Are childhood vaccines safe?

Mar 15, 2013 Full story: canada.com 38

While health officials tout studies showing no link between thimerosal and autism, critics allege that thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that is used to prevent bacteria growth in some multi-dose vials of vaccine, dramatically raises the risk of autism, a little understood mental health disorder that limits a person's ability to interact ... (more)

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Ray

Candiac, Canada

#1 Mar 16, 2013
no they are not. everyone knows that and that is why the dont vaccinate anymore. look at gsk flu vaccine and narcolepsy. look ar kids regressing into autism after vaccination. how much more is the public going to ignore this immune disease caused by vaccines fooled by psychologists as genetic defect.
ric99

Fotherby, UK

#2 Mar 16, 2013
Ray wrote:
no they are not. everyone knows that and that is why the dont vaccinate anymore. look at gsk flu vaccine and narcolepsy. look ar kids regressing into autism after vaccination. how much more is the public going to ignore this immune disease caused by vaccines fooled by psychologists as genetic defect.
Despite the overwhelming peer reviewed evidence to the contrary, another Canadian nutcase with the scientific brain of a retarded flea still insists that vaccines cause autism. This is no better than believing that fairies live at the bottom of the garden. In fact it's far more dangerous if it results in reductions in vaccination numbers.

Since: Jan 07

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#3 Mar 16, 2013
Sorry, but the majority do vaccinate. That flu vaccine is optional, here's a few facts.
More than 30 million doses were given during the H1N1 flu 2009- 2010. Those that acquired narcolepsy ALL were living in Europe (no other cses presented any where else) and there was about 8 cases. They all carried the narcolepsy gene. So had they actually contracted the flu, they'd still end up with narcolepsy. The vaccine didn't cause narcolepsy; the vaccine/ virus triggered it. Big difference.

As for the article, there is no study linking thimerosal to autism, or any vaccine itself to autism. The majority who have been vacinated do not have autism.

So keep on ignoring anti vaxxers who inflate the facts.
Vaccines Cause MS

Winnipeg, Canada

#5 Mar 16, 2013
friend wrote:
Sorry, but the majority do vaccinate. That flu vaccine is optional, here's a few facts.
More than 30 million doses were given during the H1N1 flu 2009- 2010. Those that acquired narcolepsy ALL were living in Europe (no other cses presented any where else) and there was about 8 cases. They all carried the narcolepsy gene. So had they actually contracted the flu, they'd still end up with narcolepsy. The vaccine didn't cause narcolepsy; the vaccine/ virus triggered it. Big difference.
As for the article, there is no study linking thimerosal to autism, or any vaccine itself to autism. The majority who have been vacinated do not have autism.
So keep on ignoring anti vaxxers who inflate the facts.
Stool sample.
ric99

Coningsby, UK

#6 Mar 16, 2013
Vaccines Cause MS wrote:
<quoted text> I thought that was you Mr 13 year old with cerebral palsy. Heard you got kicked off topics
Well think again. I'm not a 13 year old.

You have no answers to the points I raised, so you try to divert from the topic.
ric99

Boston, UK

#8 Mar 17, 2013
Then They Vaccinated wrote:
<quoted text> I do as I please so STFU
So you are admitting that because you haven’t any credible evidence that vaccines are the cause of autism, you try to divert from the topic.

Your contention is that because autism is usually diagnosed a few months after vaccinations, such as MMR, it is evidence that vaccines cause autism. This is no more credible than the belief in the Middle Ages that a comet appearing in the sky caused an outbreak of the plague a few months later. At least those people had the excuse that there were no peer reviewed studies at that time showing that comets didn't cause the plague. People like you have no such excuse, because you are fully aware that many peer reviewed studies exist showing no link between vaccines and autism, but you dismiss them all as being “junk science”, without giving any logical reason for doing so, merely because they don’t agree with what you desperately want to believe. You are pathetic.
Ray

Candiac, Canada

#9 Mar 17, 2013
ric99 wrote:
<quoted text>
Despite the overwhelming peer reviewed evidence to the contrary, another Canadian nutcase with the scientific brain of a retarded flea still insists that vaccines cause autism. This is no better than believing that fairies live at the bottom of the garden. In fact it's far more dangerous if it results in reductions in vaccination numbers.
check the link yourself, there is no doubt that vaccines cause immune disorders affceting brain directly. Even the vaccine manufacturer in this case admits it. You are the only one defending a lost cause for your benefits whatever monetary that may be.
http://www.google.ca/url...
Ray

Candiac, Canada

#10 Mar 17, 2013
friend wrote:
Sorry, but the majority do vaccinate. That flu vaccine is optional, here's a few facts.
More than 30 million doses were given during the H1N1 flu 2009- 2010. Those that acquired narcolepsy ALL were living in Europe (no other cses presented any where else) and there was about 8 cases. They all carried the narcolepsy gene. So had they actually contracted the flu, they'd still end up with narcolepsy. The vaccine didn't cause narcolepsy; the vaccine/ virus triggered it. Big difference.
As for the article, there is no study linking thimerosal to autism, or any vaccine itself to autism. The majority who have been vacinated do not have autism.
So keep on ignoring anti vaxxers who inflate the facts.
http://www.google.ca/url...

Get you facts straight. There was more than 8 cases, in hundrends. The flu vaccine sold by the same manufacturer where of two kinds sold in europe and America. It turns out that the aduvant AS03 is the main cause, inducing neuroinflammation. ust to say the same manufacturer, the same ingredients can not have control over their products and government is always three step behind: thus the rational for the autism cases today
Ray

Candiac, Canada

#11 Mar 17, 2013
Another link for those doubting vaccines causing autism:

http://www.google.ca/url...

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#12 Mar 17, 2013
And just where did GSK admit anything?
From your own link " Around 25 percent of Europeans are thought to have this genetic vulnerability." Other than that, the only real interesting thing from that link is "No-one wants to be the next Wakefield"!!!!

Try this link
http://news.yahoo.com/swine-flu-vaccine-linke...
"Of 22 of the cases in Finland tested so far, all were carrying a gene known to increase the risk for the condition"
Or
http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/t...
"Of the cases of narcolepsy tested so far in Finland (n=29), diagnosed during 2009-2010, all have that genotype."
The vaccine didn't cause narcolepsy, it triggered it. And narcolepsy is not an immune disorder, either. Big difference. And it was only ONE single vaccine that triggered narcolepsy, not 'vaccines'. You are the only one using scare tactics and misleading others.

Since: Jan 07

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#13 Mar 17, 2013
It was a typo, hello!!! But you're still wrong. They ALL carried the gene for narcolepsy. Of the cases of narcolepsy tested so far in Finland, diagnosed during 2009-2010, all have that genotype.
Ray wrote:
<quoted text>
Get you facts straight. There was more than 8 cases, in hundrends.
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#14 Mar 17, 2013
Ray wrote:
Another link for those doubting vaccines causing autism:
http://www.google.ca/url...
Oh, you mean the bit which says:-

"No-one wants to be the next Wakefield," said Mignot, referring to the now discredited British doctor Andrew Wakefield who sparked a decades-long backlash against the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) shot with false claims of links to autism.

Very clever of you, NOT.
DUH IM ric99

Winnipeg, Canada

#15 Mar 17, 2013
ric99 wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are admitting that because you haven’t any credible evidence that vaccines are the cause of autism, you try to divert from the topic.
Your contention is that because autism is usually diagnosed a few months after vaccinations, such as MMR, it is evidence that vaccines cause autism. This is no more credible than the belief in the Middle Ages that a comet appearing in the sky caused an outbreak of the plague a few months later. At least those people had the excuse that there were no peer reviewed studies at that time showing that comets didn't cause the plague. People like you have no such excuse, because you are fully aware that many peer reviewed studies exist showing no link between vaccines and autism, but you dismiss them all as being “junk science”, without giving any logical reason for doing so, merely because they don’t agree with what you desperately want to believe. You are pathetic.
What a friggin moron.I don't debate Neanderthals who think vaccines and comets are the same thing.
DUH IM ric99

Winnipeg, Canada

#16 Mar 17, 2013
Ray wrote:
<quoted text> check the link yourself, there is no doubt that vaccines cause immune disorders affceting brain directly. Even the vaccine manufacturer in this case admits it. You are the only one defending a lost cause for your benefits whatever monetary that may be.
http://www.google.ca/url...
Good one Ray. ric99 is another pro-pharma dufus like friend who refuse to acknowledge anything or provide links or information. This penis can't even understand that the word autism means autism.
DUH IM friend

Winnipeg, Canada

#17 Mar 17, 2013
friend wrote:
And just where did GSK admit anything?
From your own link " Around 25 percent of Europeans are thought to have this genetic vulnerability." Other than that, the only real interesting thing from that link is "No-one wants to be the next Wakefield"!!!!
Try this link
http://news.yahoo.com/swine-flu-vaccine-linke...
"Of 22 of the cases in Finland tested so far, all were carrying a gene known to increase the risk for the condition"
Or
http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/t...
"Of the cases of narcolepsy tested so far in Finland (n=29), diagnosed during 2009-2010, all have that genotype."
The vaccine didn't cause narcolepsy, it triggered it. And narcolepsy is not an immune disorder, either. Big difference. And it was only ONE single vaccine that triggered narcolepsy, not 'vaccines'. You are the only one using scare tactics and misleading others.
Cause, trigger, semantics.
DUH IM friend

Winnipeg, Canada

#18 Mar 17, 2013
ric99 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, you mean the bit which says:-
"No-one wants to be the next Wakefield," said Mignot, referring to the now discredited British doctor Andrew Wakefield who sparked a decades-long backlash against the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) shot with false claims of links to autism.
Very clever of you, NOT.
Its all pro-vacs have, the weak kangaroo court that juged Wakefield. What else you got? Here we have 3 links CONFIRMING the flu vac causes narcolepsy, a seizure like illness but we then have two bozo's defending vaccines instead of showing concern for victims. This only supports the vaccine autism connection showing that it harms the vulnerable and, it causes neurological injury. It shows vaccines should never be given to each child as a vaccine roulette and vaccine science and research is behind the times.

Since: Jan 07

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#19 Mar 17, 2013
You have two 'bozo's' trying to link this one vaccine to all vaccines (as they always do) even though the majority who had that one vaccine did not end up with narcolepsy and those that did, all carried the narcolepsy gene. 25 percent of European decent carries the gene, which explains why of the 30 million doses given, 800 had narcolepsy. They carried the gene, they're not a victim. They would have had narcolepsy eventually with or without the one vaccine.

If this has anything to do with the 'vaccine autism connection', it's the genetic predisposition. Thanks for pointing that out. It's a mighty thing to admit for an anti vaxxer.
ric99

Boston, UK

#20 Mar 17, 2013
DUH IM ric99 wrote:
<quoted text>What a friggin moron.I don't debate Neanderthals who think vaccines and comets are the same thing.
Where did I say that vaccines and comets are the same thing? I didn't you imbecile. But those who believe that vaccines cause autism are even more stupid than the Middle Ages people who believed that comets caused the plague, because peer reviewed studies have conclusively shown no links between vaccines and autism, whereas there were no studies done concerning possible links between comets and plague in the Middle Ages. You two Canadian imbeciles belong in the Stone Age, with your level of ignorance. Sorry, that's a bit insulting to Stone Age people.
Vaccines Triggered

Winnipeg, Canada

#21 Mar 17, 2013
friend wrote:
You have two 'bozo's' trying to link this one vaccine to all vaccines (as they always do) even though the majority who had that one vaccine did not end up with narcolepsy and those that did, all carried the narcolepsy gene. 25 percent of European decent carries the gene, which explains why of the 30 million doses given, 800 had narcolepsy. They carried the gene, they're not a victim. They would have had narcolepsy eventually with or without the one vaccine.
If this has anything to do with the 'vaccine autism connection', it's the genetic predisposition. Thanks for pointing that out. It's a mighty thing to admit for an anti vaxxer.
More nonsense from the Queen of Nonsense. She answers her own questions without even knowing it, a perfect DUH MOMENT. "Why don't all children get narcolepsy then...duh? " Oh all those who got narcolepsy had the N-gene..duh".
Ray

Candiac, Canada

#22 Mar 17, 2013
friend wrote:
You have two 'bozo's' trying to link this one vaccine to all vaccines (as they always do) even though the majority who had that one vaccine did not end up with narcolepsy and those that did, all carried the narcolepsy gene. 25 percent of European decent carries the gene, which explains why of the 30 million doses given, 800 had narcolepsy. They carried the gene, they're not a victim. They would have had narcolepsy eventually with or without the one vaccine.
If this has anything to do with the 'vaccine autism connection', it's the genetic predisposition. Thanks for pointing that out. It's a mighty thing to admit for an anti vaxxer.
friend wrote:
Sorry, but the majority do vaccinate. That flu vaccine is optional, here's a few facts.
More than 30 million doses were given during the H1N1 flu 2009- 2010. Those that acquired narcolepsy ALL were living in Europe (no other cses presented any where else) and there was about 8 cases. They all carried the narcolepsy gene. So had they actually contracted the flu, they'd still end up with narcolepsy. The vaccine didn't cause narcolepsy; the vaccine/ virus triggered it. Big difference.
As for the article, there is no study linking thimerosal to autism, or any vaccine itself to autism. The majority who have been vacinated do not have autism.
So keep on ignoring anti vaxxers who inflate the facts.
You are dumb, first you say it was 8 cases of narcolpsy and then you say as above 800. Get your numbers straight. Then come to table and eat with the grown ups.

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