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Controversy over shocking people with autism, behavioral disorders

There are 37 comments on the CBS News story from Aug 5, 2014, titled Controversy over shocking people with autism, behavioral disorders. In it, CBS News reports that:

Reporting by CBS News Correspondent Anna Werner. For more, watch the CBS Evening News tonight at 6:30 p.m. Jennifer Msumba is on the autism spectrum.

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Very Concerned

Beverly, MA

#1 Aug 7, 2014
A treatment such as this might have worked, but it is obvious that people cannot be trusted to apply it sparingly and they have abused it and it can no longer be allowed.

Hopefully someone out there has the wisdom to know exactly how to get kids to stop self abusing.

Asking them nicely not to do so does not work. Positive reinforcement of other good behaviors does not work. Time-out does not work. Distractions do not work. Medications do not work and equally controversial.

So many things have been tried and nothing works. So who has an answer?
Kundrot dionkie

West Bridgewater, MA

#2 Aug 7, 2014
Slap in dionkie and turn up the juice!!!
ShockVaccineMake rs

Winnipeg, Canada

#3 Aug 7, 2014
Get their hearts started

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Aug 7, 2014
Very Concerned wrote:
A treatment such as this might have worked, but it is obvious that people cannot be trusted to apply it sparingly and they have abused it and it can no longer be allowed.
Hopefully someone out there has the wisdom to know exactly how to get kids to stop self abusing.
Asking them nicely not to do so does not work. Positive reinforcement of other good behaviors does not work. Time-out does not work. Distractions do not work. Medications do not work and equally controversial.
So many things have been tried and nothing works. So who has an answer?
And here I thought that shock treatments went the way of the other cruel treatments of the past.
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Another cruel treatment I heard about is the 'bleach' treatment. This is right up the alley of what some anti-vaxxers just might cruelly subject a ASD person to.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/sep/1...
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Thing is, if this was supposedly a cure. One would think that all ASD folks who swim in pools would have been supposedly "cured" of one's ASD. Especially since some of us tend to spend many a hour swimming every year.
DR FEEL

Winnipeg, Canada

#5 Aug 8, 2014

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Aug 8, 2014
Looks like Ross Coe did NOT read the last bit on one of the links he posted. I refer to the government one.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12415036... CONCLUSIONS:
We did not identify any association between MMR vaccination and encephalitis, aseptic meningitis, or autism
Kundrot dionkie

West Bridgewater, MA

#7 Aug 8, 2014
Strap him down and light him up!!!
DUH IM Sangelia

Winnipeg, Canada

#8 Aug 8, 2014
Sangelia wrote:
Looks like Ross Coe did NOT read the last bit on one of the links he posted. I refer to the government one.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12415036... CONCLUSIONS:
We did not identify any association between MMR vaccination and encephalitis, aseptic meningitis, or autism
wrong bozo. There's more to that study than the bogus conclusion.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#9 Aug 8, 2014
Ross Coe is correct, there is more than the conclusion. It's called the Results:
RESULTS:
Of the 535 544 children who were vaccinated, 199 were hospitalized for encephalitis, 161 for aseptic meningitis, and 352 for autistic disorders. In 9 children with encephalitis and 10 with meningitis, the disease developed within 3 months of vaccination, revealing no increased occurrence within this designated risk period. We detected no clustering of hospitalizations for autism after vaccination. None of the autistic children made hospital visits for inflammatory bowel diseases.

Gotta love it when anti vaxxers debunk themselves! That's what they get when they only read titles, not the study itself. Cant get any better than that, can it?!
Kundrot dionkie

West Bridgewater, MA

#10 Aug 8, 2014
Yes it can!!! Strap dionkie down and light him up!!!
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#11 Aug 9, 2014
friend wrote:
Ross Coe is correct, there is more than the conclusion. It's called the Results:
RESULTS:
Of the 535 544 children who were vaccinated, 199 were hospitalized for encephalitis, 161 for aseptic meningitis, and 352 for autistic disorders. In 9 children with encephalitis and 10 with meningitis, the disease developed within 3 months of vaccination, revealing no increased occurrence within this designated risk period. We detected no clustering of hospitalizations for autism after vaccination. None of the autistic children made hospital visits for inflammatory bowel diseases.
Gotta love it when anti vaxxers debunk themselves! That's what they get when they only read titles, not the study itself. Cant get any better than that, can it?!
It is obvious that Ross Coe only read the first sentence in the Results section. The rest of it would have been far beyond his powers of comprehension.

This is why he always ends up debunking himself.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Aug 9, 2014
ric99 wrote:
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It is obvious that Ross Coe only read the first sentence in the Results section. The rest of it would have been far beyond his powers of comprehension.
This is why he always ends up debunking himself.
That is why I posted the conclusion sentence from one of the links. Because it debunks the vaccine-autism link that anti-vaxxers are claiming is supposedly true.
Thanks

Winnipeg, Canada

#13 Aug 9, 2014
friend wrote:
Ross Coe is correct, there is more than the conclusion. It's called the Results:
RESULTS:
Of the 535 544 children who were vaccinated, 199 were hospitalized for encephalitis, 161 for aseptic meningitis, and 352 for autistic disorders. In 9 children with encephalitis and 10 with meningitis, the disease developed within 3 months of vaccination, revealing no increased occurrence within this designated risk period. We detected no clustering of hospitalizations for autism after vaccination. None of the autistic children made hospital visits for inflammatory bowel diseases.
Gotta love it when anti vaxxers debunk themselves! That's what they get when they only read titles, not the study itself. Cant get any better than that, can it?!
Thanks for showing again you can copy. what people have to focus on are the 712 victims of vaccine side effects and how this so called study disregards them. It also shows how regression works over a 3 month period while vaccine makers say anything after 2 weeks isn't due to the vaccines...DEBUNKED. This study DEBUNKS vaccines don't cause autism by listing them as occuring after vaccination..
Thanks

Winnipeg, Canada

#14 Aug 9, 2014
ric99 wrote:
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It is obvious that Ross Coe only read the first sentence in the Results section. The rest of it would have been far beyond his powers of comprehension.
This is why he always ends up debunking himself.
Its obvious ricDUH99 is a goof
Thanks

Winnipeg, Canada

#15 Aug 9, 2014
Sangelia wrote:
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That is why I posted the conclusion sentence from one of the links. Because it debunks the vaccine-autism link that anti-vaxxers are claiming is supposedly true.
Conclusions are the lie and can conclude what ever they want. Too bad your brain can't filter out trash science from reality.
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#16 Aug 9, 2014
As I said, Ross Coe can't even understand the meaning of simple statistics, even when it is explained in simple words' i.e. "We detected no clustering of hospitalizations for autism after vaccination."

If vaccination was the cause of regression into autism, there would be a clustering of regression cases within a few months after vaccination. There wasn't.

Is Ross Coe claiming that if a child is vaccinated at the age of 15 months and regresses into autism when he is 6 years old, that vaccination must be the cause? What about the kids who weren't vaccinated but still regressed into autism, as shown in the NEJM study?
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#17 Aug 9, 2014
The only trash science is that which occurs in Ross Coe's excuse for a brain.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#18 Aug 9, 2014
Hello, you were the one who copied and pasted the link to begin with. And about those who had encephalitis, aseptic meningitis (you may want to look that one up) and autism happened after 3 months of vaccination, leaving 3 months of exposure to anything to be the cause. YOU need to explain how the vaccine was the cause, and show how each child was or wasn't exposed to anything else that could had caused it. This study shows your debunked. It's your link, and because you didn't realize what the study was actually about, you cant simply change it's meaning to fit your thoeries. Hello.
As for how they can conclude what they want, most don't do that and if you looked at the whole study, not just a part of it, you'd know this. However it does happen, Wakefield would be guilty of it.
Kundrot dionkie

West Bridgewater, MA

#19 Aug 9, 2014
Light e'm up!!!

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Aug 9, 2014
Kundrot dionkie wrote:
Light e'm up!!!
Hello, Shock treatments like what they want here belong in the past with the other cruel treatments like lobotomies.
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So you think it is ok to hook children up to wires and shock them. Sorry, but that goes under child abuse.

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