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Isabelle

Bedford, OH

#25 Jan 23, 2013
The idea that SSRIs cause violent behavior is beyond ridiculous. Anybody that thinks that need to educate themselves on the way that SSRIs work in the brain. The neurotransmitters they regulate have NOTHING to do with violent behavior. Millions of people are on SSRIs and are completely normal individuals, and they have made helplessly depressed people capable of joy and normal lives again. Now some of the ADHD drugs I'm less familiar with, and I have heard that those can have strange side effects. To Nikki Alexander- you are confusing correlation with causation. Just because many of the school shooters were on SSRIs does NOT mean that the SSRIs caused the behavior. These kids would have done it prozac or no prozac. Start giving a normal person with no violent tendencies prozac, and you will not see ANY violent behavior. If you use logic- you will see that the shooters were unhappy, disturbed individuals. Well, unhappy disturbed individuals are often going to be prescribed prozac/etc because of their unhappiness- so it may APPEAR as though there is a causal link but it is purely because of the prior mental conditions of the shooters, which existed prior to them taking the drug so the drug is NOT the cause. The problem is not the drugs themselves- it is that people prescribe the drugs to extremely disturbed individuals and think it will fix everything and it obviously doesn't. Adam Lanza, and the other shooters, should have been seeing a psychiatrist/therapist on a regular basis. There is far too much of a tendency in our country to think that pills will be a quick fix, and I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies' power contribute to this reliance on pills rather than the proper combination of mental health treatments.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#26 Jan 23, 2013
friend wrote:
The only troll here is the one from FL who spams every forum with their anti drugs rants.
People commit crimes. People commit murder. The one to blame and only blame is that one single person who commited the act. If someone has murder on their mind, there's multiple ways to commit it, it could had been a bomb. People who assume a murderer was on psych drugs is doing no one any good nd stereo typing all those who really need that medication. For all we know they were on street drugs, which oftn can cause symptoms od ASD's.
A TROLL calling someone a troll. Read this instead of this bozo's rant.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/01/4214...
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#27 Jan 23, 2013
Isabelle wrote:
The idea that SSRIs cause violent behavior is beyond ridiculous. Anybody that thinks that need to educate themselves on the way that SSRIs work in the brain. The neurotransmitters they regulate have NOTHING to do with violent behavior. Millions of people are on SSRIs and are completely normal individuals, and they have made helplessly depressed people capable of joy and normal lives again. Now some of the ADHD drugs I'm less familiar with, and I have heard that those can have strange side effects. To Nikki Alexander- you are confusing correlation with causation. Just because many of the school shooters were on SSRIs does NOT mean that the SSRIs caused the behavior. These kids would have done it prozac or no prozac. Start giving a normal person with no violent tendencies prozac, and you will not see ANY violent behavior. If you use logic- you will see that the shooters were unhappy, disturbed individuals. Well, unhappy disturbed individuals are often going to be prescribed prozac/etc because of their unhappiness- so it may APPEAR as though there is a causal link but it is purely because of the prior mental conditions of the shooters, which existed prior to them taking the drug so the drug is NOT the cause. The problem is not the drugs themselves- it is that people prescribe the drugs to extremely disturbed individuals and think it will fix everything and it obviously doesn't. Adam Lanza, and the other shooters, should have been seeing a psychiatrist/therapist on a regular basis. There is far too much of a tendency in our country to think that pills will be a quick fix, and I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies' power contribute to this reliance on pills rather than the proper combination of mental health treatments.
Translation: I'm a Pharma employee!
Bill

West Linn, OR

#28 Jan 24, 2013
Doc Dan wrote:
I am a child, adolescent, and adult psychiatrist certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology. I am stunned by the amount of comments that suggest that "the psych meds must be responsible". There is no evidence of any psychotropic medications causing violence, and especially at this level.
Obviously, this man (20 years old) needed help and without knowing anything about his psychiatric history the only question that i have is the same question I had when the movie theater shooting occurred. How can an individual obtain a semi-automatic weapon so easily.
In terms of medications, it sure sounds like this individual needed them (as well as therapy). However, these things will still happen.
Taking a stand against the treatment of mental illness with or without medication is pathetic.
Have a look:
http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-amer...
Bill

West Linn, OR

#29 Jan 24, 2013
Here's a study for you to look at:
http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-amer...
Isabelle wrote:
The idea that SSRIs cause violent behavior is beyond ridiculous. Anybody that thinks that need to educate themselves on the way that SSRIs work in the brain. The neurotransmitters they regulate have NOTHING to do with violent behavior. Millions of people are on SSRIs and are completely normal individuals, and they have made helplessly depressed people capable of joy and normal lives again. Now some of the ADHD drugs I'm less familiar with, and I have heard that those can have strange side effects. To Nikki Alexander- you are confusing correlation with causation. Just because many of the school shooters were on SSRIs does NOT mean that the SSRIs caused the behavior. These kids would have done it prozac or no prozac. Start giving a normal person with no violent tendencies prozac, and you will not see ANY violent behavior. If you use logic- you will see that the shooters were unhappy, disturbed individuals. Well, unhappy disturbed individuals are often going to be prescribed prozac/etc because of their unhappiness- so it may APPEAR as though there is a causal link but it is purely because of the prior mental conditions of the shooters, which existed prior to them taking the drug so the drug is NOT the cause. The problem is not the drugs themselves- it is that people prescribe the drugs to extremely disturbed individuals and think it will fix everything and it obviously doesn't. Adam Lanza, and the other shooters, should have been seeing a psychiatrist/therapist on a regular basis. There is far too much of a tendency in our country to think that pills will be a quick fix, and I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies' power contribute to this reliance on pills rather than the proper combination of mental health treatments.

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#30 Jan 24, 2013
Nice try. It wasn't a study, it was a report based upon reviewing AERS. However, when one reviews this data, there is no certainty that the reported event (adverse event or medication error) was actually due to the product. FDA does not require that a causal relationship between a product and event be proven, and reports do not always contain enough detail to properly evaluate an event.
So this report means very little.
Vaccines Cause ADHD

Winnipeg, Canada

#31 Jan 24, 2013
friend wrote:
Nice try. It wasn't a study, it was a report based upon reviewing AERS. However, when one reviews this data, there is no certainty that the reported event (adverse event or medication error) was actually due to the product. FDA does not require that a causal relationship between a product and event be proven, and reports do not always contain enough detail to properly evaluate an event.
So this report means very little.
WARNING: FDA APPROVED. Its time for the FDA to stop protecting Pharma and make the connections and then honestly report it. This way they can report no connection and all evidence has been suppressed. HINT: Thats the reason its done this way, to protect Pharma.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#32 Jan 24, 2013
So you disagree with the AERS reporting report? Just like VAERS, anyone can report anything. I could make a report ad it wouldn't prove anything. It's not to protect anyone. It's generally a useless reporting system other than how anti vaxxers misuse the info it contains.
Starts with Vaccines

Winnipeg, Canada

#33 Jan 24, 2013
friend wrote:
So you disagree with the AERS reporting report? Just like VAERS, anyone can report anything. I could make a report ad it wouldn't prove anything. It's not to protect anyone. It's generally a useless reporting system other than how anti vaxxers misuse the info it contains.
Yes, useless, meant to be useless and it provides no credible evidence. Mission accomplished. Its just part of the incredibly obvious and intentional misinformation strategy that government uses to protect pharma. Thanks for your insight and support.
PHARMAGEDDON

Winnipeg, Canada

#34 Mar 31, 2013
friend wrote:
The only troll here is the one from FL who spams every forum with their anti drugs rants.
People commit crimes. People commit murder. The one to blame and only blame is that one single person who commited the act. If someone has murder on their mind, there's multiple ways to commit it, it could had been a bomb. People who assume a murderer was on psych drugs is doing no one any good nd stereo typing all those who really need that medication. For all we know they were on street drugs, which oftn can cause symptoms od ASD's.
What a dumbo

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