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#27 Jul 18, 2011
lol was looking for information pertaining to Mt. Sac because I'm going to be a new student there soon and stumbled across this page.
All I have to say is that I was a student at Fullerton College previously and they "tried" to ban smoking because of litter from butts.
The whole situation was pretty funny. First they just put up a whole bunch of no smoking signs and offered a quit smoking class but this didn't even put a dent in the amount of people who smoked on campus.
Then they decided to remove the ashtrays. ROFL-and they thought this was going to reduce the amount of cigarette butts? In the areas where the smokers used to gather there were literally piles and piles of butts that were littered because there were no longer any ashtrays to place the butts into.
Finally, even us smokers were getting sick of the mess in the places we liked to congregate so everybody pitched in a buck or two and we had somebody buy some ashtrays to replace the ones that the campus removed. Within a day campus security (rent-a-cops) had removed (stole) all of the ashtrays we had placed around campus in the smoking areas.
So people kept smoking even after that-and the butts piled up. I stopped going to Fullerton College but for some reason was walking through the campus recently and it looks like they're trying to bring back smoking areas now to certain parts of campus.
lol prohibition didn't work in the past with alcohol and it's not going to work today with other substances.
I just visited Mt. Sac. today for the first time since 2005 and it is a beautiful campus. I'd hate my future college to be ruined because of a few bitchy students who can't walk around the smoking areas. I don't want my future college to have butts all over the ground, AND, I've heard they're tight on money so who are they going to pay to clean up all the litter if they ban smoking there? Nobody is actually going to stop smoking on campus lol.
Also, sorry for reviving a dead thread-just my 2 cents. Thanks for listening.
#28 Jul 18, 2011
"Cut and paste"? I think he's got that stuff on "auto-text". If not, I apologize for giving him ideas.
#29 Jul 18, 2011
Sorry, scofflaw, but there would be no theft involved. In fact, you should have been facing littering fines for putting the ashtrays there.
Clearly the problem was lack of enforcement--and a shortage of law-abiding people among the smokers. I suspect that a few expulsions might have cleaned things up considerably--and been justified, judging by your characterization of the situation.
#30 Jul 21, 2011
Ron Paul For President or Fall of the United States of America!!!!!!!!!! http://www.commieblaster.com/
#31 Sep 28, 2011
I go to mtsac and the reason they are following through with it is because of the amount of money they would recieve from the tobacco tickets being given, these tickets hold a maximum fine of $500 and possible jail time as well as expulsion for disobeying some rent a cop. We have litteral gangsters and our school some one is going to get hurt
#32 Sep 29, 2011
It isn't a rent-a-cop being disobeyed, it is the law. Expulsion should absolutely be on the table, though not as an appetizer.
#33 Sep 30, 2011
Loony ideas such as this are cooked up in expensive radical 60s 70s era ideological based taxpayer funded universities in cities such as Berkeley and Long Beach. The purpose is to keep the hard working taxpaying minority off-balance while the public Treasury is being looted.
Lest we were to forget, it was revolutionary Long Beach Council who began the war against decent hard working tobacco smokers. Now, this most radical of revolutionary Councils has "progressed" to imposing Lowenthal grocery bag taxes on the now impoverished residents of the city.
Let us recall that it was the dream of the degenerate 60s 70s revolutionaries *(now in power)* to be able to feed off the hard working overburdened taxpayer by spending their entire lives in expensive taxpayer funded universities while smoking taxpayer supplied "free" pot. Radical Long Beach Council is ahead of the curve in this respect. While they increase unemployment in the city by imposing Lowenthal taxes on grocery and goods bags, they "help the economy" by legitimizing the selling of illegal pot in the city.*(for medicinal purposes only, of course)* One can only wonder when one of their high paid pot smoking agenda driven taxpayer supported judge pals will declare the RIGHT of druggies to be provided taxpayer funded "free" pot "medicine".
Incidentally, Soldier622. Despite the propaganda of the pot smoking elderly 60s 70s hippies and other revolutionary minded malcontents,- for the purpose of increased taxes and Governmental control only - most decent tobacco smokers live just as long as do most non-pot smoking non-tobacco smokers, and longer than great numbers of them. In addition, most non smokers are far healthier than sickly non smokers, millions of whom simply "drop dead" after getting a whiff of the proverbial "secondhand smoke".
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