Finding the gene behind autism

Oct 4, 2013 Full story: Brain Physics 29

Autism is clearly hereditary, but researchers have struggled to find the link between the condition and specific genes.

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Ray

Brossard, Canada

#2 Oct 4, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
this is CLEARLY A LIE. Gene studies have AT BEST identified 20% inherited. Others 3-9%. So to say CLEARLY INHERITED is a LIE. But this is misinformation is spread to the public, through trash media and trash science. We are to believe what we are told, just like in the Soviet Union and China. Who's behind it? Vaccine makers and pushers who are battling the truth about vaccines and are losing $$$$ to potential consumers, plus they want to avoid lawsuits and compensation payouts.
there is no genes, only bad vaccines

Since: Jan 07

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#3 Oct 4, 2013
Too bad anti vaxxers cant understand what they read, if they read it at all.

“Autism is considered one of the most inheritable neurological disorders, but it is also the most complex,”.

It's only anti vaxxers who have to blame something and gain a large payday who deny the facts. No matter. They will never win a lawsuit and they are loosing every day to genetics of autism.

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#5 Oct 5, 2013
What anti vaxxers wont tell you is 10 years ago they had found no genes for autism, yet that lack of genetics in no way pointed to vaccines. Genetics is very complex and can take years to find. Every day they're finding more and more genetics in autism so don't rely on what they haven't found yet as meaning anything.
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#6 Oct 5, 2013
Facts:-

Have scientific studies shown that gene mutations can cause autism? YES.

Are scientific studies finding more and more gene mutations that can cause autism? YES.

Have any genuine scientific studies shown that vaccines can cause autism? NO.

Is there a new word that the Winnipeg dummy could usefully learn? Answer: Yes, the word is FACTS.

Does the Winnipeg dummy have enough intelligence to learn this new word? NO.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#7 Oct 5, 2013
friend wrote:
Too bad anti vaxxers cant understand what they read, if they read it at all.
“Autism is considered one of the most inheritable neurological disorders, but it is also the most complex,”.
It's only anti vaxxers who have to blame something and gain a large payday who deny the facts. No matter. They will never win a lawsuit and they are loosing every day to genetics of autism.
he cant read this vaccine pusher. there is no genes. if there is tell us exactly how many of autism cases can be explained by genetics. as far as we know thats 15% max with all sorts of methods. let go of how complex they are. it is the vaccines and we understand why they push for this genetic theory to dissipate public fear of vaccines Which are causing a havoc

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#8 Oct 5, 2013
ric99 wrote:
Facts:-
Have scientific studies shown that gene mutations can cause autism? YES.
Are scientific studies finding more and more gene mutations that can cause autism? YES.
Have any genuine scientific studies shown that vaccines can cause autism? NO.
Is there a new word that the Winnipeg dummy could usefully learn? Answer: Yes, the word is FACTS.
Does the Winnipeg dummy have enough intelligence to learn this new word? NO.
This would apply to any and all anti vaxxers. The only theory out there is vaccines; genetics is an actual fact.

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#10 Oct 5, 2013
Except that's an anti vaxxer wish list only.
Claim an association?? Get real. Genetics would be the cause, and things like environmental 'could' be the trigger. This would apply to things like celiac, which the inherited gene is the cause but one may never experience celiac without the trigger = gluten. This would not apply to autism. If it were simply vaccines as a cause, then every child who had vaccines would then have autism. Vaccines would affect each gender equally.

It would be far easier to prove vaccines cause autism than it would be to unravel genetics. But that's right, many studies have tried to show vaccines cause autism and failed miserably. Genetics can take many years to locate and find, however science is on it's way in doing so when they're in the process of a blood test to determine genetics at an age before a child even displays signs of autism. You can sit back and proclaim all you want and continue to name-call every poster. None of it changes the facts you simply refuse to face.
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#11 Oct 5, 2013
Look no further then vaccines. The public should not have to pay for the research of the pharmaceutical industry unless they receive 98 percent of the profit if the industry is an ALEC member
ric99

Louth, UK

#12 Oct 6, 2013
How many times does the Winnipeg dummy have to be told that environmental (or vaccine) triggers are not required for genes to mutate. Spontaneous gene mutation occurs at conception, so that all children have more than a hundred genes that they did not inherit from their parents.

If vaccines caused the mutations that resulted in autism, then studies comparing autism rates for vaccinated and unvaccinated kids would show higher autism rates among vaccinated kids, but they actually show NO DIFFERENCE in the rates.

Since: Jan 07

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#16 Oct 6, 2013
No USA vaccine court has paid out for 'vaccine cause mutation', ever. That is totally misinfo. Then there's those scare tactics. Thimerosal hasn't been in childhood vaccines for 11 years. Adjuvants have been used in vaccines years before Thimerosal ever was and, it's also used in other products people use daily. The human body naturally creates more formaldehyde daily than what's in a vaccine, and is essential in human metabolism. Of course vaccines affect all differently. For one, not every human being will build immunity however when it comes to anti vaxxers and toxins, yes every human reacts identically to toxins. Hello. That's why they call them what? Toxins. Anti vaxxers just don't get it. And of course, no anti vaxxer knows which vaccines contain Adjuvants and formaldehyde, and which don't. We also have already gone over parental accounts. No, it's not reliable and humans are susceptible to mass hysteria and power of suggestion. It's a human trait that goes as far back as the Salem witch hunts of the 1600's. Except these days, there's the added agenda of a huge payday.

So with all the name calling and personal attacks, Winnipeg still has offered no evidence other than to continue to confirm anti social behavior.
ric99

Boston, UK

#17 Oct 6, 2013
If the Winnipeg dummy had bothered to read up about gene mutations (sorry, I was forgetting that he never learned to read), he would have realized that there are three causes of gene mutation.
Hereditary mutations are inherited from one or both parents.
Spontaneous (or de Novo) mutations occur in the fertilized egg cell due to copying errors, and are therefore not inherited from either parent.
Acquired mutations are due to mutagens entering the body.

Therefore vaccines CANNOT cause spontaneous mutations by definition. If vaccines caused mutations they would by definition be acquired mutations. No vaccine caused acquired mutations that resulted in autism have ever been found, yet a number of hereditary and spontaneous mutations that are linked to autism have been identified.

Of course this level of scientific knowledge is well beyond the feeble abilities of the Winnipeg dummy's excuse for a brain to comprehend.

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#18 Oct 6, 2013
Scientific knowledge is beyond any anti vaxxer, since anti vaxxers are so bent on blame and a payday they like to make up their own science and definitions of it. No matter, their unfounded explanations make for good Sunday Funnies.
ric99

Scunthorpe, UK

#19 Oct 6, 2013
friend wrote:
Scientific knowledge is beyond any anti vaxxer, since anti vaxxers are so bent on blame and a payday they like to make up their own science and definitions of it. No matter, their unfounded explanations make for good Sunday Funnies.
What's the betting that the Winnipeg dummy will now claim that the gene mutation definitions were invented by Big pharma and forced on the geneticists? If so, it will be yet another good Sunday laugh.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#20 Oct 6, 2013
friend wrote:
Scientific knowledge is beyond any anti vaxxer, since anti vaxxers are so bent on blame and a payday they like to make up their own science and definitions of it. No matter, their unfounded explanations make for good Sunday Funnies.
What a garbage. according to you anybody who is for vaccine safety is anivaxxer waiting to get big money. Thats why no body vaccinates...pretty sure you are not waiting for your herd immunity.
Well tell you what: I doubt vaccines very much and for sure their safety. I dont vaccinate and I will leave with its consequences. You pretend vaccines dont have sideffects but you are the only fool and if check slightly you will realize many have been injured and not curable anymore. One of them being autism. So vaccinate for yourself and shut your mouth vaccine pusher

Since: Jan 07

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#23 Oct 6, 2013
Wrong. You first have to prove vaccines are not safe. You've failed to do so. And I'm not the one who keeps making claims of lawsuits, you are.
Wrong. Only a teeny tiny amount are not vaccinating. The majority are.
Wrong. No one care what your personal choice is.
Wrong. I have many many times talked about vaccine potential side effects. It's anti vaxxers who deny side effects ever existed.
Wrong. Vaccines have not been proven to cause autism. That's on the anti vaxxers wishlist.
Wrong. I have never once pushed vaccines. I have many many times mentioned choice and exemptions.

True. Anti vaxxers are rude, and anti social when they are debunked.
True. Anti vaxxers attempt to bully their unfounded theories and inflict it upon all.
True. On almost all topics, Anti vaxxers get their abusive posts deleted.
True. Anti vaxxers have no evidence to back up their claims.
True. Anti vaxxers invent their own science and definitions of it, and abuse science to fit their conspriacy theories.
True. Anti vaxxers rely on Wakefield!

You've been debunked.

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#24 Oct 6, 2013
In th USA, thimerosal is not in vaccines, and any independant lab can test it's contents. HellooOOoo!
Nice try about third word countries. You do realize there are tons of Pharma's world-wide, and where's the proof about those faulty vaccines??
Vaccine acquired mutations have never been compensated in vaccine court. Back up your claim. I can hardly wait for more Sunday Funnies.

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#27 Oct 6, 2013
Actually, yes I have given that info however it has nothing to do with your evidence of that vaccine acquired mutations. Just another attempt to abuse a poster to side track the fact you have no proof. Now, if you really want to know about me and my child and vaccines, all you have to do is ask nicely. But keep in mind, everyone has a right to make vaccine choice without being attack for their choices.

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#30 Oct 7, 2013
I see all off topic links than evidence to support your 'Vaccine acquired mutations' being compensated.
Link 1: The point? Notice a side effect isn't autism.
Link 2: Whale. A clue where anti vaxxers get their info.
Link 3: Dead link and another clue where anti vaxxers get their info.
Link 4: First off, Tenpenny is mentioned. How did they test to see Thimerosal in the right side of his brain and the residue of six vaccines in his liver?? Quantum physics. Surprised no anti vaxxer caught that. Case study, no reference to the actual study either.

Still waiting for those now Monday Funnies.
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#31 Oct 7, 2013
The Winnipeg dummy claims that by replying to my post he has proved that he can read. However, reading involves actually understanding what the words mean, and from his replies, he clearly does NOT understand what the words in my post mean. Therefore the Winnipeg dummy can't read, as he fails the comprehension test.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#34 Oct 8, 2013
friend wrote:
Scientific knowledge is beyond any anti vaxxer, since anti vaxxers are so bent on blame and a payday they like to make up their own science and definitions of it. No matter, their unfounded explanations make for good Sunday Funnies.
vaccines causing autism is a fact...your genetic studies are just a speculation for which you have no number

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