Parents need to know homeopathy does not protect against measles, says MP

Apr 15, 2013 Full story: The Guardian 21

The GP and Conservative MP Sarah Wollaston is calling on homeopathy 's governing bodies to make it clear to parents that their alternative remedies will not protect children from measles outbreaks.

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Since: Jan 07

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#1 Apr 16, 2013
The measles is viral, and clearly everyone affected by high measles rates have running water and toilets.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#3 Apr 16, 2013
I had the mumps, it was nothing. Stayed home from school. My life wasn't threatened. Fear mongering at its best.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#4 Apr 20, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
I had the mumps, it was nothing. Stayed home from school. My life wasn't threatened. Fear mongering at its best.
Jackass, you aren't the one we're worried about. MOST people who contract the mumps will likely be fine.

However, there are people for whom the mumps would be deadly.
- very young children
- the elderly
- the infirmed
- cancer patients with compromised immunity

Just some examples off the top of my head.

When everyone is vaccinated, the mumps goes away as a problem. You don't get it, therefore you don't spread it.

It's called herd immunity.

You are a member of this society and that comes with certain obligations. There are soldiers out fighting for your rights. There are firemen who will pull you out of a burning house. There are people who spend their days prepping food for you to eat.

The ABSOLUTE LEAST you can do is vaccinate YOURSELF against a disease that you don't want to get in order to help protect someone else who can't afford to get it.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#6 Apr 21, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> A stool sample from fuggin nuggin.
What a well thought out and careful written response...

Oh, right. Like the rest of the paranoid, you don't have any facts to back up your position

Since: Jan 07

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#8 Apr 21, 2013
Like he says, he has no evidence of anything or facts. All he has is Wakefield so he name-calls instead.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#9 Apr 21, 2013
friend wrote:
Like he says, he has no evidence of anything or facts. All he has is Wakefield so he name-calls instead.
Yup, and given that Wakefield has been shown to be a complete fraud, he doesn't even have that.
Mark

Canberra, Australia

#12 Apr 22, 2013
Is Winnipeg, Canada Homer Simpson with dyslexia?:P
Mark

Canberra, Australia

#14 Apr 25, 2013
I finally understand, Winnipeg Canada is giving us homeopathic answers - sentences containing no intelligence or information due to serial dilution with stupidity.
cnadycane

Manchester, UK

#15 Apr 27, 2013
When the doctors repeatedly tried all their various antibiotics ( three different lots ) to save my dad and resorted to their only last hope, my dad tried homeopathy for his ecoli infection and recoved completly, he has never had a recurrence since, it is now 5 years!!! My husband who is a medic made fun of his choice, saying that he has never heard that ever, and it eventually did help my dad! I guess the proof is in the eating of the pudding. Stupidity or reality?! One can never hide the truth when it it really helps. Thankyou homeopathy!!!
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#16 Apr 27, 2013
Mark wrote:
I finally understand, Winnipeg Canada is giving us homeopathic answers - sentences containing no intelligence or information due to serial dilution with stupidity.
Translation: DUH from aussie Mark.
Mark

Canberra, Australia

#17 Apr 27, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text>Translation: DUH from aussie Mark.
Many thanks for confirming my hypothesis.
Mark

Canberra, Australia

#18 Apr 27, 2013
cnadycane wrote:
When the doctors repeatedly tried all their various antibiotics ( three different lots ) to save my dad and resorted to their only last hope, my dad tried homeopathy for his ecoli infection and recoved completly, he has never had a recurrence since, it is now 5 years!!! My husband who is a medic made fun of his choice, saying that he has never heard that ever, and it eventually did help my dad! I guess the proof is in the eating of the pudding. Stupidity or reality?! One can never hide the truth when it it really helps. Thankyou homeopathy!!!
Can you prove that it wasn't the antibiotics that cured him? Antibiotics take time to work and just because he got better soon after taking homeopathy does not mean that it wasn't the antibiotics that cured him. Correlation does not imply causation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does...
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#19 Apr 27, 2013
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you prove that it wasn't the antibiotics that cured him? Antibiotics take time to work and just because he got better soon after taking homeopathy does not mean that it wasn't the antibiotics that cured him. Correlation does not imply causation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does...
aussie mark friend of Pharma
Mark

Canberra, Australia

#20 Apr 27, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text>aussie mark friend of Pharma
Winnipeg Canada friend of con-artists and BS merchants.
ric99

Spilsby, UK

#21 Apr 28, 2013
Homeopathy is a con. It is medicinally no more useful than pure water, because that is exactly what it is. The theory is that the more you dilute the active ingredient, the more effective it becomes. Therefore the active ingredient is diluted so many times that statistically there are no atoms of the active ingredient left, and all that is left is water.
Studies have shown that homeopathic medicines are no more effective than placebos.
ChristyRedd

Little Silver, NJ

#22 Apr 28, 2013
The public should be aware of the fact that there are 200 studies published in 102 respected, national and international, peer-reviewed journals showing that homeopathy produces significant to substantial health benefits in a wide array of conditions. Some of those journals, are British Medical Journal, Lancet, Pediatrics, Rheumatology, Journal of Head Trauma Rehabilitation, Cancer, Archives of Emergency Medicine and International Journal of Oncology.

Some of them can be seen at:

www.nationalcenterforhomeopathy.org/articles-...
www.extraordinarymedicine.org
http://avilian.co.uk/

The governments of 19 countries recognize homeopathy as a medical specialty or system of medicine and/or include it in their national health care programs.

Switzerland undertook the most comprehensive analysis of homeopathy literature ever conducted by any government. The report concluded that homeopathy is as effective as conventional medicine and is also far safer. It recommended that homeopathy be included in the Swiss health care program which it is.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16883077

A separate cost-effectiveness study shows that homeopathy is 15.4% less expensive than con med.

www.huffington.po st/com/dana-ullman/swiss-homeo pathy_b_1340506.html

Homeopathy is proven to be extremely effective in treating people during epidemics of diseases like cholera, typhoid fever and flu. It is equally effective in treating childhood diseases like measles.

ChristyRedd

Little Silver, NJ

#23 Apr 28, 2013

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#24 Apr 28, 2013
ChristyRedd wrote:
The public should be aware of the fact that there are 200 studies published in 102 respected, national and international, peer-reviewed journals showing that homeopathy produces significant to substantial health benefits in a wide array of conditions.
They should also be aware that every one of these studies has SIGNIFICANT flaws in the way they were conducted.

And, that if you chart ALL the studies ever done about homeopathy on a graph evaluating the quality of the controls/process and the results, you'll see that the better designed the study, the worse the results for homeopathy.

Any pro-homeopath can do an "experiment" in which they fail to be double blinded and fail to accurately evaluate the results. A study like that is MEANINGLESS/

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#25 Apr 28, 2013
ChristyRedd wrote:
Homeopathy is proven to be extremely effective in treating people during epidemics of diseases like cholera, typhoid fever and flu. It is equally effective in treating childhood diseases like measles.
I just want you to know that if a parent were to read this and then act on this advice, they could sue you or bring you up on criminal charges when their child died as a result.

If you HONESTLY believe this, please provide you full name and mailing address in a post that states clearly that you are willing to accept the consequences to advocating this sort of medical treatment for life threatening disease.

If you don't honestly believe this, then give us an excuse about why you won't give out your information.

This should be a laugh.

Since: Jan 07

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#26 Apr 28, 2013
What studies? All I seen was one ncbi which wasn't really a study at all but "Databases accessible by Internet were systematically searched, complemented by manual search and contacts with experts, and evaluated according to internal and external validity criteria."

And the public is well aware homeopathy results in many deaths per year, of which include children and their parents are sitting in jail.

The article is pertaining to claims of homeopathy 'preventing' measles, not 'treating' measles.

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