Urine tests for alcohol on probation
sos5565

Dexter, MI

#45 Aug 6, 2012
I am on probation and have to do etg testing. I failed a test but have not drank. Does anyone have any ideas?

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justin

Sheffield, AL

#46 Aug 8, 2012
alcohol is legel how can they stop u from doin something legal does no one else see anything wrong with this

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Sloane

Lake Luzerne, NY

#47 Aug 9, 2012
Touko wrote:
I thought I would start a forum for those having to take urine tests for alcohol on probation. First off-drinking and driving is wrong...bla bla-for those looking to criticize go else where. We know that. Those who have had problems also realize that the system is set to take as much money as possible. In other words-don't get a DUI!
OK-but for those who are on the other side-some insight.
ETG tests can test for up to 80 hours. Usually you can pass in alot less time with variable remedies. I would like to hear from people who have taken this test.
My test is usually a 8 drug panel. I know for a fact it can be passed if you quit drinking for a minimum of 24 hours prior. For me-I am OK to drink on Fri-sometimes Sat since my test is Mon eve at the earliest. I have proven this. I have also proven that I can fail within that 24 hour period if I drink heavily (it was an surprise test-don't get me started).
So please-no do gooders with the BS "what are you" comments. I read them on forums all over the place.
This is for people who maybe want to have some wine at christmas, a beer at a bbq or something "normal" and still be able to finish their probation requirements.
Nothing wrong with that.
Please post any helpful information!
Thanks!
I am in a drug treatment program in NYS. I have to call in every morning for testing. I NEVER know when I am getting testing...could be everyday. I have done alot of research on these drug screening tests. The ones that you urinate in the cup and they either dip a stick or read the results on the side are all for drugs, not alcohol. I have to take one of these and a breathalyzer too. The breathalyzer is the one to watch out for. I have had several drinks the night before, but usually quit pretty early (before 8pm) and get tested the next day at 8:30 am....I have not tested positive yet. I think the only way they can assume you have been drinking is if your urine is highly diluted, and they can check creatine levels on the cup. The test to really worry about is the ETG...I have also had one of those, but I knew I was going to have one, so I went 4 days without a drink and tested negative. Unless they are sending your urine away to be tested, I would stop drinking early and don't drink heavy liquor the night before. It has worked for me so far, but I am of course always afraid of the outcomes. Hope this helps....and please, anyone who does know more about this...please let me know...I have yet to run across an answer of how to successfully beat an ETG!!! Thanks
notworthit

Murfreesboro, TN

#48 Aug 10, 2012
I took a test last week (EtG) and tested positive for alcohol and I would say I had at least 48 hours clean...then I was told it tests up to 80 hours. So I have another test Monday and drank yesterday.....won't drink again but HATE the fear that it may be positive again. Is 80 hours the MAX or can it stay in longer? As it is I will have right at 80 hours before my next test.

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Diabolic

Aurora, CO

#49 Aug 16, 2012
The only thing that's helped me is to dilute your urine. I use about 2500mg of creatine 3-4 times a day. Take a multi vitamin a couple times, b vitamins for color due to drinking about 3-4 gallons of water over 6-8 hrs. Its not illegal to drink water.
I know for a fact that creatine will not cleanse, but cover up most things in your system (all detox drinks consist of are creatine,vitamins,and gelatin) Have been in the nutrition business for years. I take an 8 panel test and have passed the day after if you have a beer or glass of wine, you should probably be ok. Any more then that and usually time 36-60 hrs of sobriety and water.Take in to account your metabolism as well. I have a high metabolism and low body fat.( now being on Probation and having a diluted sample, you can argue against that. Can't pee on command/ and or in front of people so I drank plenty of fluids to ensure this...) also milk thistle and dandelion root tea or capsules both detox the liver, add a redline and some L-Arginine for increased blood flow to speed your metabolism up. And there you go. Best thing to do is quit. Not worth your kidneys hurting and stress being caused by our own stupidity. Good luck

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booley

United States

#50 Aug 18, 2012
I just started fed supervised release with this testing crap. Not a big drinker but I like a margarita now and then when we go to El Maguey for dinner. Does anybody else see we are in Nazi Germany? I'm pissed...like it matters

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Sloane

Indian Lake, NY

#51 Aug 19, 2012
i hate police wrote:
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Hey how about this either answer my question or dont reply to my post with some stupid bullshit that i dont want to hear.Fuck you and have a nice day.
I absolutely love your reply to this judgemental asswipe....I for one, would like a straight answer from someone about something that is proven to beat an ETG test. Does sticking your finger up your ass and sticking it in your pee stream really work? Drinking creatine? Pomegranite? Taking aspirin? What really works? I've yet to see something I can trust, other than not drinking of course. Please respond only if you have something worth hearing. Thanks
JTINCO

Aurora, CO

#52 Aug 28, 2012
Sloane wrote:
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I absolutely love your reply to this judgemental asswipe....I for one, would like a straight answer from someone about something that is proven to beat an ETG test. Does sticking your finger up your ass and sticking it in your pee stream really work? Drinking creatine? Pomegranite? Taking aspirin? What really works? I've yet to see something I can trust, other than not drinking of course. Please respond only if you have something worth hearing. Thanks
Hey I drank a glass of wine last night and I have a test today. i am doing this detox pill, I will let you know as soon as I get the results!
Mike

Northville, NY

#53 Aug 29, 2012
JTINCO wrote:
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Hey I drank a glass of wine last night and I have a test today. i am doing this detox pill, I will let you know as soon as I get the results!
Hey, is an ETG test you're taking or a 6 or 8 Panel test? The panel tests don't test for alcohol, just drugs. Please let me know how it turns out...I've heard that they can test for the presence of this detoxing "potions" as well as other things...hope it works for you!
Loren77

Hackensack, NJ

#54 Aug 29, 2012
I have some answers .... basically rather than try and write a giant post just go read this pdf (link is below) and the insight and "FACTS" are pretty compelling. The flaws in using these markers in urine testing for alcohol are many. The e-coli (finger up the butt)trick seeems to be ligit. ALSO the presence of yeast in the urine sample will be noted and will produce a positive result. The general rule of thumb is the positive for alcohol needs to be reversed to a negative - meaning if the test said you drank but the test detected yeast (UTI) then the test is useless.

Hope this helps all the curious minds ...

http://www.peacehealthlabs.org/publications/P... (Alcohol)%20Markers%20Availabl e%20%E2%80%93%20Ethyl%20Glucur onide%20and%20Ethyl%20Sulfate. pdf
Loren77

Hackensack, NJ

#55 Aug 29, 2012
Here are some highlights!

References
&#9632; Thierauf, Annette et al: Urine tested positive for ethyl glucuronide and ethyl sulfate after the consumption of “nonalcoholic”
beer, Forensic Science International, 202, 2010, 82-85.
&#9632; Hoiseth, Gudrun et al: Levels of Ethyl Glucuronide and Ethyl Sulfate in Oral Fluid, Blood, and Urine After Use of Mouthwash
and Ingestion of Nonalcoholic Wine, J of Analytical Toxicology, Vol. 34, March 2010, 84-88.
&#9632; Reisfield, Gary M et al: Ethyl Glucuronide, Ethyl Sulfate, and Ethanol in Urine after Intensive Exposure to High Ethanol
Content Mouthwash, J of Analytical Toxicology, Vol. 35, June 2011, 264-268.
&#9632; Reisfield, Gary M et al: Ethyl Glucuronide, Ethyl Sulfate, and Ethanol in Urine after Sustained Exposure to an Ethanol-Based
Hand Sanitizer, J of Analytical Toxicology, Vol. 35, March 2011, 85-91.
&#9632; Thierauf, Annette et al: Urine tested positive for Ethyl Glucuronide and ethyl sulfate after the consumption of yeast and
sugar, Forensic Science International, 202,2010, e45-e47.
&#9632; Helander, Anders et al: Postcollection Synthesis of Ethyl Glucuronide by Bacteria in Urine May Cause False Identification of
Alcohol Consumption, Clinical Chemistry, 53, No. 10, 2007, 1855-1857.
&#9632; Helander, Anders and Dahl, Helen: Urinary Tract Infection: A Risk Factor for False-Negative Urinary Ethyl Glucuronide but
Not Ethyl Sulfate in the Detection of Recent Alcohol Consumption, Clinical Chemistry, 51, No. 9, 2005, 1728-1730.
&#9632; Helander, Anders and Beck, Olof, Clinical Chemistry, 50, No. 5, 2004, 936-937.
latinlady

Trenton, MI

#56 Sep 4, 2012
exercise...drink lots of water
Courious

United States

#57 Sep 6, 2012
I am currently taking NyQuil and have to take a piss test will it show up as alcohol?

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Andi420

Summit Argo, IL

#58 Sep 9, 2012
Coming Clean wrote:
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Maybe you should try cluing in and just stop drinking instead of trying to figure out how to beat some urine test. After all drinking is the reason why you are in trouble now. Obviously drinking is more important to you than staying out of trouble and getting on with life.
I'm going through the same thing in Indiana. Don't be a quitter, keep drinking. They'll use an 8 panel drug screen. Atop drinking 48 hrs in advance. Possibly go on a run it bike ride to sweat it out and you're good!
JINCO

United States

#59 Sep 10, 2012
Mike wrote:
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Hey, is an ETG test you're taking or a 6 or 8 Panel test? The panel tests don't test for alcohol, just drugs. Please let me know how it turns out...I've heard that they can test for the presence of this detoxing "potions" as well as other things...hope it works for you!
Hey I'm not sure I just know I got dinged for alcohol on it already :( I still haven't gotten the results from this one.
screwed

United States

#60 Sep 11, 2012
Does anyone have ANY info on blood alcoholic screening?? I had a full panel done at work, though I havn't claimed that I don't drink, I have indicated to my EAP creep that it isn't chronic. LOL, seriously though, I'm going to the company shrink tomorrow to discuss the results of this test and would like to know what the blood test can actually "prove". Please HELP!!
Revolution now

Broomfield, CO

#61 Sep 11, 2012
I would like people to consider that every constitutional right is being abused by the system right now. Has prohibition been passed again in the USA? No so how are they able to inflict prohibition laws with out the law stating hat alcohol is illegal? Every other right is being ignored too. Like using mediation to circumvent due process. And illegal search and seizure. While the driving part wasn't an issue when the constitution was written. And is a legitimate arguement, so fine just take a cab. Or get a ride. But making alcohol illegal with out passing any laws that make it illegal is an act of treason. By the government. So what shoul we do? Don't vote for Romney or Obama. Vote for a constitutionalist candidate like Ron Paul do a write in if needed. Or a libratarian candidate, these candidates want less government in our business. Think about it look up their platforms.
Revolution now

Broomfield, CO

#62 Sep 11, 2012
booley wrote:
I just started fed supervised release with this testing crap. Not a big drinker but I like a margarita now and then when we go to El Maguey for dinner. Does anybody else see we are in Nazi Germany? I'm pissed...like it matters
read my post further down yes we are being oppressed. We need to do something about it.
parole blows

Denver, CO

#63 Sep 14, 2012
Blood tests work the same as a breathalyzer. Once alcohol (ethanol) is out of your system, it won't show up in either blood or breath. A good rule of thumb for most people with average metabolism is one hour per drink for the alcohol to be metabolized. If liver problems exist or if a person has a higher concentration of fat cells, metabolism may take longer. The item being discussed here, ETG, is an entirely different ballgame. ETG is a bio-marker created by the metabolism of alcohol in the liver, and generally ETG levels "Peak" around 5-7 hours after your last drink and slowly decrease over time. I believe most people with normal liver function and average metabolism will pass an ETG test at around the 48 hour mark. Personally, I am on parole, and have bi-monthly "random" ua's which just happen to always fall within the same dates (give or take a day or two), and generally will not drink any alcohol for at least three days before the test. Some labs claim to detect 80 hours after last drink, to which I call "BS" on. That may be the case if someone drank a handle in one sitting, but on average, from my experience and research, three days to pass ETG is about right WITHOUT any detox supplements. With supplements, I'm sure the time would decrease. As far as blood tests go, if you would pass a roadside breathalyzer, you would pass a blood test.
parole blows

Denver, CO

#64 Sep 14, 2012
Revolution now wrote:
<quoted text> read my post further down yes we are being oppressed. We need to do something about it.
If you are in a situation similar to mine, I had to sign a form basically agreeing that I have no rights at this time and can have my person, home, or vehicle searched at any time without warning or warrant. I was told either to sign it and accept or I could always go back to prison for my parole period instead.(I would like to add that in my case, I was a first time offender involved in a bar fight which hurt the other guy more than it hurt me... with no previous offenses, college educated, family man, good career all destroyed by a system that insists on black and white when there are certainly grays) I agree completely with you that this is something that needs to be changed, but it is also something that won't be changed as long as politicians and over zealous district attorneys do their damnedest to criminalize average tax paying citizens for their (politicians) own personal advancement. The system won't change until the voters do. Remember every time you see a story on the news accusing someone of a felony and making them out to be the worst person to walk the earth, there is another side to that story that is not shared because it doesn't scare the crap out of the general public and increase ratings.

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