Early Indicators of Autism Spectrum Disorders

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It is well established that early identification and intervention are critical determinants in the course and outcome of autism spectrum disorders .

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#379 Feb 4, 2013
He thinks by changing his name, no one will notice. Funny, isn't it?
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#380 Feb 4, 2013
friend wrote:
He thinks by changing his name, no one will notice. Funny, isn't it?
He seems unstable, I pity his child. Hopefully he is a better father than the way he comes across on this forum.
Pharma Maims Kills

Winnipeg, Canada

#381 Feb 4, 2013
Elias wrote:
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He seems unstable, I pity his child. Hopefully he is a better father than the way he comes across on this forum.
I'm more stable than you'll ever be. I don't talk nonsense and know the reality of both vaccine injury and autism. Besides, talking to myself beats talking to clued out parents who think the regressive autism epidemic stems from a genetic source. There has never be a genetic epidemic and it certainly couldn't be a world wide phenomenon like it is.

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#382 Feb 4, 2013
Most anti vaxxers are unstable. And by the behavior, that anger, bitterness, name-calling and attention seeking has to rub off on those around him, more so than what will ever affect us on this forum.
Elias wrote:
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He seems unstable, I pity his child. Hopefully he is a better father than the way he comes across on this forum.
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#383 Feb 4, 2013
friend wrote:
Most anti vaxxers are unstable. And by the behavior, that anger, bitterness, name-calling and attention seeking has to rub off on those around him, more so than what will ever affect us on this forum.
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Yes, it's almost like cult indocrination.
Autism 4 Dummies

Winnipeg, Canada

#384 Feb 4, 2013
friend wrote:
Most anti vaxxers are unstable. And by the behavior, that anger, bitterness, name-calling and attention seeking has to rub off on those around him, more so than what will ever affect us on this forum.
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I pity your child, living with a complete bozo.
Autism 4 Dummies

Winnipeg, Canada

#385 Feb 4, 2013
Elias wrote:
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Yes, it's almost like cult indocrination.
That cult includes the U.S. vaccine injury compensation plan that was not set up by anti-vaxxers. It includes all countries with compensation programs which are the most damning evidence of how vaccines take a healthy child and make it so sick it can't function. Or they simply die.
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#386 Feb 4, 2013
Autism 4 Dummies wrote:
<quoted text> That cult includes the U.S. vaccine injury compensation plan that was not set up by anti-vaxxers. It includes all countries with compensation programs which are the most damning evidence of how vaccines take a healthy child and make it so sick it can't function. Or they simply die.
Good luck with that...

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#387 Feb 5, 2013
It's exactly like a cult and like most cults, the followers have no clue about the falsehoods being presented to them. Their beliefs or practices are considered abnormal or bizarre by the larger society, whose members have caused or have a high probability of causing harm to other members or to other people. Anti vaxxers will make a vaccine cause out of any thing, and justify their beliefs off any untrue, unfounded claim and call it 'evidence'.
Elias wrote:
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Yes, it's almost like cult indocrination.
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#388 Feb 5, 2013
friend wrote:
It's exactly like a cult and like most cults, the followers have no clue about the falsehoods being presented to them. Their beliefs or practices are considered abnormal or bizarre by the larger society, whose members have caused or have a high probability of causing harm to other members or to other people. Anti vaxxers will make a vaccine cause out of any thing, and justify their beliefs off any untrue, unfounded claim and call it 'evidence'.
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Yes it borders on irrational. Lets hope they don't escalate to sabotauge of pharma factories or shooting doctors who dispense vaccines.

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#389 Feb 5, 2013
Anti vaxxers have threatened such, Paul Offit being one of them. He's had hate mail and death threats and threats against his children. And why? Regardless of that mans work with vaccines and infectious diseases might be, vaccines are still a parental choice. And it's not like he's the only doctor doing such work. But anti vaxxers target people with no respect of the law. It's these same people who cult-follow Wakefield and claim he wasn't a fraud and did no wrong.
Irrational best describes them.
Autism 4 Dummies

Winnipeg, Canada

#390 Feb 5, 2013
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Yes, they probably would say that, but if vaccines are "toxic" and "poison" children then since most children weigh about the same and get certain vaccines at a specific ages shouldn't they all be affected equally AND even if it was said "well, some kids might be better able to tolerate the toxins" there is still a question of why is the onset of autism different in everyone? Some get it before 12 months others start regressing at maybe age 2 or 3. Also which vaccine specifically causes Autism? Or which combination of vaccines?? Because if it was ANY or ALL vaccines then, as someone argued before boys and girls would be affected equally or there would be MORE cases of ASD because of the number of children who get vaccinated is so much higher than the number of children with ASD
You'd have to know each child's record of immunization and individual and gender differences. Problem is, vaccines are not effective or safe for all. One new concept in medicine is individualized treatment which though difficult would make sense. Vaccinating children is no different from vaccinating a heard of animals, each gets the same thing, though dose could be different if bottles are not shaken. Plus there are hot lots and contaminated lots at times that are recalled. There are so many variables it makes explanation for autism difficult. And saying there should be identical numbers in males and females is dumb, because we see that it isn't so, so accept it, and wait for an explanation.
Autism 4 Dummies

Winnipeg, Canada

#391 Feb 5, 2013
Elias wrote:
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sour grapes eh...if you really do have a child on the spectrum I hope you do what's right at least for the child's sake.
OH, I should do right, not government, mainstream medicine or Pharma. It just shows the standard response and the real outcome, it all falls on the parent who vaccinated and lost. I'm responsible for the fact SAFE vaccines are not SAFE. Thanks for the DUH moment.
Autism 4 Dummies

Winnipeg, Canada

#392 Feb 5, 2013
friend wrote:
Most anti vaxxers are unstable. And by the behavior, that anger, bitterness, name-calling and attention seeking has to rub off on those around him, more so than what will ever affect us on this forum.
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Finally something you're an expert on, being unstable. Personal experience no doubt.
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#393 Feb 6, 2013
Autism 4 Dummies wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks for the DUH moment.
You are most welcome
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#394 Feb 6, 2013
friend wrote:
Anti vaxxers have threatened such, Paul Offit being one of them. He's had hate mail and death threats and threats against his children. And why? Regardless of that mans work with vaccines and infectious diseases might be, vaccines are still a parental choice. And it's not like he's the only doctor doing such work. But anti vaxxers target people with no respect of the law. It's these same people who cult-follow Wakefield and claim he wasn't a fraud and did no wrong.
Irrational best describes them.
Quite honestly in the scheme of things worrying about anti-vaxxers is like panicking over gnats when we are living in a hailstorm.
Klink

El Dorado Springs, MO

#395 Feb 6, 2013
Autism 4 Dummies wrote:
You'd have to know each child's record of immunization and individual and gender differences. Problem is, vaccines are not effective or safe for all. One new concept in medicine is individualized treatment which though difficult would make sense. Vaccinating children is no different from vaccinating a heard of animals, each gets the same thing, though dose could be different if bottles are not shaken. Plus there are hot lots and contaminated lots at times that are recalled. There are so many variables it makes explanation for autism difficult. And saying there should be identical numbers in males and females is dumb, because we see that it isn't so, so accept it, and wait for an explanation.

One difference in human vaccination and animals is the vaccination itself is developed to deliberately cause autism.


The Global Vaccine Agenda
www.youtube.com/watch...
David Ayoub MD, goes through the relations of vaccination to autism and more.


Vaccination: The Hidden Truth
www.youtube.com/watch...


War on Health
with Gary Null
www.youtube.com/watch...


THE SPANISH INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC OF 1918 WAS CAUSED BY VACCINATIONS
www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html


And yes vaccination is just bad science. When we build an immunity to a cold or flu from being around others with the condition this is done thru eating or breathing in the bacterium, not injecting it directly into the blood bypassing the entire digestive system.

Human vaccines have never prevented or cured anything.

www.vaccination.inoz.com/immunization.html

I question whether animal vacs could either.

Human flu vacs are never the correct flu strain. There is no cure for the flu including the vaccine.

The people trust the govt because they have never studied the maniacs that ran the Civil War and have never done anything good for this country or the people.

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#396 Feb 6, 2013
Well, one can clearly see where bad science really is, youtube and whale. The Spanish flu was not caused by any vaccine given to soldiers. Soldiers were greatly affected due to mass close- living quarters and they traveled more than civilians did. And big clue, there was no vaccine containing that virus at the time. There's no way to build immunity to colds or flu by being exposed to bacterium. They're not caused by bacterium. Hello. And if immunity was able to be built, no one would ever contract the flu or common cold. But they do. Vaccines also are not injected directly into the blood. Hello.
Nice scare tactics of a person who isn't very knowledgeable about vaccines or viruses.
Thanks for attempting to spread conspiracy theories and scare tactics. It was great fun reading and debunking them.
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#397 Feb 6, 2013
friend wrote:
Well, one can clearly see where bad science really is, youtube and whale. The Spanish flu was not caused by any vaccine given to soldiers. Soldiers were greatly affected due to mass close- living quarters and they traveled more than civilians did. And big clue, there was no vaccine containing that virus at the time. There's no way to build immunity to colds or flu by being exposed to bacterium. They're not caused by bacterium. Hello. And if immunity was able to be built, no one would ever contract the flu or common cold. But they do. Vaccines also are not injected directly into the blood. Hello.
Nice scare tactics of a person who isn't very knowledgeable about vaccines or viruses.
Thanks for attempting to spread conspiracy theories and scare tactics. It was great fun reading and debunking them.
LOL!

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#398 Feb 6, 2013
Pretty much. They hide behind computers and the postal service, repeating a bunch of unfounded claims that they deem must be true since some one else claims is true. Every time one shows up, their own claims discredit them. And it's funny. Vaccines aren't injected directly into the blood, and most but one is a virus and most if not all are air borne, and would never make it to the digestive system if you contracted it naturally. The virus would hit the lungs first.
Elias wrote:
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Quite honestly in the scheme of things worrying about anti-vaxxers is like panicking over gnats when we are living in a hailstorm.

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