Genetic risks found in half of autistic children, new study shows

Jul 11, 2013 Full story: The Toronto Star 29

A new study has identified genetic risk in 50 per cent of autism cases, bringing scientists closer to unraveling the mysteries of the neurological disorder .

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#1 Jul 11, 2013
Look at that, a Canadian study about genetics!
RAY

Brossard, Canada

#2 Jul 11, 2013
Its garbage. There is no cause gene with autism since there is no biological pattern determined. many have these candidate genes but not everyone has autism.

Its very easy to run a blood test and compare data to pull out common genes but this is no indication that the biological process is determined.

For all we know, the participants on autism sepctrum could be (20), 10 pdd-nos, 8 aspergers and 2 classic autism. No wonder you would find genes in the pool but doesnt mean you have any more advanced on autism.
RAY

Brossard, Canada

#3 Jul 11, 2013
LOL: Genetic risk.

Isnt there genetic risk in cancer/diabetes and all other diseases.

Wait there is a risk. just a RISK LOL. But when you vaccinate and you cant walk all of a sudden, they call it coincidence, underlying medical condition...hahahha. Toronto Star more like Toronto Loser
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#4 Jul 12, 2013
So Brossard RAY thinks he is more qualified than medical scientists and geneticists does he. In reality, he is just another Canadian with his head buried firmly in the sand, when it comes to comes to the risk factors and causes of autistic spectrum disorders.

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#5 Jul 12, 2013
Doesn't matter what he thinks, he's just denying the evidence and every anti vaxxer does the same thing when genetics is presented. It wouldn't matter what form of autism they had, either. Science has already identify about 20 percent of genetic causes, and anti vaxxers laughed at it. This study identified 50 percent in four previously unrecognized genes.

Science speaks for itself. Yet another bad day for anti vaxxers.
Ray

Brossard, Canada

#6 Jul 12, 2013
ric99 wrote:
So Brossard RAY thinks he is more qualified than medical scientists and geneticists does he. In reality, he is just another Canadian with his head buried firmly in the sand, when it comes to comes to the risk factors and causes of autistic spectrum disorders.
if i tell iam a researche, would you believe me.
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#7 Jul 13, 2013
If Brossard Ray told me he was a researcher in medical science or genetics, I would not believe him. What does he know about epigenetics?

He says that "many have these candidate genes but not everyone has autism", and uses this argument as a reason for genes not being the cause of autism, yet he fails to understand that millions are vaccinated, but only a small percentage are diagnosed with autism, or that the percentages of vaccinated and unvaccinated who are diagnosed with autism are about the same.

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#8 Jul 13, 2013
He's not a researcher, of any kind and certainly not one within the medical field. No reseacher would compare this study to genetic risk to cancer/ diabetes and all other diseases. Only an anti vaxxer would do that without realizing he's pointing to genetics. If he understood science at all, he'd understand what he is comparing and how the risks factors work. For instance, women who have the abnormal BRCA1 or BRCA2 gene have a 80 percent risk of being diagnosed with breast cancer. Those 2 genes are inhereited and that biological pattern/ cause was only discovered in 1994.

Science concerning autism isn't too far behind. This study, along with many others, are finding the biological patterns within genes, and it has not a thing to do with vaccines.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Jul 13, 2013
RAY wrote:
Its garbage. There is no cause gene with autism since there is no biological pattern determined. many have these candidate genes but not everyone has autism.
Its very easy to run a blood test and compare data to pull out common genes but this is no indication that the biological process is determined.
For all we know, the participants on autism sepctrum could be (20), 10 pdd-nos, 8 aspergers and 2 classic autism. No wonder you would find genes in the pool but doesnt mean you have any more advanced on autism.
they have been trying to link the Fragile X to autism
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1... Investigations of the association between autism and the fragile-X syndrome have yielded conflicting results with some studies indicating a strong correlation and others indicating no relation between the disorders.
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http://www.fragilex.org/fragile-x-associated-... Whereas autism is a behavioral diagnosis, fragile X syndrome (FXS) is a medical or more accurately, a genetic diagnosis. When associated with FXS, the autism is caused by the genetic change or mutation in the Fragile X gene.
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http://www.autismtoday.com/articles/Is%20It%2... Fragile X Syndrome is an X-linked hereditary disease affecting cognitive, physical, and sensory development. It involves genetic repeats found near the tip of the X chromosome.
.....There are many overlapping characteristics between Autistic and Fragile X Syndrome children. These include hand flapping, poor eye contact, repetitive, self-stimulating motor behaviors, as well as difficulty with social interactions, and poor play skills.
AFRAID OF JENNY WHY

Winnipeg, Canada

#15 Jul 20, 2013
friend wrote:
Look at that, a Canadian study about genetics!
ITS not a Canadian study, its international with a small portion of Canadian children involved. Hardly matters when its junk science.
AFRAID OF JENNY WHY

Winnipeg, Canada

#16 Jul 20, 2013
ric99 wrote:
If Brossard Ray told me he was a researcher in medical science or genetics, I would not believe him. What does he know about epigenetics?
He says that "many have these candidate genes but not everyone has autism", and uses this argument as a reason for genes not being the cause of autism, yet he fails to understand that millions are vaccinated, but only a small percentage are diagnosed with autism, or that the percentages of vaccinated and unvaccinated who are diagnosed with autism are about the same.
You're the one who doesn't get it UK. Only 3-9 percent have been identified as inherited. The rest are unknown with ENVIRONMENT having the most influence. Vaccine injections are part of the environmental exposure to chemicals and viral components and more. And Ray is right, they have found candidate genes in many who are not autistic because they haven't had the right ones triggered by vaccines. Having genes simply means having them. Being autistic that is the 91-97 percent who are regressive are vaccine caused.

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#17 Jul 20, 2013
Hate to inform you, Centre for Applied Genomics lab happens to be in Canada. It stems from an international collaborative, but this study in fact was done in Canada.
You're also wrong about that 3 to 9 percent. Try and keep up on science. Science has already identify about 20 percent of genetic causes, and anti vaxxers laughed at it and still deny it. This study identified 50 percent in four previously unrecognized genes, and to no surprise anti vaxxers deny this, too!
ric99

Caistor, UK

#19 Jul 20, 2013
The study talks about spontaneous mutations (which are caused by copying errors at conception), and other mutations that are inherited. Neither of these types can be caused by environmental factors such as vaccines. The Winnipeg dummy needs to learn how to read and comprehend what he is reading, or donít Winnipeg schools teach that?

If the vast majority of autism cases were regressive and caused by vaccines (as the Winnipeg dummy claims), then the percentage of autism cases among vaccinated kids would greatly exceed the percentage among unvaccinated kids. Many studies (such as the NEJM published study) show beyond any doubt that this is not the case. Therefore vaccines CANNOT be the cause. Only someone like the Winnipeg dummy, with his head firmly buried in the sand, would not realize this.
friend says DUH

Winnipeg, Canada

#21 Jul 20, 2013
friend wrote:
Hate to inform you, Centre for Applied Genomics lab happens to be in Canada. It stems from an international collaborative, but this study in fact was done in Canada.
You're also wrong about that 3 to 9 percent. Try and keep up on science. Science has already identify about 20 percent of genetic causes, and anti vaxxers laughed at it and still deny it. This study identified 50 percent in four previously unrecognized genes, and to no surprise anti vaxxers deny this, too!
Your the last person I'd take seriously about any of this. Your comprehension is in the toilet. I read this B.S. study and its a joke.
friend says DUH

Winnipeg, Canada

#22 Jul 20, 2013
ric99 wrote:
The study talks about spontaneous mutations (which are caused by copying errors at conception), and other mutations that are inherited. Neither of these types can be caused by environmental factors such as vaccines. The Winnipeg dummy needs to learn how to read and comprehend what he is reading, or donít Winnipeg schools teach that?
If the vast majority of autism cases were regressive and caused by vaccines (as the Winnipeg dummy claims), then the percentage of autism cases among vaccinated kids would greatly exceed the percentage among unvaccinated kids. Many studies (such as the NEJM published study) show beyond any doubt that this is not the case. Therefore vaccines CANNOT be the cause. Only someone like the Winnipeg dummy, with his head firmly buried in the sand, would not realize this.
This imbecile makes up his own trash science if he can't find any. He's in a tie for imbecile of the year with friend of PHARMA.

Since: Jan 07

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#23 Jul 20, 2013
No one cares one way or another about believing me, or care that a tiny little anti vaxxer cant understand a simple article and denies it relevance. None of your small attempts to attack others will never change the facts within science, or others ability to comprehend the importance of the findings within science.
friend says DUH

Winnipeg, Canada

#24 Jul 20, 2013
It says half of autistic children IN THIS STUDY, which means it applies ONLY to children in the study. And what about the other half with ZERO genetic risk? Once again you focus on one number and not the other. So 50 are autistic why, and the others have risk, not certainty. So stop celebrating NOTHING because thats what it is, just blah blah.

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#25 Jul 20, 2013
If that were at true, then the 12 in Wakefield's study would ONLY apply to those 12!! BAWAHAHAHA!! Thanks for pointing out how studies work! Now don't forget to apply that to any and all studies! BAWAHAHAHAHA!!!

(It cant get any better than that with anti vaxxers for a good laugh!!)
ric99

Spilsby, UK

#26 Jul 21, 2013
The Winnipeg dummy claims that "I make up my own trash science if I can't find any", when I actually make reference to genuine peer reviewed studies. On the other hand, the Winnipeg dummy either states that vaccines cause autism, without any reference to a scientific study as evidence, or he just gives a list of conspiracy theory/quackery sites that don't refer to any genuine study. No prizes for guessing who the imbecile is.
DOCTORS R DEALERS PUSHERS

Winnipeg, Canada

#27 Jul 21, 2013
friend wrote:
If that were at true, then the 12 in Wakefield's study would ONLY apply to those 12!! BAWAHAHAHA!! Thanks for pointing out how studies work! Now don't forget to apply that to any and all studies! BAWAHAHAHAHA!!!
(It cant get any better than that with anti vaxxers for a good laugh!!)
More DUH. Who ever said 12 Wakefield patients meant anything for others EXCEPT the media? Who ever said 12 represented a true STUDY except lunatics? Stusies only mean so much or so little. Face value is suspect at best. Only provacs think studies are solid evidence.

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