A mother's vaccine journey

Mar 26, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: StarTribune

Hodan Hassan of Minneapolis understands why some parents are afraid to have their children vaccinated.

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News flash. Robbing a bank is not comparible to medical science. Hello! Even in a robbery, you'd need more than 'eye' witnesses, you'd need evidence and those witnesses generally aren't blood related to the accused nor expecting a payday for what they say.

Debunked, again.

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You anti-vaxxers use the wakefield report as supposedly solid evidence about vaccines and autism.
Get with the times??? Funny, maybe he should tell that to the anti vaxxer who brought Wakefield up! But even better, Winnipeg brings Wakefield up all the time and do you know why? That's the only person anti vaxxers have! If there was anyone else, they wouldn't then keep relying on that unemployed has-been doctor!

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friend wrote:
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Get with the times??? Funny, maybe he should tell that to the anti vaxxer who brought Wakefield up! But even better, Winnipeg brings Wakefield up all the time and do you know why? That's the only person anti vaxxers have! If there was anyone else, they wouldn't then keep relying on that unemployed has-been doctor!
Thing is, these anti-vaxxers tend to treat wakefield as a deity. And his false report as the 'holy gospel' on the subject.
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Sangelia wrote:
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You anti-vaxxers use the wakefield report as supposedly solid evidence about vaccines and autism.
WRONG. It wasn't anything but medical care that began with investigation and progressed to the report. Wakefield NEVER said MMR caused autism but indicated there may be a connection with MMR and gut issues that needed further study. The media said he found the cause of autism, not Wakefield. Shows you don't have a clue what you're blabbering about, like friend-duh and ricDUH99
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friend wrote:
News flash. Robbing a bank is not comparible to medical science. Hello! Even in a robbery, you'd need more than 'eye' witnesses, you'd need evidence and those witnesses generally aren't blood related to the accused nor expecting a payday for what they say.
Debunked, again.
What a dumb cow.
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Get with the times??? Funny, maybe he should tell that to the anti vaxxer who brought Wakefield up! But even better, Winnipeg brings Wakefield up all the time and do you know why? That's the only person anti vaxxers have! If there was anyone else, they wouldn't then keep relying on that unemployed has-been doctor!
What a dumb sow

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All the name-calling doesn't change the facts or anti vaxxers being debunked. Wakefield's study never did claim the MMR caused autism however Sangelia never said the paper did. But everyone could see that due to all the 12 within the paper having autism, hello, when the media asked Wakefield, he never said otherwise. Interesting, Wakefield's paper shows mass hysteria over that one paper of Wakefield's and odd how Wakefield Never set anyone straight at the time, and why? Because he did have an agenda, manipulated his paper but still he was busted.

To this day anti vaxxers still use and abuse that study, as shown directly on this topic. And that's even after everyone knows attorneys funded it for the purpose to use Wakefield's data in court. The facts are Wakefield falsified data and performed painful and unneeded medical procedures, and harmed one of the 12 children, and the chicken of a doctor didn't even appeal the ruling aaginst him.

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All he can muster is that??!! Great example of an anti vaxxer in denial who has zilch in evidence.

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friend wrote:
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Get with the times??? Funny, maybe he should tell that to the anti vaxxer who brought Wakefield up! But even better, Winnipeg brings Wakefield up all the time and do you know why? That's the only person anti vaxxers have! If there was anyone else, they wouldn't then keep relying on that unemployed has-been doctor!
I''m looking forward to the days where tests like the ones on the links will be common to use.
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http://sfari.org/news-and-opinion/toolbox/201... The approach used in KaryoArray, known as chromosomal microarray analysis, detects missing or duplicated regions of a chromosome, or copy number variations (CNVs). The technique matches areas of an individual's entire genome to pieces of a reference genome on a microarray, or chip.
...CNVs are more common in individuals with autism than in the general population.
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http://www.lifenews.com/2013/08/11/researcher... A GENETIC “signature” of autism in babies as young as 12 months has been identified for the first time, an international conference is to be told.

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There is still nothing to support a definitive biological difference between early-onset and regressive autism, however, some available research shows that males with regressive autism have brains that are six percent larger than anyone with early-onset autism. That would have nothing at all to do with vaccines. The accelerated head growth and brain enlargement is the cause, and that may one day get it's own diagnosis.
There also is no 'real' difference between the 'issue'. Autism is autism and affects each almost the same regardless, but certainly at different severities.

As for the rest with early onset autism, science has for quite some time found the genetic markers and it's only a matter of time before these tests will be available.
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Further to that, the study carried out at the University of California, Davis found that the accelerated brain enlargement in boys with regressive autism was present at birth, i.e. before any vaccinations. That would rule out vaccines as a cause completely, unless time runs backwards in these boys' brains, LOL.

Of course the Winnipeg dummy is going to say that this is "Junk Science, paid for by Big Pharma", and then add a few of his usual insults.

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Aside from that, there is no true universal definition of 'regression'. I am sure anti vaxxers define it to suit them and their conspiracies.

Other disorders can cause regression as well, for instance Rett syndrome and Landau-Kleffner syndrome. Both have noting to do with vaccines.
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goose wrote:
You must be one of those anti-science illiterate teabaggers.
goose the woos

ask your mama who she was teabagging last night
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The Winnipeg dummy clearly didn't read the University of California, Davis study of boys with regressive autism. Either that or he was too dumb to understand it. Brain size measurements were taken starting from birth, i.e. before vaccinations.

The Winnipeg dummy doesn't like the results, so he resorts to his usual infantile response of "junk science" and hurling insults.

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Actually, I did bring up landau kleffner syndrome however the onset of that has nothing at all to do with autism nor vaccines.

Fragile X and Retts are both genetic in the X chromosome, Angelman's is also genetic, and is present on both the maternal and paternal chromosomes.

So thanks for that "Pay special attention" and examples. Only a 'BABOON' would attempt to link it to vaccines with no evidence. The UK person is correct, either anti vaxxers clearly don't understand what the post or they wouldn't be posting it.

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I did read them, obviously you didn't and still need that biology and science course.
News flash: When boys develop the Rett syndrome mutation, they die shortly after birth. Because boys have only one X chromosome (instead of the two girls have), the Retts is more serious, and quickly fatal. The mutation happens withn their DNA upon conception.

Landau kleffner syndrome has nothing at all to do with autism nor vaccines, except it is often misdiagnosed as autism.
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The Winnipeg dummy's memory is failing. I have linked to the UC Davis study before. His reply clearly indicates that he didn't even read it then before dismissing it as "junk science".

The study contains the following:-

“Changes in brain size were not apparent in boys who did not experience a regression.”

“Many families believe that the trigger that led to their child's regression took place close to the time that the regression happened. But the data reported in this paper indicate that the process leading to the enlarged brain, which presumably also is associated with the onset of autism, started when the child was a newborn.”
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In reply to the clear evidence from the UC Davis study, all the Winnipeg dummy can manage are more quackery blogs.

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Got that right. We'll just skip the first link, but the second is a charm. Quackery is right. That blog references studies about getting the measles regardless of being vaccinated. Funny, one study was done in 1970 and another study in 1980. More abuse of studies. Both studies are prior to the booster being added and these studies demonstrate a booster was needed.

They also make the claim 'Many of these children with autism have the live measles from the vaccine, destroying their gut and bowels. Aka, AUTISM.' This is not true, either. In order to know this, each childwould have to have had a colonscopy and most children with autism have never had one done. Studies attempting to replicate Wakefield's show this is untrue of those with autism.

Speaking of jokes, the blog certainly is and so is anyone who bases their science off other people without ever researching their facts, which weren't facts at all. Thanks for the glimpse into a day of an anti vaxxer!

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