Doctors "Fire" Patients Who Refuse Vaccines For Their Children: Ethical?

Feb 20, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WFMY 2 Greensboro

That's the extreme step some pediatricians are taking when it comes to dealing with parents who won't get their children vaccinated over concerns the injections cause autism or other side effects.

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Jul 19, 2012
 
I would get rid of a doctor like that.

I had a doctor that wanted all patients to use Statin drugs that
had any elevated cholesterol levels instead of a less damaging medication like Niacin. The doctor wouldn't even tell people of the seriousness of not taking a COq10 herbal product within a Statin drug because the pharmaceutical industry couldn't make a profit on the natural product and the doctor couldn't get a kickback and besides, the lack of COQ10 would bring further damage from muscle atrophy and memory loss of the statin drug that would increase profits IMO: Better get a doctor interested in herbal and conventional medicine to make decision then a doctor without concern for your health and welfare

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Jul 19, 2012
 
HumanSpirit wrote:
I would get rid of a doctor like that.
I had a doctor that wanted all patients to use Statin drugs that
had any elevated cholesterol levels instead of a less damaging medication like Niacin. The doctor wouldn't even tell people of the seriousness of not taking a COq10 herbal product within a Statin drug because the pharmaceutical industry couldn't make a profit on the natural product and the doctor couldn't get a kickback and besides, the lack of COQ10 would bring further damage from muscle atrophy and memory loss of the statin drug that would increase profits IMO: Better get a doctor interested in herbal and conventional medicine to make decision then a doctor without concern for your health and welfare
Then go see a naturopathic doctor instead of a doctor of medicine. It's not up to the patient to decide what treatments the doctor should offer.

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And just how would one know a doctor wanted all his patients to use a certain drug? Would that not be violating privacy laws?? Research on whether Co q10 supplements are beneficial in people taking statins is still inconclusive, and it varies with age. It;s not like everyone who would take a stain drug would have lowered Co q10. Hello. Co q10 is not routinely recommended in combination with statin therapy. Aside from that, it's not like the natural products sales people don't ant to make a huge profit.
And last, statin drugs has not one thing to do with this topic.
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And just how would one know a doctor wanted all his patients to use a certain drug? Would that not be violating privacy laws?? Research on whether Co q10 supplements are beneficial in people taking statins is still inconclusive, and it varies with age. It;s not like everyone who would take a stain drug would have lowered Co q10. Hello. Co q10 is not routinely recommended in combination with statin therapy. Aside from that, it's not like the natural products sales people don't ant to make a huge profit.
And last, statin drugs has not one thing to do with this topic.
I have read that the European union countries require that CO q 10 HAVE A REQUIREMENT for doctors to inform persons prescribed Statin drugs. I will dig the article up for you.
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Then go see a naturopathic doctor instead of a doctor of medicine. It's not up to the patient to decide what treatments the doctor should offer.
I use both to make a informed decision. I lack confidences in the pharmaceutical industries since the hogwash of the Bush presidency and the mental health industry. Too many headjobs on non science from the industry.

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I have read that the European union countries require that CO q 10 HAVE A REQUIREMENT for doctors to inform persons prescribed Statin drugs. I will dig the article up for you.
Don't bother, I don't really care and that doctor has nothing to do with doctors over all, or to this topic. All this is doing is deflecting from what the topic is.
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Why Does Mainstream Medicine Ignore This Lifesaving Nutrient ... www.liveinthenow.com/.../why-does-mainstream-... ... Nov 19, 2011 In Europe and Japan, CoQ10 is much more mainstream than it is here in ... but didn't hesitate to prescribe me a statin drug to reduce my slightly ...
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And just how would one know a doctor wanted all his patients to use a certain drug? Would that not be violating privacy laws?? Research on whether Co q10 supplements are beneficial in people taking statins is still inconclusive, and it varies with age. It;s not like everyone who would take a stain drug would have lowered Co q10. Hello. Co q10 is not routinely recommended in combination with statin therapy. Aside from that, it's not like the natural products sales people don't ant to make a huge profit.
And last, statin drugs has not one thing to do with this topic.
Everyone knows that medical privacy laws by the Bush presidency (2004) was to hide and conceal the wrong doing in the medical, psychiatric professions along with the pharmacutical industries and defective products and other health related items. Have you been asleep.

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Everyone knows that medical privacy laws by the Bush presidency (2004) was to hide and conceal the wrong doing in the medical, psychiatric professions along with the pharmacutical industries and defective products and other health related items. Have you been asleep.
Funny. The only everyone who believes that are anti vaxxers and anti modern medicine. Still doesn't explain how you'd know info you shouldn't about other patients but who cares. It's hear say. And you're deflecting from the topic. I'm sure there's a alternative Medicine forum for you some where.
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Funny. The only everyone who believes that are anti vaxxers and anti modern medicine. Still doesn't explain how you'd know info you shouldn't about other patients but who cares. It's hear say. And you're deflecting from the topic. I'm sure there's a alternative Medicine forum for you some where.
Hearsay is something the mental health does without a science. Alternative medicine and pharmaceutical conventional medicine is all chemistry. A doctors not worth the time of day if they overlook the best interest of the patient concerning medicine.

Many persons with their medical records are allowing anyone with concern to see their medical records by indicating so on any medical form requiring their signature. Many have legal papers drawn up to allow all specified persons including caretakers. Some states have the written law concerning relatives which is in the best interest of the public.

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Hearsay is something the mental health does without a science. Alternative medicine and pharmaceutical conventional medicine is all chemistry.
Alternative medicine is voodoo, not chemistry.

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Hear say is anyone bad mouthing some unknown doctor which can not be confirmed.
Alternative medicine AKA Supplements doesn't require FDA approval, or testing prior to it's release to the public. They often contain fillers and impurities.

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Well how productive.
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Alternative medicine is voodoo, not chemistry.
no, voodoo, crystal ball gazing and Tarot card readings is the trademark of the Mental Health Industry and their profsession without a science.

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<quoted text> Duh, if your child is vaccinated how can it get sick at the doctor's office The_Bozo?
Vaccines don't offer 100% protection and children can be exposed before they get the vaccines.

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no, voodoo, crystal ball gazing and Tarot card readings is the trademark of the Mental Health Industry and their profsession without a science.
Sure, buddy.

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<quoted text> Duh, if your child is vaccinated how can it get sick at the doctor's office The_Bozo?
Babies who haven't had the set of pertussis vaccines have not had the chance to build the immunity, "duh". And that goes for other vaccine series. Babies younger than 12 to 15 months haven't had the MMR vaccine. "duh".

Obviously doctors and other people understand this far better than Winnipeg Canada does.

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HumanSpirit wrote:
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Hearsay is something the mental health does without a science. Alternative medicine and pharmaceutical conventional medicine is all chemistry. A doctors not worth the time of day if they overlook the best interest of the patient concerning medicine.
Many persons with their medical records are allowing anyone with concern to see their medical records by indicating so on any medical form requiring their signature. Many have legal papers drawn up to allow all specified persons including caretakers. Some states have the written law concerning relatives which is in the best interest of the public.
Oh of course, the mental health system isn't grounded in science, but alternative health care on the other hand...
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Oh of course, the mental health system isn't grounded in science, but alternative health care on the other hand...
There is no science to the mental health industry. It is based on hearsay and is political. There's chemistry to herbal medicines as well as pharmaceuticals.

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Ok, since mental health industry is based on hearsay and is political, why would anyone then need herbal medicines. It's off topic.

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