Buckhannon bans tobacco use in parks

Buckhannon bans tobacco use in parks

There are 111 comments on the The Inter-Mountain story from Mar 24, 2013, titled Buckhannon bans tobacco use in parks. In it, The Inter-Mountain reports that:

Buckhannon City Council passed an ordinance last week that would require city park patrons to nix traditional forms of nicotine, should it go into effect.

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U still here

United States

#43 Mar 28, 2013
Rockcavedude wrote:
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Put your hands on me for smoking a cigarette and you won't have a job, dick.
We thought you told you us you were leaving West Virginia because doctors refuse to give you drugs. Yet you're still here.

Go Away!

Nobody will miss you when you're gone.
Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

Loser~!!!
Justsayin

Elkview, WV

#44 Mar 28, 2013
Smoke Free Forever wrote:
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First, I can name two people that were harmed by second hand smoke. My wife and I. And I will prove it to you. Do you have an open mind? I am a retired veteran with over 22 years of service. My wife and I are in great shape. Fifteen years ago my wife and I started going to one of Delaware’s Casinos about once every other month. They allowed smoking and it was smoke filled. After spending the weekend one of us or both of us would always leave with sinus infections, sore throats, cough, headaches. Sometimes we would have to be on antibiotics for the sinus infections.
Then around 2003 Delaware Casinos went 100% smoke free and guess what? When we left the casino we NEVER had any harmful health effects from the lack of second hand smoke. Coincidence? I think not.
The ones that I really felt sorry for were the employees of the casinos, they had to breathe the second hand smoke for their entire shift all the time. Imagine the long term damage it did to the employees. Many of the casino employees started their careers long before the hazards of second hand smoke were proven without a doubt. Should they have to give up their careers because of YOUR filthy harmful smoking addiction? Absolutely Not! Delaware Casinos are still doing a booming business even after going smoke free over 10 years ago.
If I lived in a backward state that still allowed smoking in my workplace I'd have soooooo many lawsuits it
wouldn't be funny. The states know the hazards and did NOTHING to protect ALL the employees of the state. What the hell is wrong with them? Shame on them!
Strange 22 years in the service ,I was in the service also ,everyone smoked like freight trains you never experienced any symptoms then simply amazing no symptoms until you got into a casino ,wonder why the people directly smoking were not getting sick maybe just maybe it was the friggin chemicals the casino was using to eliminate the smoke odor. Who knows you probably had allergies to chemicals they used to wipe the machines down with . but this post is about smoking outside ,do you really think someone smoking 20 feet away from you outside is going to cause you harm? Do you ever cook over charcoal ,Do you know what's in charcoal, do you know how much more smoke charcoal produces lets ban cooking over charcoal in the parks to. As far as a backward state I don't know where you are going with that but I would challenge any lawsuit over secondhand smoke because you cannot prove anything.
But why

Berea, WV

#45 Mar 28, 2013
What really gets me is the e-cig ban with it. The arguement being we will allow kids to emulate smoking. I dare say our kids and youth are bombarded with the dangers of tobacco and drugs. They emulate video games, TV,and peers. This is a tobacco ban, and e-cigs contain no tobacco. Just nicotine in a vapor. No smell, no, smoke, no harm. I am a responsible smoker and would like to at least be able to get my nicotine fix in a safe manner for all. Oh btw, ALL tobacco product including chew are banned.

Since: May 13

Fairmont, WV

#46 Mar 28, 2013
Justsayin wrote:
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Name 2 people who have been harmed by second hand smoke and then prove it. It is as much bullshat as global warming but since the almighty government has told you this ,you as a pawn accept it and let the gov take another individual right.Where do you hang your hat that the constitution says I can't smoke and I have to wear my seatbelt. C'mon grow some testies it is not the matter whether you can or cannot smoke it is the point of the continuing path to dictatorship.
Did you read the article in the Delta about the high school girl that almost died from second-hand smoke?
line em up

United States

#47 Mar 28, 2013
All smokers should be executed. Firing squad.
Would solve all the problems.
People could enjoy the parks in peace.
Honestly

Vienna, WV

#48 Mar 28, 2013
line em up wrote:
All smokers should be executed. Firing squad.
Would solve all the problems.
People could enjoy the parks in peace.
Thank you for your input.
Honestly

Vienna, WV

#49 Mar 28, 2013
But why wrote:
What really gets me is the e-cig ban with it. The arguement being we will allow kids to emulate smoking. I dare say our kids and youth are bombarded with the dangers of tobacco and drugs. They emulate video games, TV,and peers. This is a tobacco ban, and e-cigs contain no tobacco. Just nicotine in a vapor. No smell, no, smoke, no harm. I am a responsible smoker and would like to at least be able to get my nicotine fix in a safe manner for all. Oh btw, ALL tobacco product including chew are banned.
The fact that e-cigs are included in this is absurd to me. I wonder if its even accurate. I don't smoke, but e-cigs pose absolutely no threat. Not to mention, e-cig or not, banning smoking outdoors is ridiculous.

Since: Sep 12

Buckhannon, WV

#50 Mar 28, 2013
JustSomeGuy wrote:
If they are gonna do this then they should b made to put in designated smoking areas its not right that the city feels they should be allowed to discriminate against smokers which is exactly what they are doing. Banning ciggerettes in parks isn't gonna make one bit of difference on wether or not a kid is gonna start smoking when they get older its a personal choice and should be left as such.
Sticking your tongue in a blender is a personal choice too but I have the right not to clean up the kitchen when you're done with the blender and I have the right not to have to pick up your cigarette buts. If it's a personal choice then by definition it's not discrimination. Discrimination would be if only black people could smoke in the park or in your case if only stupid people could smoke in the park (something you didn't choose and can't help) Now you'll have a personal choice as to whether or not to go to the park. BWWAAHH!!!
countryboy

Newaygo, MI

#52 Mar 29, 2013
Has anyone else found it disturbing, that not just Buckhannon, but all these places want to ban smoking, yet legalize marijauna?
Honestly

Vienna, WV

#53 Mar 29, 2013
countryboy wrote:
Has anyone else found it disturbing, that not just Buckhannon, but all these places want to ban smoking, yet legalize marijauna?
No, I actually don't find it disturbing. Both should be legal.
Smoke Free Forever

Duluth, GA

#54 Mar 29, 2013
Justsayin wrote:
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Strange 22 years in the service ,I was in the service also ,everyone smoked like freight trains you never experienced any symptoms then simply amazing no symptoms until you got into a casino ,wonder why the people directly smoking were not getting sick maybe just maybe it was the friggin chemicals the casino was using to eliminate the smoke odor. Who knows you probably had allergies to chemicals they used to wipe the machines down with . but this post is about smoking outside ,do you really think someone smoking 20 feet away from you outside is going to cause you harm? Do you ever cook over charcoal ,Do you know what's in charcoal, do you know how much more smoke charcoal produces lets ban cooking over charcoal in the parks to. As far as a backward state I don't know where you are going with that but I would challenge any lawsuit over secondhand smoke because you cannot prove anything.
You have a piss poor EXCUSE for everything. I stated the facts in my case and you TRIED to pick it apart like a true smoking addict. Same as a drug addicted can justify his addiction and will defend it to the very end.

So do you think the chemical products they used to wipe down the machines changed exactly the same time as they went smoke free?

Heck I'd be embarrassed to smoke in public, don't you realize everyone is shaking their heads at you in disgust?
To the council

Elkins, WV

#55 Mar 29, 2013
If you're going to ban smoking that much then I think selling of tobacco products in buchkannon should alse be banned from every store that sells tobacco products. Don't make it so easy to buy . I'm also a smoker . Would that take away alot of revenue from the ones that think they are the higher ups in buckhannon ? Who pays the higher ups ? Better yet lets make upshur county a dry county also . Don't step over the copper heads and kill all the black snakes. Lets hear your thoughts.
No Smoking in Public

Duluth, GA

#56 Mar 29, 2013
To the council wrote:
If you're going to ban smoking that much then I think selling of tobacco products in buchkannon should alse be banned from every store that sells tobacco products. Don't make it so easy to buy . I'm also a smoker . Would that take away alot of revenue from the ones that think they are the higher ups in buckhannon ? Who pays the higher ups ? Better yet lets make upshur county a dry county also . Don't step over the copper heads and kill all the black snakes. Lets hear your thoughts.
Why ban the sale of tobacco products? I don't give a shit if you smoke just do it at home away from others. Remember it's your habit/addiction. Same as alcohol, many cities and states have open container laws in public.
2nd hand drinker

United States

#57 Mar 29, 2013
No Smoking in Public wrote:
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Why ban the sale of tobacco products? I don't give a shit if you smoke just do it at home away from others. Remember it's your habit/addiction. Same as alcohol, many cities and states have open container laws in public.
Yeah your breath knocks me over.
Cost they stink

Winnipeg, Canada

#58 Mar 29, 2013
just saying wrote:
This is bull, just trying to take our rights away, i have been to the parks many times and seen people smoking,If you dont want to be subjected to smoke then stay away from the people that is smoking, the parks are a big area and you dont have set right where somebody is smoking,your talking about your kids being around people that smoke,watch your own kids instead of expecting every body in the park to watch them for you,and they wont be around second hand smoke,havent you taught your kids to stay away from strangers.The smoke is going into the air which isnt going to hurt you. I really dont think second hand smoke is going to affect you unless your in a inclosed area,so get over yourself and leave us smokers alone.
From my experience the smokers come to my space. I've been in line at a sky hill and some M.F. behind me lights up. Or I'm at the ZOO on a bench and some P.O.S comes and stands in front of me etc etc. Sometimes I tolerate though inside I'm steaming, other times I tell them to get the F away from me, which is the proper way to handle it.
Justsayin

Elkview, WV

#59 Mar 29, 2013
Smoke Free Forever wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a piss poor EXCUSE for everything. I stated the facts in my case and you TRIED to pick it apart like a true smoking addict. Same as a drug addicted can justify his addiction and will defend it to the very end.
So do you think the chemical products they used to wipe down the machines changed exactly the same time as they went smoke free?
Heck I'd be embarrassed to smoke in public, don't you realize everyone is shaking their heads at you in disgust?
Well lets see if they banned smoking in the casino there would be no reason to spray a odor control chemical in the air Duh As far as piss poor excuse you really didn't explain why you never experienced any symptoms until the casino? So I still say you have no proof ,sounds to me you might have been trying to win some money from the casino without playing the slots. By the way I am not a smoker but believe in individual rights and cannot stand to have some idiots in congress decide what I can and cannot do .Quit trying to rewrite the constitution and fire up that smokeless grill.
Science Is Proven

Clarksburg, WV

#60 Mar 29, 2013
Smoke Free Forever wrote:
<quoted text>
First, I can name two people that were harmed by second hand smoke. My wife and I. And I will prove it to you. Do you have an open mind? I am a retired veteran with over 22 years of service. My wife and I are in great shape. Fifteen years ago my wife and I started going to one of Delaware’s Casinos about once every other month. They allowed smoking and it was smoke filled. After spending the weekend one of us or both of us would always leave with sinus infections, sore throats, cough, headaches. Sometimes we would have to be on antibiotics for the sinus infections.
Then around 2003 Delaware Casinos went 100% smoke free and guess what? When we left the casino we NEVER had any harmful health effects from the lack of second hand smoke. Coincidence? I think not.
The ones that I really felt sorry for were the employees of the casinos, they had to breathe the second hand smoke for their entire shift all the time. Imagine the long term damage it did to the employees. Many of the casino employees started their careers long before the hazards of second hand smoke were proven without a doubt. Should they have to give up their careers because of YOUR filthy harmful smoking addiction? Absolutely Not! Delaware Casinos are still doing a booming business even after going smoke free over 10 years ago.
If I lived in a backward state that still allowed smoking in my workplace I'd have soooooo many lawsuits it wouldn't be funny. The states know the hazards and did NOTHING to protect ALL the employees of the state. What the hell is wrong with them? Shame on them!
That was inside...not outside....does not matter in this particular situation. Not to mention you chose to be there...so it was in fact your own fault. Not to mention....how many other things may have been inside that building that could have caused the same problems, like granite, formaldehyde, or any number of things.

Since: Mar 13

Meadville, PA

#61 Mar 29, 2013
So the city ordinance makers are also child psychologists who know that a child will be so harmed by seeing someone with an e-cig that the user deserves to be punished--as if the child would otherwise never see someone actually smoking. Then you better also arrest children who exhale steam on cold days for corrupting themselves because it looks like they are smoking.
best

Bridgeport, WV

#63 Mar 29, 2013
THAT WAS THE BEST THING THE CITY EVER DID THEY SHOULD BAN IT IN THE WHOLE CITY
Wizard

Livonia, MI

#64 Mar 29, 2013
Ok

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