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let me know if you need! leora919@yahoo.com
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My son was just diagnosed yesterday with asthma he just turned 6 a week ago. We dont have any medical insurance and do not qualify for medical. The doctor gave me 1 sample of the advair and then told me how much it costs.yikes who in the world could afford to buy this stuff. I just saw your website and thought you might have info for me when you have the time. I dont really know anything about asthma , knowone in my family ever had it. well thanks for listening and if you have any helpful info for me it would be greatly appriciated. Thanks Tracey
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Just wanted to ask if this ad for a free Advair Inhaler is really true? This is for my 61y/o husband. WE pay almost $350.00 a month in meds, due to his diabetes, asthma, lost of right leg and severe injury to his left leg who hit him with no insurance. This wpuld really help us at this time
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I'm confused..What ad is everyone talking about?
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My husband takes Advair 250/50 and we have medical insurance but we still have to pay an outrageous amount.
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Tracey: So sorry to hear about your son being diagnosed with asthma. I was first diagnosed with bronchial asthma when I was 15 years old. I am the only person in my family to ever have this condition. After researching asthma for a college paper I found out why I was the only one. I was born two months premature, and this can be the reason. Knowing why does not help with the cost of Advair though. I lost my health insurance and did not know what to do about my medicine. Someone turned me onto the L.A. County health care system. Instead of having to go to a county hospital, I found out that my local health clinic in Glendale, CA, was run by the county. I was able to call in the morning and get an appointment to be seen that day. The doctor wrote me prescriptions for all of my medicines, more than six, and told me the pharmacy to go to where I could get all of my meds for free. He also wrote for three months at a time. The wait at the pharmacy can be long, up to four hours, but it's worth it if it saves you money. I hope that you can find a place like this one. Good luck. |
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1 Two points: 1) READ the Black Box warning onAdvair. Does he TRULY need it? Why? Are you aware of the risks? 2)Nothing is free! There are a lot of man-hours and dollars invested in developing drugs. Who do you think has to pay for it? You want a "free ride"? Pay and shut up! We all have our problems... |
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Perhaps you should invest some time in expanding the myopic view you are expressing here. While, it is true that pharmaceutical companies invest millions of dollars in developing new medicines, these are businesses and this particular industry is by far one of the more profitable ones. And yes, it is true that nothing is free, but you must realize that such 'charitable' acts provide these corporations with substantial tax deductions that more than offset any profit loss. The average first year med student should be fully cognizant of the less that righteous practices engaged in by pharma. companies the world over. Please stop berating ppl who are trying to find help and treatment, and if you choose to broadcast your opinions, in the future I would suggest you have them more fully researched. |
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1 Your points are illtaken. Research costs money. New medicines don't just grow on trees. And when new medicines present issues, they must be brought out. Your use of common sense is at best questionable. I can understand that not being a Medical Professional your knowledge base must be insignificant but please do not try and pretend "knowledge". As a practing MD, my years of experience and training far trump your insignificant and stupid remarks. |
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Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Comments: 137 |
WARRICK CFC ALBUTEROL INHALERS NOW AVAILABLE!
1. GO TO OUR PETITION AND FIND THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR GILLESPIES PHARMACY- and remind yourself what it feels like to breathe freely again. 2. While you are there, SIGN THE PETITION TO SAVE CFC ALBUTEROL INHALERS, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, FILE A COMPLAINT BY TELEPHONE WITH THE FDA AGAINST THE NEW HFA ALBUTEROL INHALERS (phone number in HUGE RED NUMBERS- IF you have a medical complaint). 3. TELL THEM YOU WANT YOUR NAME PLACED ON THE LIST (YES, they ARE collecting names) OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SAVE CFC ALBUTEROL INHALERS! ACT NOW! DO NOT WAIT! GO HERE NOW: http://tinyurl.com/3bul5u You never know. We may get lucky, despite everything you've heard. BUT EVERYONE MUST FILE COMPLAINTS (IF they have MEDICAL complaints) WITH THE FDA NOW! YOU SNOOZE, YOU LOSE. FOREVER. Art P.S. DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIG LIE THAT HFA ALBUTEROL INHALERS HAVE "THE SAME MEDICINE" AS CFC ALBUTEROL INHALERS. THAT'S TOTAL BULLSHIT!! 1. HFA propellent is NOT as safe as CFC propellent! Schering-Plough says: "Rapid heart beat, vomiting, chest pain, and palpitation occurred more frequently with PROVENTIL® HFA (than with Proventil CFC). 2. HFA inhalers use ALBUTEROL SULFATE unlike CFC inhalers which use ALBUTEROL BASE. MANY PEOPLE are ALLERGIC TO SULFATES. This MAY or MAY NOT be a factor. 3. TWO OF THE THREE HFA INHALERS (IVAX/TEVA PROAIR and PROVENTIL) USE ETHANOL AS AN EXCIPIENT (to disperse the medication). MANY PEOPLE MAY SUFFER BREATHING AND OTHER PROBLEMS FROM ETHANOL, WHICH IS IN LARGE ENOUGH DOSES TO AFFECT BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVELS! CFC INHALERS USE OLEIC ACID AS AN EXCIPIENT WHICH IS HARMLESS. 4. BY FAR, WE RECEIVE MORE SERIOUS COMPLAINTS AGAINST IVAX/TEVA PROAIR HFA ALBUTEROL THAN ANY OTHER HFA.(We suspect that's because IVAX/TEVA PROAIR uses ONLY ETHANOL AS AN EXCIPIENT- unlike PROVENTIL, which uses a combination of ETHANOL and OLEIC ACID as an excipient- and is #2 in complaints. VENTOLIN USES NO ETHANOL- and has the FEWEST complaints- but we HAVE had some BAD VENTOLIN COMPLAINTS also. 5. Are these MEDICAL PROBLEMS due to the HFA propellent, the SULFATES, the ETHANOL (except in VENTOLIN) a COMBINATION of these things, or SOMETHING ELSE? We don't know, but we DO know that SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG WITH THESE HFA ALBUTEROL INHALERS as far as MANY PATIENTS are concerned. JUST READ THE PETITION COMMENTS! 6. DEMAND THAT YOUR MD WRITE A "NO IVAX/TEVA PROAIR" PRESCRIPTION FOR YOU. DO NOT USE IVAX/TEVA PROAIR ALBUTEROL AT ALL. PERIOD. END OF STORY. IN OUR OPINION, IT IS POISON GAS FOR ASTHMATICS. IF YOUR DOCTOR REFUSES YOUR REQUEST FOR A "NO IVAX/TEVA PROAIR" PRESCRIPTION- HE OR SHE IS AN IDIOT, AND YOU MUST NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT! JUST GET A NEW DOCTOR! Now get over to our petition and DO YOUR PART NOW, and get yourself some nice refreshing CFC ALBUTEROL INHALERS FROM GILLESPIES while you're there.(We do not make ANY MONEY from GILLESPIES SALES of these CFC ALBUTEROL INHALERS, by the way. It's a free referral service we offer to our petitioners.) DO IT NOW: http://tinyurl.com/3bul5u |
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1 There is absolutely NO PROVEN DATA to support the allegations made. Scientific data does not support most of what the cretin states! |
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"Dr" L I stand by my original statements. Your subsequent remarks only serve to prove that memorization and training is not substitute for knowledge or intelligence. Such harsh language serves no one but yourself. Your acerbic attitude does not help the ppl here, so there really is no point in you spending any more time on this forum. “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.”-Bertrand Russell |
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Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Comments: 137 |
Well said, Jason.
Art WARNING:‘DR. L’(aka DR. VINNIGUMPA aka CHIEF PULMONARY MD aka Dr. MANISHANKAR BUTTO- ALL FROM WALTHAM, MA) IS A PSYCHIATRIC BASKET CASE AND A VERY POORLY INFORMED MD. IGNORE HIM. I TOLD YOU THAT HE WOULD CONTINUE TO CHANGE PSEUDONYMS EARLIER- AND HE HAS- AND HE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.) For all intents and purposes, HFA ALBUTEROL INHALERS ARE NEW DRUGS FIRST INTRODUCED EN MASSE IN 2007- AND THE PATIENT RESPONSE HAS BEEN MASSIVELY, VIOLENTLY NEGATIVE (read petition comments here: http://tinyurl.com/3bul5u ). Yes, it’s true that Proventil HFA was introduced in the US in 1996, but it’s also true that there have been problems reported with it, very similar to what patients are complaining about today: Bamber MG. Difficulties with CFC-free salbutamol inhaler, The Lancet 1996; 348 (21/28) 1737 Further, common sense suggests that any patients who tried Proventil HFA since 1996 or Ventolin HFA since 2004 and had any complaints about either of them, simply went back to CFC ALBUTEROL- WHICH HAS MASSIVELY DOMINATED THE ALBUTEROL MARKET UNTIL 2007- and THIS is why HFA inhalers- particulary MARKET LEADER AND COMPLAINT LEADER IVAX/TEVA PROAIR (aka ‘MAXIMUM ETHANOL, POISON GAS FOR ASTHMATICS’)- MUST BE LOOKED AT AS THOUGH THEY ARE NEW DRUGS, because in terms of SUBSTANTIAL POSTMARKETING DATA, THEY DAMN WELL ARE! And for the record, I DON’T TRUST ‘patient acceptance’ of HFA albuterol inhalers in other countries. Since I don’t believe the GARBAGE DATA (ie,‘CFC INHALERS HARM THE OZONE LAYER’- WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT!) that constantly spews from our own FDA and EPA, why should I trust any OTHER country’s ‘FDA’ or ‘EPA’ when they report on ‘patient acceptance’ of HFA albuterol inhalers? The MOST IMPORTANT PROOF OF SAFETY of ANY new drug (and as I’ve explained above, HFA albuterol inhalers MUST be considered to be new drugs as of 2007) is the POSTMARKETING DATA- the complaints generated when the drug gets into the hands of patients on a large scale (read this article and show it to any MD WHO SAYS THERE’S ‘NO PROOF’ THAT HFA ALBUTEROL ISN’T AS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AS CFC ALBUTEROL: http://tinyurl.com/2zsmyb ). ANY THOUGHTFUL, SEASONED CLINICIAN SHOULD BE ALARMED BY THIS IMMEDIATE, WIDESPREAD PATIENT REACTION. It usually takes YEARS to uncover a new drugs major adverse reactions- in the case of HFA albuterol inhalers- it only took WEEKS! IF YOUR MD DOES NOT TAKE YOUR HFA ALBUTEROL COMPLAINT SERIOUSLY, IF YOUR MD REFUSES TO GIVE YOU A “NO IVAX/TEVA PROAIR” PRESCRIPTION (try Ventolin, try Proventil, try Xopenex- get some WARRICK CFC [see details for Gillespies Pharmacy at our petition]- BUT NEVER USE IVAX/PROAIR!)- THEN GET A NEW DOCTOR! Good luck to all albuterol users, and if you have not yet done so: 1) sign the petition 2) file a telephone complaint with the FDA (if you’ve had a problem with a HFA inhaler- FDA # IS AT THR PETITION IN BIG, RED NUMBERS) 3) Ask the FDA to put you on the list of people who want to SAVE CFC INHALERS (YES- they ARE collecting names of people who want to save CFC albuterol) 4) Call Gillespies for some WARRICK CFC ALBUTEROL if you want it 5) AND IGNORE THIS SCHMUCK MD ‘DR.L’ aka…aka…aka…aka… FROM WALTHAM, MA!) DO IT NOW! ALL PHONE NUMBERS (FDA COMPLAINTS, GILLESPIES DRUGS FOR WARRICK CFC) ARE AT THE PETITION: http://tinyurl.com/3bul5u YOU SNOOZE, YOU LOSE, FOREVER! Art |
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Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Comments: 137 |
WARNING:‘DR. L’(aka DR. VINNIGUMPA aka CHIEF PULMONARY MD aka Dr. MANISHANKAR BUTTO- ALL FROM WALTHAM, MA) IS A PSYCHIATRIC BASKET CASE AND A VERY POORLY INFORMED MD. IGNORE HIM. I TOLD YOU THAT HE WOULD CONTINUE TO CHANGE PSEUDONYMS EARLIER- AND HE HAS- AND HE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.)
For all intents and purposes, HFA ALBUTEROL INHALERS ARE NEW DRUGS FIRST INTRODUCED EN MASSE IN 2007- AND THE PATIENT RESPONSE HAS BEEN MASSIVELY, VIOLENTLY NEGATIVE (read petition comments here: http://tinyurl.com/3bul5u ). Yes, it’s true that Proventil HFA was introduced in the US in 1996, but it’s also true that there have been problems reported with it, very similar to what patients are complaining about today: Bamber MG. Difficulties with CFC-free salbutamol inhaler, The Lancet 1996; 348 (21/28) 1737 Further, common sense suggests that any patients who tried Proventil HFA since 1996 or Ventolin HFA since 2004 and had any complaints about either of them, simply went back to CFC ALBUTEROL- WHICH HAS MASSIVELY DOMINATED THE ALBUTEROL MARKET UNTIL 2007- and THIS is why HFA inhalers- particulary MARKET LEADER AND COMPLAINT LEADER IVAX/TEVA PROAIR (aka ‘MAXIMUM ETHANOL, POISON GAS FOR ASTHMATICS’)- MUST BE LOOKED AT AS THOUGH THEY ARE NEW DRUGS, because in terms of SUBSTANTIAL POSTMARKETING DATA, THEY DAMN WELL ARE! And for the record, I DON’T TRUST ‘patient acceptance’ of HFA albuterol inhalers in other countries. Since I don’t believe the GARBAGE DATA (ie,‘CFC INHALERS HARM THE OZONE LAYER’- WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT!) that constantly spews from our own FDA and EPA, why should I trust any OTHER country’s ‘FDA’ or ‘EPA’ when they report on ‘patient acceptance’ of HFA albuterol inhalers? The MOST IMPORTANT PROOF OF SAFETY of ANY new drug (and as I’ve explained above, HFA albuterol inhalers MUST be considered to be new drugs as of 2007) is the POSTMARKETING DATA- the complaints generated when the drug gets into the hands of patients on a large scale (read this article and show it to any MD WHO SAYS THERE’S ‘NO PROOF’ THAT HFA ALBUTEROL ISN’T AS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AS CFC ALBUTEROL: http://tinyurl.com/2zsmyb ). ANY THOUGHTFUL, SEASONED CLINICIAN SHOULD BE ALARMED BY THIS IMMEDIATE, WIDESPREAD PATIENT REACTION. It usually takes YEARS to uncover a new drugs major adverse reactions- in the case of HFA albuterol inhalers- it only took WEEKS! IF YOUR MD DOES NOT TAKE YOUR HFA ALBUTEROL COMPLAINT SERIOUSLY, IF YOUR MD REFUSES TO GIVE YOU A “NO IVAX/TEVA PROAIR” PRESCRIPTION (try Ventolin, try Proventil, try Xopenex- get some WARRICK CFC [see details for Gillespies Pharmacy at our petition]- BUT NEVER USE IVAX/PROAIR!)- THEN GET A NEW DOCTOR! Good luck to all albuterol users, and if you have not yet done so: 1) sign the petition 2) file a telephone complaint with the FDA (if you’ve had a problem with a HFA inhaler- FDA # IS AT THR PETITION IN BIG, RED NUMBERS) 3) Ask the FDA to put you on the list of people who want to SAVE CFC INHALERS (YES- they ARE collecting names of people who want to save CFC albuterol) 4) Call Gillespies for some WARRICK CFC ALBUTEROL if you want it 5) AND IGNORE THIS SCHMUCK MD ‘DR.L’ aka…aka…aka…aka… FROM WALTHAM, MA!) DO IT NOW! ALL PHONE NUMBERS (FDA COMPLAINTS, GILLESPIES DRUGS FOR WARRICK CFC) ARE AT THE PETITION: http://tinyurl.com/3bul5u YOU SNOOZE, YOU LOSE, FOREVER! Art |
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Clinical Results
A 12-week, randomized, double-blind trial compared Ventolin HFA to CFC 11/12-propelled albuterol and an HFA-134a placebo inhaler. The trial included adolescent and adult subjects (12-76 years of age) with mild to moderate asthma. Serial forced expiratory volume in one second (FEV1) measurements showed that two inhalations of Ventolin HFA produced a significantly greater improvement in FEV1 over the pretreatment value than placebo. A second 12-week, randomized, double-blind trial evaluated the effectiveness of switching subjects from CFC 11/12-propelled albuterol to Ventolin HFA. In an initial run-in phase, all subjects received CFC 11/12-propelled albuterol. During the double-blind treatment phase, Ventolin HFA was compared to CFC 11/12-propelled albuterol and an HFA-134a placebo inhaler in adolescent and adult subjects with mild to moderate asthma. Serial FEV1 measurements showed that two inhalations of Ventolin HFA produced significantly greater improvement in pulmonary function than placebo. The switching from CFC 11/12-propelled albuterol inhaler to Ventolin HFA did not reveal any clinically significant changes in the efficacy profile. Additionally, a two-week, randomized, double-blind trial was conducted to compare Ventolin HFA, CFC 11/12-propelled albuterol, and an HFA-134a placebo inhaler in 135 pediatric subjects (4-11 years old) with mild to moderate asthma. Serial pulmonary function measurements showed that two inhalations of Ventolin HFA produced significantly greater improvement in pulmonary function than placebo, and that there were no significant differences between the groups treated with Ventolin HFA and CFC 11/12-propelled albuterol. A controlled trial in adult subjects with asthma showed that two inhalations of Ventolin HFA taken approximately 30 minutes prior to exercise significantly prevented exercise-induced bronchospasm compared to an HFA-134a placebo inhaler. In addition, Ventolin HFA was shown to be clinically comparable to a CFC 11/12-propelled albuterol inhaler for this indication.(from Ventolin HFA Product Information) |
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Tracey DeWeese and Mary K...
Please contact me lno4qkwxoyeycm3 AT jetable DOT com Dr L... Please don't take this suggestion the wrong way but you really ought to see a psychiatrist...and be honest with him. |
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1 I work in same complex as psychiatrists, surgeons, cardiologists, etc. I'll consider your suggestion and discuss with him the idiocy in this site. People babbling about non-effective medications because of a propellant change, having virtually no scientific data as a basis, and primarily driven by higher price of new inhalers (though not willing to admit it as the "driver" and instead nagging everyone to death about effectiveness or lack thereof..). I'll tell you what another MD told someone: Don't buy the new inhalers with new propellant. Save money! Instead, get a portable nebulizer, some generic albuterol for it (which is extremely inexpensive and very cost effective), carry the portable nebulizer like a camera bag, and use IT instead of inhalers. See...now you are using nebulized albuterol and AIR!! The stupidity here amazes me! |
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Your remarks make me ashamed to be a medical professional myself Dr.L.. It's ignorant MDs like you that give us all a bad name. I have years of experience as an MD and in the world of pharma and I can tell you first hand that your remarks fail to recognize the larger perspective.
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I understand that much research in involved with new meds. However....money should never be an issue when it comes to someones health or life!!!! Let's not lose all morality. We are here to help our brothers and sisters on this planet. Please don't loose sight of that. If we only had to pay cost plus 20%, they would still make a huge profit to further research. |
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Thank you Dr. |
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