, but not accurate.

Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#44 Mar 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yet, you have no scientific, peer reviewed, paper that demonstrates they were wrong. Funny that.
I meant good research -- not all science. Just science-based research. Often reporters demand percentages because that's all they can understand. But "alternative" research is famous for using fourth grade per centage math instead of true statistics, and then their scientifically illiterate customers think they have "proof" of something.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#45 Mar 21, 2013
Gail Perry wrote:
The CDC did indeed announce that the incidence of autism is up to one in 50. They also said that the increase was in the most mild cases.
Nevertheless it's an alarming statistic. It is so large that it stretches credulity to the breaking point to attribute it to vaccines, which have been so thoroughly researched. Science isn't magic, and wishing it so doesn't make it so.
As long as idiots holler about vaccines, they will be blind to more likely explanations, something that really would be important.
"1 in 50 USA" is playing it from both ends. It is the CDC's best champion when it comes to the one in 50 statistic, but then they're all idiots when they say that vaccines are NOT the cause, and that is indeed what the CDC says.
Cherry-picking one's facts is inherently dishonest.
67 million with autism worldwide. A 657% increase in the USA between 1993 & 2003. Some states have doubled in two years. Its not genetic, ask a geneticist if genetic epidemics are possible and if they can occur in 2 years. It can ONLY be caused like a poisoning. Man Made in every way, not natural. From 2007 (1 in 88) to 2012 (1 in 50) why the dramatic change, a coincidence???

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#46 Mar 21, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> 67 million with autism worldwide. A 657% increase in the USA between 1993 & 2003. Some states have doubled in two years. Its not genetic, ask a geneticist if genetic epidemics are possible and if they can occur in 2 years. It can ONLY be caused like a poisoning. Man Made in every way, not natural. From 2007 (1 in 88) to 2012 (1 in 50) why the dramatic change, a coincidence???
Repeating your lie does not make it less of a lie.
MercieSense

United States

#47 Mar 21, 2013
Vaccines Cause MS wrote:
Thats what mainstream medicine says about everything. Its a blanket statement like many they have. Another good one is vaccines are safe and side effects rare and mild...hilarious, who do they think they are fooling?
Plain and simple...Unfortunately, they are fooling a lot of people. When people constantly take pills and medication even when they are warned about the side effects, or when they choose to not ask about the side effect, they are being fooled or brainwashed...pick one. You can ask a simple question like, "What do you do for a headache?" and at least 90% of the answers will be to take a drug. And they say this, like this is what the body needs. I wonder if I tell people what I do for a headache, if they will believe me or even try it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#48 Mar 21, 2013
MercieSense wrote:
<quoted text>
Plain and simple...Unfortunately, they are fooling a lot of people. When people constantly take pills and medication even when they are warned about the side effects, or when they choose to not ask about the side effect, they are being fooled or brainwashed...pick one. You can ask a simple question like, "What do you do for a headache?" and at least 90% of the answers will be to take a drug. And they say this, like this is what the body needs. I wonder if I tell people what I do for a headache, if they will believe me or even try it.
Ask a hundred people the best "home remedy" for a headache and you will get a hundred different answers.

Ask a hundred people the best over-the-counter treatment and you will get 3 different answers.

Do you understand why there is a difference?

Since: Mar 13

United States

#49 Mar 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Ask a hundred people the best "home remedy" for a headache and you will get a hundred different answers.
Ask a hundred people the best over-the-counter treatment and you will get 3 different answers.
Do you understand why there is a difference?
Yes, because people are brainwashed to think that when they have a headache (or other pain in their body), they should take medicine for it. The doctors tell them, the media tells them, their friends tell them. If there was as much emphases on the alternative, the original, the natural way to handle a headache (or other pain in the body), people would ultimately flock towards that.

What people should do (and yes, I am stating this as fact), is figure out, WHY they have the pain in the first place and deal with that health issue. What sense does it make to cover up the symptom (the headache or pain), ignore the actual problem (the health issue that causes the headache or pain), repeat this step throughout the day (or as needed), and damage healthy cells in your body (because every drug has a side effect).

It just doesn't make MercieSense to me.

Btw, how many might DIE from those hundred different answers? Too much, ok, how many WILL DEVELOP SIDE EFFECTS from those different home remedies?

Sure, they might not all work, but you won't have a lot of deaths from it either.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#50 Mar 21, 2013
MercieSense wrote:
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Yes, because people are brainwashed to think that when they have a headache (or other pain in their body), they should take medicine for it. The doctors tell them, the media tells them, their friends tell them. If there was as much emphases on the alternative, the original, the natural way to handle a headache (or other pain in the body), people would ultimately flock towards that.
What people should do (and yes, I am stating this as fact), is figure out, WHY they have the pain in the first place and deal with that health issue. What sense does it make to cover up the symptom (the headache or pain), ignore the actual problem (the health issue that causes the headache or pain), repeat this step throughout the day (or as needed), and damage healthy cells in your body (because every drug has a side effect).
It just doesn't make MercieSense to me.
Btw, how many might DIE from those hundred different answers? Too much, ok, how many WILL DEVELOP SIDE EFFECTS from those different home remedies?
Sure, they might not all work, but you won't have a lot of deaths from it either.
Completely wrong. It's because the medicine works and the "home remedies" do not. It's called a placebo effect, and though it can be beneficial it doesn't work for major issues. But people do die from "home remedies" when they fail to recognize that they may have a serious ailment that needs immediate medical attention, such as a stroke for headaches.

Do you know aspirin's side effect? It prevents blood clotting, in other words, it's side effect can also prevent heart attacks.

Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#51 Mar 21, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> 67 million with autism worldwide. A 657% increase in the USA between 1993 & 2003. Some states have doubled in two years. Its not genetic, ask a geneticist if genetic epidemics are possible and if they can occur in 2 years. It can ONLY be caused like a poisoning. Man Made in every way, not natural. From 2007 (1 in 88) to 2012 (1 in 50) why the dramatic change, a coincidence???
I'm so sorry. I can see you can only process one thought at a time.

IMPROVED DIAGNOSTICS. That is a LARGE part of the increase. HUGE part of the increase. I taught special education and I saw it all unfold, but you believe whatever your head can hold.

Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#52 Mar 21, 2013
MercieSense wrote:
<quoted text>
Plain and simple...Unfortunately, they are fooling a lot of people. When people constantly take pills and medication even when they are warned about the side effects, or when they choose to not ask about the side effect, they are being fooled or brainwashed...pick one. You can ask a simple question like, "What do you do for a headache?" and at least 90% of the answers will be to take a drug. And they say this, like this is what the body needs. I wonder if I tell people what I do for a headache, if they will believe me or even try it.
sorry, but I always consider the source.

Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#53 Mar 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask a hundred people the best "home remedy" for a headache and you will get a hundred different answers.
Ask a hundred people the best over-the-counter treatment and you will get 3 different answers.
Do you understand why there is a difference?
Because headache is a SYMPTOM, you ninny! Headaches have many causes. THAT'S WHY. But you believe whatever you want to. You're just dying for someone to ask you, aren't you ... I suggest you make up a second screen name and ask yourself.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#54 Mar 21, 2013
Gail Perry wrote:
<quoted text>
Because headache is a SYMPTOM, you ninny! Headaches have many causes. THAT'S WHY. But you believe whatever you want to. You're just dying for someone to ask you, aren't you ... I suggest you make up a second screen name and ask yourself.
You should read ahead, like the response I posted to the response they posted.

Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#55 Mar 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
You should read ahead, like the response I posted to the response they posted.
I'm so sorry. I thought you were that twit. I really don't care how he/she "treats" a headache. Anyone who needs to do that a lot needs to find out the cause of the headaches. They can have some pretty serious causes. My late husband started having headaches. He ignored them. They were caused by a cerebral aneurism that could have been repaired if he had gone to the doctor.

Again, I apologize. That other preson gets so hyperfocused on anything BUT the topic in the forum.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#56 Mar 21, 2013
Gail Perry wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm so sorry. I thought you were that twit. I really don't care how he/she "treats" a headache. Anyone who needs to do that a lot needs to find out the cause of the headaches. They can have some pretty serious causes. My late husband started having headaches. He ignored them. They were caused by a cerebral aneurism that could have been repaired if he had gone to the doctor.
Again, I apologize. That other preson gets so hyperfocused on anything BUT the topic in the forum.
It's alright, you have a very personal connection to the topic. I also suffer from headaches, and blood clotting issues. I have also have major digestive surgery, which I would have died without medical science and even then almost died anyway, if not for the skills of the surgeon. The worst thing, I use to be one of those "new age" medicine freaks as well, until I did the research ... which was lucky for me or I would have killed myself due to listening to the scams of herbalists and naturalists.

Since: Feb 10

Clearwater, FL

#57 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
It's alright, you have a very personal connection to the topic. I also suffer from headaches, and blood clotting issues. I have also have major digestive surgery, which I would have died without medical science and even then almost died anyway, if not for the skills of the surgeon. The worst thing, I use to be one of those "new age" medicine freaks as well, until I did the research ... which was lucky for me or I would have killed myself due to listening to the scams of herbalists and naturalists.
I know someone else who nearly killed himself that way. He needed a new heart valve. First they tried to control the effects on his heart, which could have lead to congestive heart failure, with medication. But he decided he knew better, stopped taking his pills and started walking three miles a day.

Well, OFTEN exercise is a good idea for a heart patient -- but NOT ALWAYS. He nearly killed himself as well, but spent a lot of time bragging how he knew more than the doctors before he nearly died. I know someone else who is determined to take cinnamon instead of a blood thinner after heart surgery. I hope it works for him; I found decent reports on that at least.

Thing is,*anything* that works is a drug. Calling it an "alternative" is a beaurocratic distinction, not a science one. Our body could care less (I'm sure you know that)> That means that alternatives *that work* are ALSO going to have side effects. For my friend, anything that 'thins the blood' as they say lessens his cances for a heart attack or stroke caused by a clot -- but it INCREASES the odds for a stroke caused by bleeding in the brain. Those strokes are not as common but they do happen.

Nothing is perfect, not even effective alternatives. If it works, it's probably going to have side effects.

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