Early Indicators of Autism Spectrum Disorders

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It is well established that early identification and intervention are critical determinants in the course and outcome of autism spectrum disorders .

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VaccinesCauseAut ism

Winnipeg, Canada

#210 Jan 23, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
Nonsensical nonsense.
Translation: DUH!

Since: Jan 07

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#212 Jan 23, 2013
Wrong again. It's a medical term for a symptom. Anti vaxxer foolishly get the two mixed up to try and scare people. It's not a serious side effect at all nor is it even listed under serious side effects of the insert. It's listed right along with nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and constipation!
hmm

San Antonio, TX

#213 Jan 23, 2013
friend wrote:
Wrong again. It's a medical term for a symptom. Anti vaxxer foolishly get the two mixed up to try and scare people. It's not a serious side effect at all nor is it even listed under serious side effects of the insert. It's listed right along with nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and constipation!
It doesn't even have to mean "poor appetite" it is simple DECREASED appetite
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#214 Jan 23, 2013
Vaccines Cause ASD wrote:
Number one: after a series of vaccines your normally developing son was never the same. lost all language and regressed into autism
And make sure you read this: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/01/4214...
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#215 Jan 23, 2013
friend wrote:
Wrong again. It's a medical term for a symptom. Anti vaxxer foolishly get the two mixed up to try and scare people. It's not a serious side effect at all nor is it even listed under serious side effects of the insert. It's listed right along with nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and constipation!
Thanks for PROVING its part of the G.I. issues caused by vaccines. And instead of autism, some develope anorexia ONLY
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#216 Jan 23, 2013
Sorry can everyone please ignore this anti-vax troll. He hijacked this thread which is actually about indicators of ASD and not about speculating causes.

Judging from his language and his lack of interest in considering other points of view this person in Winnipeg Canada comes across as a troll. I wouldn't be surprised he is lying about his son having autism.

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#217 Jan 23, 2013
Better yet, read this http://www.topix.com/forum/health/autism/TLLU...

They received compensation because their child experienced immediate, severe encephalopathic reactions to the vacinnes, which is a known and rare complication of vaccination. The compensatory illness was definitively not autism. Secondly, science is not determined in the courtroom, therefore conclusions as to what may or may not cause autism should not be made based on judicial decisions.

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#218 Jan 23, 2013
Contracting the viruses can cause the same symptoms, but none of them are life-lasting. Thanks for proving you have no clue about what you're talking about.
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#219 Jan 23, 2013
Anyone interested in actually discussing the thread topic? indicators of autism...not friggin vaccines...
the TOPIC

San Antonio, TX

#220 Jan 23, 2013
Elias wrote:
Anyone interested in actually discussing the thread topic? indicators of autism...not friggin vaccines...
THANK YOU! Yes I would!
My son was just diagnosed (he is 3) even though I suspected it as early as 2 or maybe even earlier. His doc kept down playing his delays say oh he'll grow out of it, don't "baby" him things like that, so I changed dr's. but now looking back I guess there were some early signs that could have indicated this diagnosis but at the time seemed sort if trivial
Garbage

Winnipeg, Canada

#221 Jan 23, 2013
Elias wrote:
Sorry can everyone please ignore this anti-vax troll. He hijacked this thread which is actually about indicators of ASD and not about speculating causes.
Judging from his language and his lack of interest in considering other points of view this person in Winnipeg Canada comes across as a troll. I wouldn't be surprised he is lying about his son having autism.
If only I could say my son was fine, but I can't because vaccines ruined his life.
Garbage

Winnipeg, Canada

#222 Jan 23, 2013
Elias wrote:
Anyone interested in actually discussing the thread topic? indicators of autism...not friggin vaccines...
who's stopping you? Point is after a series of vaccines indicators start. Are you saying your child was never vaccinated?
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#223 Jan 23, 2013
the TOPIC wrote:
<quoted text>
THANK YOU! Yes I would!
My son was just diagnosed (he is 3) even though I suspected it as early as 2 or maybe even earlier. His doc kept down playing his delays say oh he'll grow out of it, don't "baby" him things like that, so I changed dr's. but now looking back I guess there were some early signs that could have indicated this diagnosis but at the time seemed sort if trivial
Yes thats exactly the same for us. Our daughter had a reasonably normal first 3 years. Then there were a few developmental issues and our paediatrician shrugged them off. Eventually we went to a psych who gave us the diagnosis of ASD.
The thing we are most worried about now is how she will turn out. Based on historic case studies anything is possible!

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#224 Jan 23, 2013
My son was always delayed, and nothing to account for it. Normal pregnancy, normal natural birth (would not recommend that) and no vaccines at birth. He did every thing very late. He clearly had sensory issues very early, but only when he turned 2 did his behaviors become defined enough to wonder what was going on. We actually had a good doctor and still have them. After obtaining my sons medical records including doctor notes, she suspected autism for a long time but waited until he was 2 years old to be sure. When I went to get a diagnosis, I didn't really care what it was, we just needed to know. The first 2 places wouldn't diagnosis until age 5, no one wanted to add another to the rates. Then I got him into the best place in the state. They wouldn't diagnosis until tests were done to rule out other causes. So when I say I know what didn't cause my child's autism, I really know. He's probably had more tests than others who have autism. Infantile onset severe autism, so debilitating it affected every minute of his day, and it did. But all children progress. Those who don't progress have something else going on. My son was non verbal, when he started talking at almost age 5, he had his own language, and he stuttered horribly. What worked for my son has worked for others I know, the main thing is to stick with a set of interventions long enough for them to work. Many parents don't see progress soon enough and change therapies. It took a whole year to see any progress in my son. Ignore the dooms day people who give no hope and never talk about anything but scare tactics. Autism isn't the end of the world or a child's life. My son is now an early teen, still has autism, and he knows he has autism.
Elias

Glen Waverley, Australia

#225 Jan 23, 2013
friend wrote:
My son was always delayed, and nothing to account for it. Normal pregnancy, normal natural birth (would not recommend that) and no vaccines at birth. He did every thing very late. He clearly had sensory issues very early, but only when he turned 2 did his behaviors become defined enough to wonder what was going on. We actually had a good doctor and still have them. After obtaining my sons medical records including doctor notes, she suspected autism for a long time but waited until he was 2 years old to be sure. When I went to get a diagnosis, I didn't really care what it was, we just needed to know. The first 2 places wouldn't diagnosis until age 5, no one wanted to add another to the rates. Then I got him into the best place in the state. They wouldn't diagnosis until tests were done to rule out other causes. So when I say I know what didn't cause my child's autism, I really know. He's probably had more tests than others who have autism. Infantile onset severe autism, so debilitating it affected every minute of his day, and it did. But all children progress. Those who don't progress have something else going on. My son was non verbal, when he started talking at almost age 5, he had his own language, and he stuttered horribly. What worked for my son has worked for others I know, the main thing is to stick with a set of interventions long enough for them to work. Many parents don't see progress soon enough and change therapies. It took a whole year to see any progress in my son. Ignore the dooms day people who give no hope and never talk about anything but scare tactics. Autism isn't the end of the world or a child's life. My son is now an early teen, still has autism, and he knows he has autism.
Great to hear your son has improved. My daughter was hyperlexic and speaking words as early as 10 months old. It was only when she reached three when we realised she was not stringing sentences together. It took almost two years for us to get a diagnosis but she was eventualyl diagnosed with ASD. She was tecnically not speaking with people till she was five but even now (she's 7) she is very reserved and prefers to speak in short sentences. Her behavior is quite difficult to control without drugs and she has major sensitivity to noise (particularly human coughing/sneezing).

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#226 Jan 24, 2013
My son was also on meds, starting at age 5 for a dignosed sleep disorder and later on another med for anxities. Just the beginning of this school year has he been off all medications and is doing well.
Interestingly, my youngest nephew was born with a protein disorder and is the first infant in this nation to have it known at birth since they added it as a newborn medical test. Most times it went undiagnosed and the child would die by age 3 and after Post-mortem would they find out that was the cause of death. They are at high risk of stroke and seizures. There's no real treatment for it, this child will be in medical literature for treating a new born. He will soon be 5 years old. That nephew is very much like my son. Developmentally delayed, lacks language and social skills and so on. All the classic signs of autism. Both parents have to carry the gene to have a child with this disorder, and the risk of having that child is 1:4. Their first child was born with this disorder. My first child was also born with autism. Even if my genetics caused my child's autism, I still wouldn't blame myself and I wouldn't have given up the chance to have him for my child, autism and all.
Becky

Nanjing, China

#227 Jan 24, 2013
Anglo-Saxon-Celt wrote:
Autism Spectrum Disorder??
So thats the new buzzword for autism is it?
Who made up that pile of horse sh!t i wonder?
Somebody who knows more about it than you, presumably
the TOPIC

San Antonio, TX

#228 Jan 24, 2013
My son is still non verbal he only says mama but doesn't understand what it means he says it for any and everything it pretty much just replaced his "grunting" which he still does. He also didn't walk until almost 2 and didn't point until fairy recently and when he does point it's off target so there is still a lot of guessing. When I'm being serious with him or trying to get him to understand he can't so something he can't comprehend that he's "in trouble" and just thinks it hilarious so it's really hard at times. When he was a baby he was really quiet never cried unless he was hungry or dirty never "fussy" never got sick teething was super easy. He was a very "low maintenance" baby. When he got older he never seemed interested in what we were doing and didn't try to get us to play with him we always had to engage him and when we did he'd stop whatever he was playing with and do something else. At first we were like, "ok he doesn't want us playing with his toys" but it was really just that he likes playing alone better

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#229 Jan 24, 2013
Topic- my son was very much the same way. Everyone called him the 'happy go lucky' boy. He never cried except mainly when it became night time. He over reacted to sounds around him yet under reacted when he should have (peek a boo). The ceiling fan was his best friend. He was a pressure seeker right off the bat. The only thing he did developmentally early was cut his teeth, and even then he got his top teeth first when most babies get the bottom first. Once he got those teeth, he became a biter of anything that wasn't food. He wrecked his top and lower teeth due to biting hard objects, broke them right off. High threshld for pain, too. He never cried when he was hurt. My son has verbal stims, and for him it was the letter P. He could say puppy and baby. His main form of communication was a growl, and by the type of growl you knew if he was mad, sad or happy. It wasn't until he started really talking, he started asking about memories he had but he had a hard time describing things due to language issues. I found he memorized things by colors, and his earliest memory was prior to being a year old. So even for a non verbal child, don't under estimate what they may understand. They very well may understand a lot, but lack the ability to make you aware of it due to autism. My son only heard the last of a sentence spoken to him. My advise is speak in very short sentences, add a word as the child's sentences become longer. My son was a toy dumper and paper shredder. Any magazine or video case that had eyes on it, he tore up. My son still has a hard time showing his emotions, he's the type who holds it in all day and let's it out once he's home. My son out grew many of his younger behaviors, and as he get's older he acquired other behaviors but the verbal stims and repeating he may never loose! I had learned my son needed stims, I couldn't always say no. So at home, he's allowed to a point to have his behaviors, but at school I have expectations for him to find some control. He is a rule follower so school is easier for him, and predictable. Social settings and at home never is predictable.
May I ask what interventions you have thought about or are trying?
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#230 Jan 24, 2013
the TOPIC wrote:
My son is still non verbal he only says mama but doesn't understand what it means he says it for any and everything it pretty much just replaced his "grunting" which he still does. He also didn't walk until almost 2 and didn't point until fairy recently and when he does point it's off target so there is still a lot of guessing. When I'm being serious with him or trying to get him to understand he can't so something he can't comprehend that he's "in trouble" and just thinks it hilarious so it's really hard at times. When he was a baby he was really quiet never cried unless he was hungry or dirty never "fussy" never got sick teething was super easy. He was a very "low maintenance" baby. When he got older he never seemed interested in what we were doing and didn't try to get us to play with him we always had to engage him and when we did he'd stop whatever he was playing with and do something else. At first we were like, "ok he doesn't want us playing with his toys" but it was really just that he likes playing alone better
Don't expect him to ever change, unfortunately the damage is done and can't be reversed.

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