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Researcher Says CDC 'Chose to Cover Up' Data Linking...

There are 22 comments on the TheBlaze.com story from Aug 28, 2014, titled Researcher Says CDC 'Chose to Cover Up' Data Linking.... In it, TheBlaze.com reports that:

A study published earlier this month re-analyzing data put out by the CDC in 2004, claims to have found a statistically significant association between autism and the age at which the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine is given to infant African-American boys.

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MMR CAUSES AUTISM

Winnipeg, Canada

#1 Aug 29, 2014
Been going on for decades

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#2 Aug 29, 2014
Don't you find it interesting that Hooker's clams only pertain to African American boys?? Hello. Ask yourself why that would be? And also consider the case children of 624 to the controls being 1824. Hooker and Wakefield's plan back fired on them, of course it always does, and even had it been a valid analysis, this does not prove anything about the CDC other than pertaining to this one study. And isn't it so funny Wakefield on a video claims a coverup, when he himself was found guilty of the very same thing?!
WHITE RAT

Winnipeg, Canada

#3 Aug 29, 2014
friend wrote:
Don't you find it interesting that Hooker's clams only pertain to African American boys?? Hello. Ask yourself why that would be? And also consider the case children of 624 to the controls being 1824. Hooker and Wakefield's plan back fired on them, of course it always does, and even had it been a valid analysis, this does not prove anything about the CDC other than pertaining to this one study. And isn't it so funny Wakefield on a video claims a coverup, when he himself was found guilty of the very same thing?!
Blah blah you say? Nice job making that up...what a riot
sheepleloveroyal ty

Pottstown, PA

#4 Sep 5, 2014
MMR CAUSES AUTISM wrote:
Been going on for decades
And that's why it will be hard to sway the pro vaccination crowd. Rather than admit there is a chance of autism from a childhood vaccine they continue to push there is no chance or link between autism and vaccines. I'm sure there are medical industry people that prefer people to get vaccinated and run the risk of autism than not get vaccinated-which is fine if they were upfront about it but they are not. Some lead astray by bureaucracies and research organizations using studies with similar results and behaviors as the CDC in this case.

The pro vaccers constantly cite legal or academic loop holes, technicalities and pro vaccer news such as the Dr found guilty of fraud in the 90s. They are committed to across the board vaccinations and like many others with an agenda they will do what ever it takes including perpetuating their truth. They want this to be a very controlled debate.

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#5 Sep 5, 2014
I doubt anyone has said there's not a 'chance' vaccines could cause autism, it's not about a chance, it is? It's about the claims made and backing it up, either you can or you cant.

And by the way, Wakefield WAS found guilty, and as of today no other person has ever been found guilty of all Wakefield was. Not only that, but wakefield's paper subjected children to invasive painful unneeded tests, one so flawed the child will need 24 hour medical care. Most any other study never included such invasiv tests on children, and that 2004 study this is all about was looking at numbers, not actual tests on children. Wakefield is a part of this Hooker paper. You cant prove fraud with fraud. Doesn't matter if you're an anti vaxxer or pro vaxxer, anyine can easily grasp that.
sam

Saint-hubert, Canada

#6 Sep 5, 2014
friend wrote:
I doubt anyone has said there's not a 'chance' vaccines could cause autism, it's not about a chance, it is? It's about the claims made and backing it up, either you can or you cant.
And by the way, Wakefield WAS found guilty, and as of today no other person has ever been found guilty of all Wakefield was. Not only that, but wakefield's paper subjected children to invasive painful unneeded tests, one so flawed the child will need 24 hour medical care. Most any other study never included such invasiv tests on children, and that 2004 study this is all about was looking at numbers, not actual tests on children. Wakefield is a part of this Hooker paper. You cant prove fraud with fraud. Doesn't matter if you're an anti vaxxer or pro vaxxer, anyine can easily grasp that.

Vaccines do cause autism and now its a fact that was known about 15 years ago. It started when kids got autism and nasty gastrointestinal diseases which parents took these kids and brought them to a liscensed gastroentrologist Dr Wakefield where he performed intial gut biopsies with other specialist doctors and came to conclusion vaccines do cause autism. Lancet published the study but it was too much for Pharma and their pets health agencies to handle. they had to vilify Wakefield as acorrupt to dispute his research. 15 years later Dr Wakefield is standing strong and firm on his initial research. Now we have a inside CDC researcher involved in the studies saying CDC is corrupt.

Search for the truth for yourselves but this. CDC and vaccines will be brought to their knees and will be held accountable.

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#7 Sep 5, 2014
Wakefield was not a licensed gastroentrologist nor a peds doctor. He was an intestinal transplant doctor. Wakefield's paper was also about non-specific colitis "We describe a pattern of colitis and ileal-lymphoidnodular hyperplasia in children with developmental disorders." Also "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." Directly from what Wakefield's called a hypothesis.
You cant prove fraud with a fraud. It's just that simple.
VACCINE CURSE

Winnipeg, Canada

#8 Sep 5, 2014
friend wrote:
Wakefield was not a licensed gastroentrologist nor a peds doctor. He was an intestinal transplant doctor. Wakefield's paper was also about non-specific colitis "We describe a pattern of colitis and ileal-lymphoidnodular hyperplasia in children with developmental disorders." Also "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." Directly from what Wakefield's called a hypothesis.
You cant prove fraud with a fraud. It's just that simple.
Tell us exactly what he was found guilty of, and don't answer with blah blah and nonsense.

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#9 Sep 5, 2014
Everyone knows what he was found guilty of. Just because you choose not to rememebr doesn't change the facts. But more importantly is what the contents of his paper contained, and it's not what anti vaxxers claim.
vaccine HALOCAUST

Winnipeg, Canada

#10 Sep 5, 2014
friend wrote:
Everyone knows what he was found guilty of. Just because you choose not to rememebr doesn't change the facts. But more importantly is what the contents of his paper contained, and it's not what anti vaxxers claim.
you say he's been found guilty..OF WHAT? He was rail roaded and used as show trial to protect GSKS' MMR
sam

Saint-hubert, Canada

#12 Sep 5, 2014
friend wrote:
Wakefield was not a licensed gastroentrologist nor a peds doctor. He was an intestinal transplant doctor. Wakefield's paper was also about non-specific colitis "We describe a pattern of colitis and ileal-lymphoidnodular hyperplasia in children with developmental disorders." Also "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." Directly from what Wakefield's called a hypothesis.
You cant prove fraud with a fraud. It's just that simple.
I love it when vaxxpusher come to get trashed spewed chewed up and pissed on. You forgot forgot professor John Walker Smith. He collaborated with Wakefield on his studies. John Walker Smith is a professor Paediatric Gastroenterology.
You see how irresponsible it is to comment on stuff you dont shiiite about, vaxxpusher. Why bother to comment to negate Wakefield when you are too dumb to realise he had a team of collaborators. It is just even more weigh at how GMC is a garbage UK institution in pocket of GSK. Come back to get more pissed on when dry...
sam

Saint-hubert, Canada

#13 Sep 5, 2014
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
<quoted text>
And that's why it will be hard to sway the pro vaccination crowd. Rather than admit there is a chance of autism from a childhood vaccine they continue to push there is no chance or link between autism and vaccines. I'm sure there are medical industry people that prefer people to get vaccinated and run the risk of autism than not get vaccinated-which is fine if they were upfront about it but they are not. Some lead astray by bureaucracies and research organizations using studies with similar results and behaviors as the CDC in this case.
The pro vaccers constantly cite legal or academic loop holes, technicalities and pro vaccer news such as the Dr found guilty of fraud in the 90s. They are committed to across the board vaccinations and like many others with an agenda they will do what ever it takes including perpetuating their truth. They want this to be a very controlled debate.
You could control the debate when 10, 100, 1000 cases of regression after vaccinationmleading to autism. But not when you have 100000 of similar reporting of same patterns of regression of normal kids to autism SHORTLY AFTER VACCINATION.
ric99

Goole, UK

#14 Sep 5, 2014
Canadian Sam 'conveniently' forgets the scientific studies which show that the autism regression rate shortly after vaccination is no different from the rate before vaccination, or from the rate many months or even years after vaccination, or among kids who were never vaccinated. To anyone with half a brain, that means that vaccination is NOT a cause of autism.
white rats

Winnipeg, Canada

#15 Sep 6, 2014
sam wrote:
<quoted text>
I love it when vaxxpusher come to get trashed spewed chewed up and pissed on. You forgot forgot professor John Walker Smith. He collaborated with Wakefield on his studies. John Walker Smith is a professor Paediatric Gastroenterology.
You see how irresponsible it is to comment on stuff you dont shiiite about, vaxxpusher. Why bother to comment to negate Wakefield when you are too dumb to realise he had a team of collaborators. It is just even more weigh at how GMC is a garbage UK institution in pocket of GSK. Come back to get more pissed on when dry...
Walker-Smith was exonerated and his Kangaroo court "conviction" was called UNLAWFUL by a real judge who had no ties to Pharma/GSK
MMR CAUSES AUTISM USA

Winnipeg, Canada

#16 Sep 6, 2014
ric99 wrote:
Canadian Sam 'conveniently' forgets the scientific studies which show that the autism regression rate shortly after vaccination is no different from the rate before vaccination, or from the rate many months or even years after vaccination, or among kids who were never vaccinated. To anyone with half a brain, that means that vaccination is NOT a cause of autism.
ricDOUBLEDUH99 conveniently forgets the collusion and cover up and the exchange of cash that rules science today. Journals take $$$ and allow trash science to be published. So ricDUHDUH99 needs to grow up and accept what happens in the REAL WORLD, not what he thinks up in his immature, twisted mind.

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#17 Sep 6, 2014
It doesn't matter who John Walker Smith is, we're talking about your claim about Wakefield. John Walker Smith's ruling was over turned becuse he claimed he knew nothing about the fraud Wakefild did during that paper and there was no proof he did know. Show one paper or study that was funded by attorneys who were representing the parents of the children who were the case controls? And Wakefield's paper meant nothing anyway: "We describe a pattern of colitis and ileal-lymphoidnodular hyperplasia in children with developmental disorders." Also "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." Directly from what Wakefield's called a hypothesis.
You cant prove fraud with a fraud. It's just that simple.
MMR DAMAGE

Winnipeg, Canada

#18 Sep 6, 2014
friend wrote:
It doesn't matter who John Walker Smith is, we're talking about your claim about Wakefield. John Walker Smith's ruling was over turned becuse he claimed he knew nothing about the fraud Wakefild did during that paper and there was no proof he did know. Show one paper or study that was funded by attorneys who were representing the parents of the children who were the case controls? And Wakefield's paper meant nothing anyway: "We describe a pattern of colitis and ileal-lymphoidnodular hyperplasia in children with developmental disorders." Also "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." Directly from what Wakefield's called a hypothesis.
You cant prove fraud with a fraud. It's just that simple.
Wakefield's paper meant nothing? But its proof vaccines don't cause autism pro-vac and its used over and over and over by you dolts. But it means nothing. Buh Wah ha ha what a stooge. Walker- Smith was an intrical part of the paper and its findings and he was charged the same as Wakefield. If he's innocent so is Andy

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#20 Sep 6, 2014
Yes, Wakefield's paper meant nothing. Ever read it? Clearly you never have. No hypothesis should include: "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." Right smack there in his paper.

Walker-Smith was not charged the same as Wakefield, either. Walker-Smith had a charge of misconduct. Wakefield had been gound guilty of three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children. Walker-Smith appealed the ruling, Wakefield didn't, chose to write a book instead. Go Figure.

Wakefield publicly connected himself to Hooker and Thompson, and because of that, everyone knows fraud follows. The only ones jumping up and down over this are anti vaxxers. The rest of us sit back and watch the show.
MMR AUTISM

Winnipeg, Canada

#21 Sep 7, 2014
friend wrote:
Yes, Wakefield's paper meant nothing. Ever read it? Clearly you never have. No hypothesis should include: "We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described." Right smack there in his paper.
Walker-Smith was not charged the same as Wakefield, either. Walker-Smith had a charge of misconduct. Wakefield had been gound guilty of three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally challenged children. Walker-Smith appealed the ruling, Wakefield didn't, chose to write a book instead. Go Figure.
Wakefield publicly connected himself to Hooker and Thompson, and because of that, everyone knows fraud follows. The only ones jumping up and down over this are anti vaxxers. The rest of us sit back and watch the show.
So why is Wakefield the anti-vaccine messiah then? Why does his paper prove no connection and why isn't he given credit for finding none, but instead is attacked for a study that many imply was an attempt to discredit GSK'S MMR? And if Walker-Smith was not guilty of misconduct why was he charged with it then exonerated? And where does you lap go when you stand up?

Since: Jan 07

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#22 Sep 7, 2014
I'm so glad you finally admit Wakefield is the anti vaxxers messiah. People followed Jim Jones and David Koresh who thought they were the messiah, look what happened to those who believed in them? Dead. But it's all anti vaxxers have, is Wakefield and it's so sad, any who believe in him will end up like any who ever followed a false prophet,, and inncocent people, too.
Why wasn't Wakefield given credit for finding 'none'? Really? Because everything about his paper was fraud, right down to who funded it. Even though Wakefield's paper clearly states that above, he frauded the public and never corrected anyone and still doesn't to this day. Anti vaxxers all over are complaining the CDC makes results what they want them to be, when the only one we know whose actually blantingly guilty of it is Wakefield. Had Walker-Smith been the lead scientist and conducted himself as Wakefield did, he'd have not been found not guilty in his appeal. Who knows if Wakefield kept it all a secret, but Walker-Smith claimed he knew nothing of the fraud Wakefield did, which then makes him not guilty. More or less, Walker-Smith wanted to part of it once it came out the fraud Wakefield was doing.

Two years ago you yourself and every other anti vaxxer was boasting about Wakefield being exonerated due to Walker-Smith. Hope reality hit and you realize once a fraud, always a fraud but if you're innocent, don't write a book. Appeal. Writing a book instead showed the world he was a fraud.

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