What's behind the increase of autistic children?

The numbers sound epidemic. In 2007, more children were diagnosed with autism - the nation's fastest-growing developmental disorder - than with AIDS, diabetes and cancer combined. Full Story
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Ed Krutsinger

United States

#1 Feb 10, 2008
A valuable piece of information that does not come through to me clearly from this piece is whether the total number of young people -- future workers, parents, voters, soldiers, criminals, what have you -- with the broad spectrum of disorders is increasing, irrespective of the tag, the diagnosis, that may used to label them. Could this be yet another trend that should be causing us as a society or indeed as the human race alarm?
So Glad

Newport News, VA

#2 Feb 10, 2008
Don't know the answer to your question, Ed. I do know we've become a "label" happy nation. Seems as if we can label it, then we can do something about it. And if it doesn't fit an old label, like "quirky", then we'll shoehorn it into a new label, "autistic".
Personally, I think a lot of so called doctors and therapists are getting rich off of the autism diagonosis.
Mom of 2 Auties

Williamsburg, VA

#3 Feb 10, 2008
Dr. Thomas Montgomery is one of the worst physicians in this area when it comes to the diagnosis of Autistic Children. To use him as any kind of "expert" on the subject is laughable. He denies many children early intervention services by diagnosing them with everything under the sun EXCEPT for Autism...often leading parents on a wild goose chase for validation of their childrens disorder, and to gain services. As a parent of 2 autistic children I've seen it time and time again in my area.

Virginia schools need to step up in educating these children once and for all. Physicians like those at CHKD need to refer children to VCU and UVA immediately, instead of dragging families looking for answers through the mud and finally some validation needs to be given to biomedical treatments and dietary changes.

If you want to speak to someone knowledgeable on the subject of Autism I encourage you to seek out Dr. Mary Megson in Richmond and Dr. Eric Madren in VA Beach.
Benjamin Franklin

South El Monte, CA

#4 Feb 10, 2008
Mom of 2 Auties wrote:
Dr. Thomas Montgomery is one of the worst physicians in this area when it comes to the diagnosis of Autistic Children. To use him as any kind of "expert" on the subject is laughable. He denies many children early intervention services by diagnosing them with everything under the sun EXCEPT for Autism...often leading parents on a wild goose chase for validation of their childrens disorder, and to gain services. As a parent of 2 autistic children I've seen it time and time again in my area.
Virginia schools need to step up in educating these children once and for all. Physicians like those at CHKD need to refer children to VCU and UVA immediately, instead of dragging families looking for answers through the mud and finally some validation needs to be given to biomedical treatments and dietary changes.
If you want to speak to someone knowledgeable on the subject of Autism I encourage you to seek out Dr. Mary Megson in Richmond and Dr. Eric Madren in VA Beach.
I realize you have a problem having 2 children that are effected but your "demand" that Virginia schools need to step up in educating these children once and for all and Physicians like those at CHKD need to refer children to VCU and UVA immediately is a little strong. How did you have 2 effected children. Are they twins or did you try to have a "normal" child after the first one was diagnosed? If so with the lack of knowing what causes it having another is a very risky choice.

All this costs a lot of money. Why do you think that taxpayers should be responsible to fund your child's "special needs" education and expensive treatment at VCU and UVA?

There is a limited amount of funds for education and medical and to use excessive amounts of this money on just a few takes valuable resources and opportunities away from the majority who will suffer.

Nowhere is it in our founding documents that this type of public spending is required. Insurance, family, friends and your church can be resources and help. To expect, no demand that taxpayers do it is unreasonable. All we taxpayers are responsible for is the equal spending on each citizen in our educational system. Everyone is equal under our system and to afford some preferential treatment and public money is discriminatory and illegal.
Mom of 2 Auties

Williamsburg, VA

#5 Feb 11, 2008
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
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I realize you have a problem having 2 children that are effected but your "demand" that Virginia schools need to step up in educating these children once and for all and Physicians like those at CHKD need to refer children to VCU and UVA immediately is a little strong. How did you have 2 effected children. Are they twins or did you try to have a "normal" child after the first one was diagnosed? If so with the lack of knowing what causes it having another is a very risky choice.
All this costs a lot of money. Why do you think that taxpayers should be responsible to fund your child's "special needs" education and expensive treatment at VCU and UVA?
There is a limited amount of funds for education and medical and to use excessive amounts of this money on just a few takes valuable resources and opportunities away from the majority who will suffer.
Nowhere is it in our founding documents that this type of public spending is required. Insurance, family, friends and your church can be resources and help. To expect, no demand that taxpayers do it is unreasonable. All we taxpayers are responsible for is the equal spending on each citizen in our educational system. Everyone is equal under our system and to afford some preferential treatment and public money is discriminatory and illegal.
Thanks for your concern Mr. Franklin from California.
No, I didn't try to have a "normal" child after my child was diagnosed. I have 3 children, all of whom were born before the FIRST was diagnosed. My 2 autistic children are 18 months apart. I suggest you read up on "regressive" autism, where your child is developing typically until age 2 or even 3 before they regress into Autism.

I won't even comment on your response about public schools in Virginia - with your location being California. There is a wide discrepency of services between the two states. All I'm asking for is that Virginia schools step up and provide services equal to those of states like New York, NJ, or CA.
Friend

AOL

#6 Feb 11, 2008
I really love these comments.
Did you know why NCLB was created? Due to typical kids graduating and never knowing the basics, some couldn't even read or write. So, The Pres. decided to make the Public Education responsible for ALL kids in that system and create NCLB. Not only do our special ed kids need a little exra help, by golly so did the typical kids!(most of whom had no learning disability to account for why they knew nothing at graduation)
I also hate to tell you this, most parents already do rely on outside therapy for their special ed kids. One would be a fool to solely rely on the Public Educational System for this. All children have a right to a Public education regardless of race and disability, period.
VA is also a state known for lacking in this area.
It's hardly a demand. It is a right for all children.
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
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I realize you have a problem having 2 children that are effected but your "demand" that Virginia schools need to step up in educating these children once and for all and Physicians like those at CHKD need to refer children to VCU and UVA immediately is a little strong. How did you have 2 effected children. Are they twins or did you try to have a "normal" child after the first one was diagnosed? If so with the lack of knowing what causes it having another is a very risky choice.
All this costs a lot of money. Why do you think that taxpayers should be responsible to fund your child's "special needs" education and expensive treatment at VCU and UVA?
There is a limited amount of funds for education and medical and to use excessive amounts of this money on just a few takes valuable resources and opportunities away from the majority who will suffer.
Nowhere is it in our founding documents that this type of public spending is required. Insurance, family, friends and your church can be resources and help. To expect, no demand that taxpayers do it is unreasonable. All we taxpayers are responsible for is the equal spending on each citizen in our educational system. Everyone is equal under our system and to afford some preferential treatment and public money is discriminatory and illegal.
Educator

East Granby, CT

#7 Feb 11, 2008
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
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I realize you have a problem having 2 children that are effected but your "demand" that Virginia schools need to step up in educating these children once and for all and Physicians like those at CHKD need to refer children to VCU and UVA immediately is a little strong. How did you have 2 effected children. Are they twins or did you try to have a "normal" child after the first one was diagnosed? If so with the lack of knowing what causes it having another is a very risky choice.
All this costs a lot of money. Why do you think that taxpayers should be responsible to fund your child's "special needs" education and expensive treatment at VCU and UVA?
There is a limited amount of funds for education and medical and to use excessive amounts of this money on just a few takes valuable resources and opportunities away from the majority who will suffer.
Nowhere is it in our founding documents that this type of public spending is required. Insurance, family, friends and your church can be resources and help. To expect, no demand that taxpayers do it is unreasonable. All we taxpayers are responsible for is the equal spending on each citizen in our educational system. Everyone is equal under our system and to afford some preferential treatment and public money is discriminatory and illegal.
The taxpayers fund the education of special education students because it is the law. The law is called the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, or IDEA. It is their right to be educated. Your comments were inappropriate.
Friend

AOL

#10 Feb 11, 2008
oooh my my. That certainly was a mouthful and I bet took lots of nerve to post so all could read. If one cant be constructive in their postings, one should not post at all (more so when they're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base)
Ivar T

Gjøvik, Norway

#11 Feb 12, 2008
It's so damn dumb that people actually believe that the actual rate was ever as low as 1 in 10 000.

Imagine how public knowledge would have been like if it was that few being diagnosed?

“I pity the fool !!”

Since: Jan 08

Milford, VA

#12 Feb 12, 2008
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
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Just because it's the law doesn't make it right. These partents have these defective kids and then expect everyone else to take care of them. Inappropriate? Hardly.
You, sir are a moron. You do know that what was probably the greatest mind of the last century (or second) was a "defective" as you put it (Stephen Hawking). Thank God there are "defective" people like him to expand human thought and improve the world we live in, as opposed to ones like you who hinder and reduce it.
Friend

AOL

#13 Feb 12, 2008
Ivar T wrote:
It's so damn dumb that people actually believe that the actual rate was ever as low as 1 in 10 000.
Imagine how public knowledge would have been like if it was that few being diagnosed?
Actually, the rate that was 'counted', hundreds and thousdands were never 'counting' into rates. And it's still the same at the present time. Those rates always were and still is quite inaccurate.
Benjamin Franklin

Antioch, CA

#14 Feb 12, 2008
Think 1st wrote:
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You, sir are a moron. You do know that what was probably the greatest mind of the last century (or second) was a "defective" as you put it (Stephen Hawking). Thank God there are "defective" people like him to expand human thought and improve the world we live in, as opposed to ones like you who hinder and reduce it.
This is not directed at the effected kids. It's directed at their parents and others who demand that others pay for the medical and educational needs of their kids up and above what is afforded other American children. This is discriminatory and very wrong. All are to be treated (funded) equally as every citizen is equal under our constitution and laws.

Many people have very serious medical problems yet they don't "demand" what I see on this post. Special treatment should never be granted for any reason. When we have this special treatment it soon gets completely out of hand as others see the freebies and want their share also. who's to say they don't have a legitimate claim?

“I pity the fool !!”

Since: Jan 08

Hampton, VA

#15 Feb 12, 2008
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
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This is not directed at the effected kids. It's directed at their parents and others who demand that others pay for the medical and educational needs of their kids up and above what is afforded other American children. This is discriminatory and very wrong. All are to be treated (funded) equally as every citizen is equal under our constitution and laws.
Many people have very serious medical problems yet they don't "demand" what I see on this post. Special treatment should never be granted for any reason. When we have this special treatment it soon gets completely out of hand as others see the freebies and want their share also. who's to say they don't have a legitimate claim?
You very clearly referred to these children as "defective", which regardless of the rest of your post demonstrates that you feel they are inferior to other children.

These children require extra assistance in being able to achieve their potential, basic things that you and I take for granted. Sometimes the assistance the child needs does cost additional funds (in a classroom setting, they do not get extra money for medical costs, and that is the biggest burden for a lot of these families. Especially since they would never say caring for the child was a burden).

The contributions these individuals can make to society with the aid, far outweighs any costs incurred. Again I use the example of Stephen Hawking.

No other child is shorted in the funding spent on them to be able to achieve equal results. Save your campaigning against government money leeches for those on welfare that do nothing to try and improve themselves and advance their lot in life. At least these children's parents pay taxes.
Benjamin Franklin

Antioch, CA

#16 Feb 12, 2008
I guess there's no use trying to debate a bunch of socialists who think they are entitled to take other peoples money because they think they have a good reason.

I want a new SUV. Can I extort some of your money to help pay for it? It would be right in line with what you are saying.
MTV

AOL

#17 Feb 12, 2008
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
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That's what blacks have done for years. Pop them out one after another and collect public money to feed and house them.
I didn't know they had racists in California. I thought that was just a Southern thing.
MTV

AOL

#18 Feb 12, 2008
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
I want a new SUV.
An SUV in California? I thought everybody in California drove electric Priuses. I'm learning more and more stuff all the time.

“I pity the fool !!”

Since: Jan 08

Hampton, VA

#19 Feb 12, 2008
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
I guess there's no use trying to debate a bunch of socialists who think they are entitled to take other peoples money because they think they have a good reason.
I want a new SUV. Can I extort some of your money to help pay for it? It would be right in line with what you are saying.
Yeah, especially when you're a close minded bigot, that can't think up a logically argument with any coherent and rational thought to it.

Go ahead with your ranting and raving. As I said earlier, we're lucky we have, in your words, "defective" individuals to make up for your inability to help our society advance.
Ruth

AOL

#20 Feb 13, 2008
Benjamin Franklin wrote:
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Just because it's the law doesn't make it right. These partents have these defective kids and then expect everyone else to take care of them. Inappropriate? Hardly. They should be responsible for their own not dump them on society.
Thank you so much for calling my sons defective. Yes - they are autistic, but defective - no way! Do they need extra help to succeed - YES. Does the intervention techniques work - ABSOLUTELY. My older son is now mainstreamed into a "regular" classroon (for the first time), my younger son is not ready for that. The boys were both in specially contained classes that were much smaller (6 children max) with a full time teacher as well as a full time helper.

We pay taxes - and are not "burdens" on society. We do not collect extra monies because of our boys' challenges. Yes - they do get special education services in their schools - which I am so thankful for.

You may think of my children as burdens - but look down through history. Issac Newton, Thomas Edison, Michangelo, Albert Einstein are only a scant few who exibited symptoms of autism. Yet it was because someone took time with them to bring out their brilliances that we honor today.

Oh - and please stop calling my sons "defective."

“He's 3 1/2 lbs. of fury!!!”

Since: Sep 07

Hampton Roads, VA

#21 Feb 13, 2008
I have just read so many different reasons for the autism increase from vaccines to it being in DNA.
As far as calling an autistic child "defective". That is absolutely horrible. Whoever said that, I hope you never have a child who needs expensive care for any reason. I guarantee if you don't have the money you will be asking the government and other people for it. That is what people do when they have children and they need help. As far as using the word "defective"...how stupid and "defective" can you be? I believe autism is not a burden. Do you know how many incredible people have had autism or signs of it and have done some great things for the world. What have you done for society? Probably nothing!!!
CD Thomas

Norfolk, VA

#22 Feb 13, 2008
There are many maladies in today's children that cannot be fully explained. To begin with, look at the toxic soup of chemicals we immerse ourselves in daily. Soaps, perfumes, lotions, and even the water from the tap are all drenched in chemicals, some of which by themselves are toxic or hazardous by definition. Now we start to combine all of those poisons, and over time - needlessly screwed up kids. Many parents were exposed to the same items in their youth, thus setting the stage for deeper genetic foul-ups before the birth of their children. We live in a chemical environment where exposure to potentially harmful substances occurs many times a day. Do not look for pills or potions to solve the problems with the kids, look to product manufactures to make better products that both deliver the result, but protect the users as well.

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