School board resists home-schooling

Feb 28, 2012 Full story: CBC News 30

A Montreal mother said her son's former school principal threatened to call youth protection services after she pulled her son out of his high school and began home-schooling him.

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Kick Deer In the Crotch

Winnipeg, Canada

#1 Feb 28, 2012
John F Kennedy high school in Montreal? Who chose that stupid name.

“Tell the truth, then run”

Since: Mar 11

New York, NY

#2 Feb 29, 2012
Kick Deer In the Crotch wrote:
John F Kennedy high school in Montreal? Who chose that stupid name.
It's not a stupid name, although it's a bit odd that a school in Canada would choose the name of an American president instead of a Canadian one.

Since: Jan 07

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#3 Feb 29, 2012
Canadians Hate American's.'Kick Deer In the Crotch' and 'FBOMBER' are one in the same.

http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/winnipeg-mb/TNC...

Since: Jan 07

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#6 Feb 29, 2012
More name-calling. Tsk Tsk
Kick S B in the crotch

Winnipeg, Canada

#7 Feb 29, 2012
School board fails child and wants to continue. Sounds like Minnesota. Wakefield should go see this Mom.

Since: Jan 07

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#8 Feb 29, 2012
Sounds like Canada has poor programs and lacks educational services for those with, and doesn't really approve of Home schooling. Guess that's what the family chose a US-based online high school program
Kick S B in the crotch

Winnipeg, Canada

#9 Feb 29, 2012
friend wrote:
Sounds like Canada has poor programs and lacks educational services for those with, and doesn't really approve of Home schooling. Guess that's what the family chose a US-based online high school program
OK Sherlocke

“Tell the truth, then run”

Since: Mar 11

New York, NY

#11 Mar 1, 2012
Pharma Maims Kills wrote:
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Canada has a Prime Minister not a president. They are just as corrupt and let Pharma and any corporate entity maim and kill us though. I imagine we've had children of bootleggers in government, but not as famous as the Kennedy gang.
Some countries have both a president and prime minister,I thought Canada was one of them.My mistake.

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#13 Mar 1, 2012
If I ever made a mistake, I'd let you know.
Fact is, who cares about the name of the school. It' about school laws and policies for Canada.

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#15 Mar 1, 2012
More anti vaxxer personal attacks.
Tsk tsk. That really contributes to the topic.
frienduh

Winnipeg, Canada

#16 Mar 1, 2012
friend wrote:
More anti vaxxer personal attacks.
Tsk tsk. That really contributes to the topic.
Where's YOUR CONTRIBUTION?

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#17 Mar 1, 2012
Post #8, which is on topic.
Canada Maims Kills

Winnipeg, Canada

#18 Mar 1, 2012
friend wrote:
Post #8, which is on topic.
One meesly comment that means zero. Thanks for making the world a better place..snicker

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#19 Mar 1, 2012
I was on topic, you never are
frienduh

Winnipeg, Canada

#20 Mar 1, 2012
friend wrote:
I was on topic, you never are
You keep ruining debate with your insults
01imjustsayin@gm ail.com

Mobile, AL

#22 Jan 28, 2013
This happened to me when I decided to homeschool my first grader. An incident took place at my daughter's school in which she was forced to bend over and touch her toes so that her teacher and the school nurse could take a look at her bottom. Supposedly for a "rash" which in all actuality is a birth mark. The only reason I couldn't press charges is because her pants were left up and they didn't physically touch here "there". My baby was frightened and hid in the corner until they forced her to bend over anyway. She was only six at the time. Nobody gave me a note or a phone call. The only way I knew was by talking to my daughter. Thank God for bold children. I followed the proper channels all the to the assistant superintendent of education here in mobile co, AL. I even contacted an attorney. Nobody would help me. The school system only threatened me in the same way they did you. I eventually did get my child out of the system, and she has been homeschooling ever since. She's in third grade now and doing just fine.

Since: Jan 07

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#23 Jan 29, 2013
The thing is, is when schools suspect things, they're mandated to take action and they just don't call the parents prior. Had there been an untreated rash, a parent could get in trouble for neglect. An example would be my neighbor who was sick and tired of trying to potty train his kid, and figured not treating the rash would in turn make the child some how become potty trained. Of course the idea didn't work, but he rash was detected by the school.

If the school didn't know the spot was a birth mark prior, they did know after visually looking. The reason why you couldn't press charges is due to that mandate of investigating suspicions of abuse or neglect, touching her 'there' or not.

Since: Jan 13

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#24 Jan 29, 2013
friend wrote:
The thing is, is when schools suspect things, they're mandated to take action and they just don't call the parents prior. Had there been an untreated rash, a parent could get in trouble for neglect. An example would be my neighbor who was sick and tired of trying to potty train his kid, and figured not treating the rash would in turn make the child some how become potty trained. Of course the idea didn't work, but he rash was detected by the school.

If the school didn't know the spot was a birth mark prior, they did know after visually looking. The reason why you couldn't press charges is due to that mandate of investigating suspicions of abuse or neglect, touching her 'there' or not.
I don't care how much red tape the school system chooses to hide behind. They could have simply asked. Or requested a note from my daughter's doctor. Something. They may "act" as legal guardian for my child from the moment I drop her off at their doorstep to be EDUCATED to the moment I pick her back up. However, they should respect my rights as a parent. Or let alone my child's rights as a human being and American citizen. Just because she's little doesn't mean her rights up and fly out the window. Just because some children are neglected, etc. doesn't mean all are. There is, has never been, will never be any abuse or neglect in our household. They would have known this had they gone through the proper channels. I sincerely believe that in their attempt not to let children fall through the cracks of society, they overstep their bounds as EDUCATORS. The goal of the public school system is to EDUCATE our children. Not investigate suspicions of abuse. Of which, in this case, there were NONE. If they suspect abuse of any kind, they should report it. Furthermore, there were no other warning signs prior to this incident seeing as how my child was/is NOT being abused. They had absolutely NO right to violate my baby in such a manner. None of this really matters, though, since both of my children are now home-schooled. I only used my story as an example of how corrupt the school system can be. Not all schools are bad. That doesn't mean I'm willing to take a chance with my kids again either.

Since: Jan 07

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#25 Jan 29, 2013
No matter if you like it or not, it wasn't an example of a corrupt school system, or a persons rights.
Certain people are mandated to do certain things and public schools are one of them. And protocol is, those manadated professionals don't call the parent and ask "is there abuse/ neglect in the house?". CPS would ask that. A school nurse is certainly qualified to check for injuries, had they seen any, they would had then contacted CPS if it qualified under the mandates. Now had a child been stung by a bee in the butt, the nurse would take a look at that, too.

Everyone should understand how those mandates work, and that when they (the school) suspect an injury, the school nurse is going to take a look.

As for the Canadian article itself, other countries don't have the same laws for home or alternative schooling.

Since: Jan 13

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#26 Jan 29, 2013
friend wrote:
No matter if you like it or not, it wasn't an example of a corrupt school system, or a persons rights.
Certain people are mandated to do certain things and public schools are one of them. And protocol is, those manadated professionals don't call the parent and ask "is there abuse/ neglect in the house?". CPS would ask that. A school nurse is certainly qualified to check for injuries, had they seen any, they would had then contacted CPS if it qualified under the mandates. Now had a child been stung by a bee in the butt, the nurse would take a look at that, too.

Everyone should understand how those mandates work, and that when they (the school) suspect an injury, the school nurse is going to take a look.

As for the Canadian article itself, other countries don't have the same laws for home or alternative schooling.
I honestly don't give a damn about school mandates. The fact remains that the way the powers that be choose to operate the school system should not spill over into the way I choose to run my home. In Finland, for example, the school system works directly with the parents to provide a better learning environment for the children. Finland, by the way, has the best public school system in the world. Their system is NOTHING like ours. That alone should tell you something. I can only assume from your stance on the matter that you are an educator. Perhaps your time would be better spend by doing just that. Educating.

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