How to survive this flu season: Q&A with the experts

Jan 11, 2013 Full story: Cleveland.com 19

No. Get one today. This flu season has arrived early and hit hard in Northeast Ohio and around the country.

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#2 Jan 12, 2013
The flu vaccine doesn't prevent contracting the flu although it does for some. You can still contract the flu when you've had the vaccine however, you wont have it as severe.
This year, more than one flu strain is prevalent, influenza A being the most common.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#4 Jan 12, 2013
LifeasIknowit wrote:
We have gotten flu shots and still got the flu
You're lucky you aren't paralized or have chronic fatique syndrome.

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#5 Jan 12, 2013
Those who had narcolepsy after the flu vaccine only happened in one area of the world (oh boy) and they all carried the gene for narcolepsy and anyone can contract GBS just by getting the flu virus or any virus but why everyone doesn't end up with GBS is why??? Bet you have no clue why.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#6 Jan 12, 2013
friend wrote:
Those who had narcolepsy after the flu vaccine only happened in one area of the world (oh boy) and they all carried the gene for narcolepsy and anyone can contract GBS just by getting the flu virus or any virus but why everyone doesn't end up with GBS is why??? Bet you have no clue why.
Cut the crap. If you have an explanation (snicker) spit it the fk out.

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#7 Jan 12, 2013
Anyone can look it up, just as I did. But then anyone can also deny the facts, as you do.
Sam

Candiac, Canada

#9 Jan 14, 2013
flu shot at best is effective only 60%. since viral strains change so quicky. no wonder even if u get va cinated, u still get the flu. not too forget the vaccine side effects some very permanent for rest of ur life.

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#10 Jan 14, 2013
Virus strains don't change, hello. It just so happens this flu season there is more than one strain present. Try like 3 or 4 different strains, although only one strain is most popular and most seen. 20 otherwise healthy children have died so far this season. They all ate well, had good immune systems yet modern medicine could not save them from dying.

That's why comments are made like the first comment here. "Had the flu vaccine, still got the flu". They clearly aren't aware how the vaccine works. So this years flu vaccine does not contain all strains floating around in that 'viral' air, and rarely does it but it is rare so many strains are floating around in one same season. Ever wonder what happens if you contract 2 strains at the same time?
MMR CAUSES AUTISM

Winnipeg, Canada

#11 Jan 15, 2013
friend wrote:
Virus strains don't change, hello. It just so happens this flu season there is more than one strain present. Try like 3 or 4 different strains, although only one strain is most popular and most seen. 20 otherwise healthy children have died so far this season. They all ate well, had good immune systems yet modern medicine could not save them from dying.
That's why comments are made like the first comment here. "Had the flu vaccine, still got the flu". They clearly aren't aware how the vaccine works. So this years flu vaccine does not contain all strains floating around in that 'viral' air, and rarely does it but it is rare so many strains are floating around in one same season. Ever wonder what happens if you contract 2 strains at the same time?
Listen to this TROLL. Virus Strains don't change. They mutate fool and each year the Pharmafia guesses which viral type will be dominant. Here the TROLL says 3 or 4 strains this year..DUH how can there be 3 or 4 and not just 1 that didn't change? EVER wonder what happens when you contact (not contract-duh) 2 strains asks the TROLL? Yeah they come together and become a different strain (CHANGE). What a dope.

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#12 Jan 15, 2013
Thanks for more comedy! By your logic there then should be a zillion strains. "What a dope".
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Winnipeg, Canada

#13 Jan 15, 2013
friend wrote:
Thanks for more comedy! By your logic there then should be a zillion strains. "What a dope".
I don't see the word zillion in my post. It shows you have comprehension problems as well as issue of basic honesty.
sgg51

Macon, GA

#14 Feb 2, 2013
Vaccines are unproven and have good potential to cause death and lifelong disabilities. This is only the tip of the ice burg. Look up the 2002 Simpson wood document that was obtained through the freedom of information act. It was a secretive meeting between the FDA, EPA and Pharmaceuticals and admitted that the relationship between autism and increase in vaccination is linear. The more shots they gave to our children the more autism that appeared. In the mid-70s, 1 in 10,000 were diagnosed with ASD (Autistic Spectrum Disorder) and today CDC documents state that 1 in 85 are autistic. It was discovered in a large population of Amish in PA that there was not one autistic person. The Amish do not vaccinate. QUESTION! If mass immunization is credited with the disappearance of disease in the U.S., one must ask why did disease disappear at the same time in Europe without mass immunization?. Disease was wiped out by the 1950's as proven by graphs created with the world government’s data, before many of the vaccines were introduced and this occurred because of hand washing, sanitation, improved nutrition and less crowded habitats. This is evident where disease still persists in the poorer third world countries such as India and Africa. We would be far better off investing in self-sustaining agriculture, sewer systems and clean drinking water. Ignorance is bliss for the FDA and Pharmaceuticals and is detrimental to us. The CDC admits that the development of antibodies does not guarantee immunity. That is because receiving a vaccine only stimulates one-half of the immune system, the humoral (the production of antibodies) and it is against Gods laws and natures laws. You were born with 3 primary defenses, the skin, the respiratory and the digestive system. When you inject foreign material including thimerosal (still in flu vaccines), aluminum (both are neurotoxic), formaldehyde,(carcinogenic), Polysorbate 80 (proven to cause infertility),diploid cells( some type of aborted fetus tissue cells that the virus is cultivated on) other foreign DNA and many other chemicals and toxins into your body, your immune system is weakened and systemic inflammation does occur. Inflammation is more severe in some than others causing many of the diseases, lifelong disabilities and death that occur every year. You need both the humoral (antibodies) and cellular (killer B and T cells) for the immune system to fight of the disease. This only occurs with naturally acquired illness, the way God and nature intended it to happen and you end up with lifelong immunity and every time you run into someone who has that specific disease your immune system is naturally boosted. First of all, 80% of all flu like illnesses are caused by over 200 different viruses. This knocks the percentage of people who get influenza type A or type B to 20%. So if the medical community is claiming a 62% success rate against influenza and that is in a perfect match for the year of influenza A and influenza B as in 2012-2013 season is that comes out to a 12% efficacy against all flu like illnesses. The CDC states that it takes 33 vaccinated people to prevent 1 flu case in a perfect match and it takes 100 vaccinated people to prevent 1 case of the flu in a typical non matching year.

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#15 Feb 2, 2013
Nice try. You get your info from Natural News and Mercola! One,the Amish do vaccinate. Two, the autism rates are an estimate. Three, If hand washing, sanitation, improved nutrition and less crowded habitats was true, no one would ever get the flu or the common cold. Four, Thimerosal is no longer in flu vaccines for children or pregnant women. Five, your own body naturally produces more formaldehyde than what's in vaccines. Six, aluminum salts are in many products. And seven, you wasted a bunch of typing for nothing.
Nice to know where your 'education' comes from! Scare tactics and people who make a profit off it.
Autism 4 Dummies

Winnipeg, Canada

#16 Feb 3, 2013
sgg51 wrote:
Vaccines are unproven and have good potential to cause death and lifelong disabilities. This is only the tip of the ice burg. Look up the 2002 Simpson wood document that was obtained through the freedom of information act. It was a secretive meeting between the FDA, EPA and Pharmaceuticals and admitted that the relationship between autism and increase in vaccination is linear. The more shots they gave to our children the more autism that appeared. In the mid-70s, 1 in 10,000 were diagnosed with ASD (Autistic Spectrum Disorder) and today CDC documents state that 1 in 85 are autistic. It was discovered in a large population of Amish in PA that there was not one autistic person. The Amish do not vaccinate. QUESTION! If mass immunization is credited with the disappearance of disease in the U.S., one must ask why did disease disappear at the same time in Europe without mass immunization?. Disease was wiped out by the 1950's as proven by graphs created with the world government’s data, before many of the vaccines were introduced and this occurred because of hand washing, sanitation, improved nutrition and less crowded habitats. This is evident where disease still persists in the poorer third world countries such as India and Africa. We would be far better off investing in self-sustaining agriculture, sewer systems and clean drinking water. Ignorance is bliss for the FDA and Pharmaceuticals and is detrimental to us. The CDC admits that the development of antibodies does not guarantee immunity. That is because receiving a vaccine only stimulates one-half of the immune system, the humoral (the production of antibodies) and it is against Gods laws and natures laws. You were born with 3 primary defenses, the skin, the respiratory and the digestive system. When you inject foreign material including thimerosal (still in flu vaccines), aluminum (both are neurotoxic), formaldehyde,(carcinogenic), Polysorbate 80 (proven to cause infertility),diploid cells( some type of aborted fetus tissue cells that the virus is cultivated on) other foreign DNA and many other chemicals and toxins into your body, your immune system is weakened and systemic inflammation does occur. Inflammation is more severe in some than others causing many of the diseases, lifelong disabilities and death that occur every year. You need both the humoral (antibodies) and cellular (killer B and T cells) for the immune system to fight of the disease. This only occurs with naturally acquired illness, the way God and nature intended it to happen and you end up with lifelong immunity and every time you run into someone who has that specific disease your immune system is naturally boosted. First of all, 80% of all flu like illnesses are caused by over 200 different viruses. This knocks the percentage of people who get influenza type A or type B to 20%. So if the medical community is claiming a 62% success rate against influenza and that is in a perfect match for the year of influenza A and influenza B as in 2012-2013 season is that comes out to a 12% efficacy against all flu like illnesses. The CDC states that it takes 33 vaccinated people to prevent 1 flu case in a perfect match and it takes 100 vaccinated people to prevent 1 case of the flu in a typical non matching year.
AWESOME POST.
Autism 4 Dummies

Winnipeg, Canada

#17 Feb 3, 2013
friend wrote:
Nice try. You get your info from Natural News and Mercola! One,the Amish do vaccinate. Two, the autism rates are an estimate. Three, If hand washing, sanitation, improved nutrition and less crowded habitats was true, no one would ever get the flu or the common cold. Four, Thimerosal is no longer in flu vaccines for children or pregnant women. Five, your own body naturally produces more formaldehyde than what's in vaccines. Six, aluminum salts are in many products. And seven, you wasted a bunch of typing for nothing.
Nice to know where your 'education' comes from! Scare tactics and people who make a profit off it.
EIGHT: DUH!
Mecki

Bethlehem, PA

#18 Feb 3, 2013
friend wrote:
Nice try. You get your info from Natural News and Mercola! One,the Amish do vaccinate. Two, the autism rates are an estimate. Three, If hand washing, sanitation, improved nutrition and less crowded habitats was true, no one would ever get the flu or the common cold. Four, Thimerosal is no longer in flu vaccines for children or pregnant women. Five, your own body naturally produces more formaldehyde than what's in vaccines. Six, aluminum salts are in many products. And seven, you wasted a bunch of typing for nothing.
Nice to know where your 'education' comes from! Scare tactics and people who make a profit off it.
I had been getting the flu every year since I was around 11 years old. The older I got, the sicker I would get every time I got the flu. I took all the precautions as I got older but still got sick. The bacteria is probably everywhere and in the air we breathe so there's not much you can do about that. I also think some people are more prone to get the flu than others. Some of us just have better immunity. The last flu bug I had almost killed me and that was when the doctor strongly suggested I get a flu shot every year. That was 10 years ago and for me it was a life saver. I only remember one time when I had a slight cold, but other than that, no flu. I'm not saying it's good for everyone, but I personally don't know what I would have done without it.

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#19 Feb 4, 2013
The thing with the above which 'Sherrie'(AKA sgg51) is they try to confuse the readers with mass info which includes many topics and many vaccines. They assume and bank people wont know any better (like Winnipeg) and look each individual item up. Most of what they posted is off-topic, except what was given about the flu vaccine.

The thing with the flu vaccine is, it's a virus, not bacteria, and it is air borne. That's why sanitation like running water and toilets have little to do with it or preventing contracting it. Also, they have a flaw in that 200 viruses that cause flu-like illness. You cant throw in that 200 figure when they can test for which flu virus a person has, and which is prominent. And no one yet has ever said the flu vaccine this year is a perfect match. Had they ever made that claim, the percent wouldn't be 62. Hello. The vaccine itself contains a certain amount of viruses, a prediction of what virus might be prominent. Many years they get it wrong.

Anti vaxxers such as Sherrie hope you listen to them rather than your own medical doctor, and choose not to vaccinate off of misinfor scare tactics and unproven non facts. People has such should be charged with malpractice and responsible for any who died after listening to them. It surely would put an end to such people who clearly don't understand biology of the human body, and spread scare tactics.
Autism 4 Dummies

Winnipeg, Canada

#20 Feb 4, 2013
friend wrote:
The thing with the above which 'Sherrie'(AKA sgg51) is they try to confuse the readers with mass info which includes many topics and many vaccines. They assume and bank people wont know any better (like Winnipeg) and look each individual item up. Most of what they posted is off-topic, except what was given about the flu vaccine.
The thing with the flu vaccine is, it's a virus, not bacteria, and it is air borne. That's why sanitation like running water and toilets have little to do with it or preventing contracting it. Also, they have a flaw in that 200 viruses that cause flu-like illness. You cant throw in that 200 figure when they can test for which flu virus a person has, and which is prominent. And no one yet has ever said the flu vaccine this year is a perfect match. Had they ever made that claim, the percent wouldn't be 62. Hello. The vaccine itself contains a certain amount of viruses, a prediction of what virus might be prominent. Many years they get it wrong.
Anti vaxxers such as Sherrie hope you listen to them rather than your own medical doctor, and choose not to vaccinate off of misinfor scare tactics and unproven non facts. People has such should be charged with malpractice and responsible for any who died after listening to them. It surely would put an end to such people who clearly don't understand biology of the human body, and spread scare tactics.
SPAMOLA. You forgot to include serious side effects that include death and neurological injury which many experience from vaccines including flu shots. People like friend of Pharma like to leave out side effects as if they never happen. Those she calls anti-vaxxers are victims of vaccine injury, so they are not anti-vaccine. What we want is to inform people that people like friend will not be there to help you or your child after serious injury, and neither will the FDA, CDC or Pharma. And if you complain about vaccine injury, you suddenly become labelled a radical anti-vaxxer. So the fluff friend presents is inaccurate but thats her thing, misinformation.

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#21 Feb 4, 2013
I did not leave out side effects, it's common knowlegde to everyone that every thing does have side effects.
An anti vaxxer is one, regardless of their own child, attempts to prevent others from vaccination by use of scare tactic and false information. Since you think the scare tactics are 'awesome' followed by side effects without prove of who acquires those side effects and the very scary 'death', you must then be 'a pal' of Wakefield and Natural news and Mercola, and an anti vaxxer.

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#22 Feb 4, 2013
friend wrote:
I did not leave out side effects, it's common knowlegde to everyone that every thing does have side effects.
An anti vaxxer is one, regardless of their own child, attempts to prevent others from vaccination by use of scare tactic and false information. Since you think the scare tactics are 'awesome' followed by side effects without prove of who acquires those side effects and the very scary 'death', you must then be 'a pal' of Wakefield and Natural news and Mercola, and an anti vaxxer.
You should proof read your rubbish. I can't even sort out what your saying. But thats what most of your rants are like.

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