'Viva Viagra' ads don't reflect life

Erectile dysfunction has gone from something men were ashamed to admit to their doctors to something they sit around bars and sing about. Read more
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Nadiezda

United States

#1 Sep 17, 2007
HRT wasn't meant to be the female counterpart to viagra. Unless of course men get hot flashes, dry skin, etc. I realized that it may help some woman in the sex department but I do not believe, and I could be that wrong, that that was the dominent intent of the drug. But most importantly, my mom got breast cancer from HRT and clearly you're not getting that little "something extras" from Viagra. btw, they're still working on the "official" female counterpart to Viagra and are having a difficult time because of course as we all know, women respond differntly. Case in point, a friend of ours had a surprise baby when she was 40. She said she didn't know how it happened. WE joked, you're an electrical engineer and you don't know who it happened? She laughed and said, hey he was washing the dishes.....I don't think men find THAT sexy.
J-Go

Rochester, MI

#2 Sep 17, 2007
Our culture's obsession with satisfying sex has reached epidemic levels, and our relationships are suffering for it. I have gotten to the point where I no longer associate with some women friends who talk about little else but the condition of their sex lives. Viagra, Cialis and the like only perpetuate the myth that it's important to have HOT sex, no matter what the impact is on health, emotional or physical. I understand men with physical disabilities or illnesses who consider these "miracle" drugs, my question to them would be, why introduce another drug to your body, when you're already probably taking drugs to deal with your medical condition? Why not have the patience and openness to explore alternatives to "sex like you're 20" with your partner? These drugs only mask one symptom of a problem that has physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual roots.
The Truth

United States

#3 Sep 17, 2007
Dear Viagra Haters,

If your arm stopped working and there was a drug out there to fix the problem, wouldn't you take it?

Maybe you would take up "morning walks" instead? Morons!
Susan

Chicago, IL

#4 Sep 17, 2007
If I didn't need my arm to function in daily life, no, I would not take another drug.

Speaking of morons, it's moronic to take risky blood-pressure increasing drugs to get a sex fix.

It's your body, though.
Gloom and Doom

Silver Spring, MD

#5 Sep 17, 2007
They reflect the greed of big pharma out there advitersing a Rx drug to get you to buy it. Direct to Consumer advertising of Rx drugs should be banned by Congress. They spend more moneyu on advertisements that they spend on R&D trying to develop a drug that may really work for something. I would estimate that out of the millions upon millions of Viagra pills sold, less than half actually went to men with ED. They need to use the generic name for Viagra in these ads "mycoxafloppin". Perhaps they could even reap more business. We can fine a pill to give you a boner, but we can't find a cure for Aids or Cancer. Hey Big Pharma!, just put some more money in your Congressman's pocket and you should be OK.
just me

Lynnwood, WA

#7 Sep 17, 2007
This is just like any other medication out there it's neither evil or good. It just is.

Some people need it for legit medical reasons, some people don't have a true medical need for it but push and push until they get their prescriptions in the hopes of turning themselves into "super men". And some people from both groups use it as a crutch to avoid the "work" of a stimulating sex life, or as a crutch to excuse inappropriate behavior.

If you / your partner falls into one of the last 2 groups, then blame yourself / your partner (or, even your Dr. who gave you a prescription for an unneeded medication), but again, the pill is inanimate - it's neither good nor evil - it's how it's used that matters.
just me

Lynnwood, WA

#8 Sep 17, 2007
One other thought - it's like my son. He's ADHD. Now, he's not on meds (and hasn't been for yrs), because diet and behavior modifications worked for him, but while we were developing those specialized skills (more so than non ADHD kids need) and exploring the dietary stuff, he was on meds. He truly needed them, and when he didn't, he didn't take them any more, but there was SUCH a stigma, because there are SO many kids out there who are misdiganosed and put on meds for it, because their parents don't want to deal with them, or because for Non ADHD kids the meds act as a stimulant and act as "a smart pill".(which is why there are college students who buy Ritalin on the street, so they can stay up for cram sessions, etc.)

It's not the drug's fault, nor should the people who need it not have (controlled) access to it. It's the people who abuse it that are the problem.

(Though I do have to say I have a problem with some health companies. My sister's insurance will cover Viagra for men, because that's "a medical need" but won't cover birth control pills, because "that's a reproductive issue" - even though some women use it to regulate their periods, and the "medical need" is sexually related...)
The Truth

United States

#9 Sep 17, 2007
OK then, what about all of the people who actually enjoy sex, not the harpies who cant stop complaining that their husbands (gasp!) want sex?
There are women out there who have partners who are diabetic or had prostate cancer, etc. who also suffer the loss of their sex life. For them, I say - VIVA VIAGRA!
mimi

Lake Zurich, IL

#10 Sep 17, 2007
I've got news for Grace, HRT isn't the only thing implicated in a woman's so-called unnatural sex urges. Menopause itself may be at the root of it, or maybe freedom from fear of pregnancy. My first few years of menopause, sans HRT, were like second adolescence: occasionally embarrassing as all get-out, but then so was first adolescence. I really don't think we know anymore what's an unnatural sex drive. This is not to discount what Grace has said, but pills aren't the only source of social weirdness here. People of both sexes had and still have midlife eccentricities without medication. Maybe HRT and Viagra just enable a little more acting out, but the thinking was already there.
wildman

Titusville, FL

#11 Sep 17, 2007
i cannot get that sorry song out of my head-i sing it at work, while at the coffee house, while mowing the grass, in my sleep, when in the shower-and i don't even take it. beware though, if your erection lasts 3-4 hours you need to go the the emergency room and have that thing cared for by a medical professional.
Polarity

Washington, DC

#12 Sep 17, 2007
Susan wrote:
If I didn't need my arm to function in daily life, no, I would not take another drug.
That's an extraordinarily high standard. You're asking people (men with ED, in this case) to give up an entire area of life -- sexual intimacy -- simply because one does not "need" it to "function in daily life".

Would you take the same point of view with women who want breast reconstruction surgery after a mastectomy? After all, she doesn't <em>need</em> her breasts to <em> function in daily life</em>, does she?

Or with menopausal women who take hormone replacement therapy?
Jim

Richmond Hill, Canada

#13 Sep 17, 2007
Washington DC (AP): The FDA announced today that after careful review and consideration of potential names for a generic version of Viagra, a team of government experts has settled on the generic name of Mycoxafloppin. Also considered were Mycoxafailin, Mydixadrupin, Mydixarizin, Dixafix, and of course, Ibepokin.

As a result of a generic being offered, Pfizer Corp separately announced today that Viagra will soon be available in liquid form. Through a licensing agreement with Pepsico, it will be marketed and distributed as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer. Pfizer and Pepsico announced in a joint statement that iIt will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one.

Obviously, the public can no longer call this a soft drink. It also gives new meaning to the names of "cocktails", "highballs" and just a good old-fashioned "stiff drink." Pepsico said it will market the new concoction under the brand name "MOUNT & DO".
wildman

Titusville, FL

#14 Sep 18, 2007
thats good because i cannot even prounounce those pharm names.
Jim wrote:
Washington DC (AP): The FDA announced today that after careful review and consideration of potential names for a generic version of Viagra, a team of government experts has settled on the generic name of Mycoxafloppin. Also considered were Mycoxafailin, Mydixadrupin, Mydixarizin, Dixafix, and of course, Ibepokin.
As a result of a generic being offered, Pfizer Corp separately announced today that Viagra will soon be available in liquid form. Through a licensing agreement with Pepsico, it will be marketed and distributed as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer. Pfizer and Pepsico announced in a joint statement that iIt will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one.
Obviously, the public can no longer call this a soft drink. It also gives new meaning to the names of "cocktails", "highballs" and just a good old-fashioned "stiff drink." Pepsico said it will market the new concoction under the brand name "MOUNT & DO".
Jim

Naperville, IL

#15 Sep 18, 2007
:) I thought it was a hilarious parody too!
Jim

Toronto, Canada

#16 Sep 18, 2007
The mind reels with belly-busting possibilities of generic names for the female equivalent.
Tamara

United States

#17 Sep 18, 2007
just me wrote:
One other thought - it's like my son. He's ADHD. Now, he's not on meds (and hasn't been for yrs), because diet and behavior modifications worked for him, but while we were developing those specialized skills (more so than non ADHD kids need) and exploring the dietary stuff, he was on meds. He truly needed them, and when he didn't, he didn't take them any more, but there was SUCH a stigma, because there are SO many kids out there who are misdiganosed and put on meds for it, because their parents don't want to deal with them, or because for Non ADHD kids the meds act as a stimulant and act as "a smart pill".(which is why there are college students who buy Ritalin on the street, so they can stay up for cram sessions, etc.)
It's not the drug's fault, nor should the people who need it not have (controlled) access to it. It's the people who abuse it that are the problem.
(Though I do have to say I have a problem with some health companies. My sister's insurance will cover Viagra for men, because that's "a medical need" but won't cover birth control pills, because "that's a reproductive issue" - even though some women use it to regulate their periods, and the "medical need" is sexually related...)
Ya, gotta love the insurance companies. I would love to be a fly on the wall when they debated that one (whether to cover birth control/viagra. Kind of goes hand in hand doesn't it?)
Gary

Lincoln, NE

#18 Sep 18, 2007
It is my memory that Viagra was developed as a heart medication. during the testing phase, it was discovered to be ineffective as a heart medication, but it has side effects.

You may not use viagra with certain other heart medications. ie nitroglycerin
Jim

Richmond Hill, Canada

#19 Sep 19, 2007
Tamara wrote:
Ya, gotta love the insurance companies. I would love to be a fly on the wall when they debated that one (whether to cover birth control/viagra. Kind of goes hand in hand doesn't it?)
Up here in Canada, neither the pill nor Viagra are covered (both may be partially subsidized, but then again who knows the real cost of a drug... that is another debate).

The irony that you and Cheryl the columnist are missing is that Viagra is NOT an aphrodisiac for men. Instead though, female partners regularly report increased sensation (joy) from their partner's use of Viagra.

So Tamara, your perceived injustice/female victimization by health insurance companies is unfounded (i.e., that in the states, Viagra is sometimes covered but birth control is not).
J-Go

Rochester, MI

#20 Sep 20, 2007
Jim, there is no perceived injustice - there is a real injustice.

Viagra is a treatment for a medical condition and has other uses. Birth control pills are a treatment for a medical condition (dysmenorhhea) and have other uses. You say Viagra creates greater enjoyment of sex for men and women. I hate to break it to you, but birth control pills do the same, freeing couples of the fear of pregnancy. Yet one is covered, the other is not.

But the larger injustice is this: Health insurance companies say they're not discriminating because they don't cover any male contraception or any female contraception. That's equal, right?

Well, no. It completely rejects the reality that pregnancy and childbirth affect men and women differently. Pregnancy puts a woman's life and health at risk. An unplanned pregnancy can destroy a woman's life. Sexism often hides behind the word "equality," while prepetuating a condition that is not at all equitable. Men and women are not equal and will never be, but we should be treated equitably.
Jim

Richmond Hill, Canada

#21 Sep 20, 2007
J-Go,
Re-read my post, I said that it creates enjoyment for women only... not for men. You should be happy some health insurance companies cover it.

As far as the pill... it's the woman's physiology, that makes the difference.:) And her attitude.

As for your comment that "sexism" hides behind the word "equality," while prepetuating a condition that is not at all equitable. I wholeheartedly agree!!!

That's why a greater percentage of women who choose to have a career (not a job) in corporate rise and rise faster up the ranks than the percentage of men who choose to have a career (and not a job). If you compare salaries by adjusting for years of experience, then women's salaries exceed men's.

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