Muslim student finds Mormon BYU faith-affirming

Mar 23, 2013 Full story: KSL-TV 65

But the Moroccan citizen didn't enroll to immerse herself in the Mormon faith. She came to BYU-Idaho, which is owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to reaffirm her own religious beliefs.

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Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#1 Mar 23, 2013
Mormons are the American version of muslims. That's why we keep them in Utah....away from polite society.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#2 Mar 24, 2013
The first 9/11 happened in Utah. It's called the Mormon Meadows Massacre. Utah in the 1850's was Afghanistan in America. It wasn't a safe place to live for anyone until the federal troops moved in.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#3 Mar 24, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
The first 9/11 happened in Utah. It's called the Mormon Meadows Massacre. Utah in the 1850's was Afghanistan in America. It wasn't a safe place to live for anyone until the federal troops moved in.
You don't read history much do you. You probably paid as much attention to history in school as you did to Mormonism as a kid. 9/11 came on different dates but a prejudiced religious discriminating bigot as yourself wouldn't know that.
If you would like some more "9/11" massacres as you call them posted committed by mighty white Christian men, you just let me know :)

http://www.chickamauga-cherokee.com/ywahoofal...
Big Tooth Gregory, sanctioned by the United States government, War Department, and Governor of the territory, carried on the ill famous Indian hating battle cry of John Seveir that "nits make lice".
Orders were issued to the Franklinites to split open the belly of any pregnant Cherokee woman, remove the baby inside her, and slice it as well. To the Franklinites, the Cherokee baby inside the mother was the nit that would eventually make lice.
Hiram Big Tooth Gregory and all his Indian fighters raped the women and younger female children of all ages, pillaged, cut bellies open, murdered, and scalped over 100 Chickamaugan Cherokee women and children that had been trapped underneath Ywahoo Falls, killing most of them as they ran, begged, huddled together, and screamed and pleaded for life.

The Sand Creek Massacre
Southern Cheyenne
November 29, 1864
Shortly afterward, Chivington led a force of about 700 men into Fort Lyon, and gave the garrison notice of his plans for an attack on the Indian encampment. Although he was informed that Black Kettle has already surrendered, Chivington pressed on with what he considered the perfect opportunity to further the cause for Indian extinction. On the morning of November 29, he led his troops, many of them drinking heavily, to Sand Creek and positioned them, along with their four howitzers, around the Indian village.
Black Kettle ever trusting raised both an American and a white flag of peace over his tepee. In response, Chivington raised his arm for the attack. Chivington wanted a victory, not prisoners, and so men, women and children were hunted down and shot.
With cannons and rifles pounding them, the Indians scattered in panic. Then the crazed soldiers charged and killed anything that moved. A few warriors managed to fight back to allow some of the tribe to escape across the stream, including Black Kettle.
The colonel was as thourough as he was heartless. An interpreter living in the village testified, "THEY WERE SCALPED, THEIR BRAINS KNOCKED OUT; THE MEN USED THEIR KNIVES, RIPPED OPEN WOMEN, CLUBBED LITTLE CHILDREN, KNOCKED THEM IN THE HEAD WITH THEIR RIFLE BUTTS, BEAT THEIR BRAINS OUT, MUTILATED THEIR BODIES IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD." By the end of the one-sided battle as many as 200 Indians, more than half women and children, had been killed and mutilated.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#5 Mar 24, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
The first 9/11 happened in Utah. It's called the Mormon Meadows Massacre. Utah in the 1850's was Afghanistan in America. It wasn't a safe place to live for anyone until the federal troops moved in.
By the way, as an ignorant person wouldn't know this fact as you prove you don't know it, America's first Afghanistan took place between mighty white Christians and the American Indian they would go to no ends to exterminate for over two centuries. You should really read some actual history, you wouldn't appear so pathetically ignorant with statements like this one... "Utah in the 1850's was Afghanistan in America." That statement just shows the prejudiced, bigoted discrimination you hold for Mormons, just saying.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#6 Mar 27, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way, as an ignorant person wouldn't know this fact as you prove you don't know it, America's first Afghanistan took place between mighty white Christians and the American Indian they would go to no ends to exterminate for over two centuries. You should really read some actual history, you wouldn't appear so pathetically ignorant with statements like this one... "Utah in the 1850's was Afghanistan in America." That statement just shows the prejudiced, bigoted discrimination you hold for Mormons, just saying.
Sorry, but what happened to the Native Americans wasn't religious based, the MMM was.
Hit a nerve with this one, did I? LOL!!!!

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#7 Mar 27, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but what happened to the Native Americans wasn't religious based, the MMM was.
Hit a nerve with this one, did I? LOL!!!!
Wasn't religious based? Are you absolutely pathetically stupid or do you just have a knack for being absolutely pathetically stupid in your replies when your intelligent replays are lacking?
Christians came to this continent you pathetic history dweeb. They came first in the guise of the Spanish with their monks to conquer for God and queen.
England in the name of God and king sent prisoners and serfs to this continent to take take it.
Christians holding the Holy Bible of the all mighty white God wiped out native American Indians from the east coast to the west coast for two centuries because they were savages and expendable.
The only nerve you hit was revealing how pathetic and moronic and stupid you can be at times about historical facts.
White America in the name of politics and the almighty great white God they housed in a black book waged war on Indians for two centuries so they could have the land.
I can't believe how far you go to make such pathetic stupid ignorant replies. Are you stuck on stupid? Is that your problem? Can't find an actual intelligent reply so you post this moronic stupid crap..."Sorry, but what happened to the Native Americans wasn't religious based,.." lolol...why am I not surprised.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#8 Mar 27, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Wasn't religious based? Are you absolutely pathetically stupid or do you just have a knack for being absolutely pathetically stupid in your replies when your intelligent replays are lacking?
Christians came to this continent you pathetic history dweeb. They came first in the guise of the Spanish with their monks to conquer for God and queen.
England in the name of God and king sent prisoners and serfs to this continent to take take it.
Christians holding the Holy Bible of the all mighty white God wiped out native American Indians from the east coast to the west coast for two centuries because they were savages and expendable.
The only nerve you hit was revealing how pathetic and moronic and stupid you can be at times about historical facts.
White America in the name of politics and the almighty great white God they housed in a black book waged war on Indians for two centuries so they could have the land.
I can't believe how far you go to make such pathetic stupid ignorant replies. Are you stuck on stupid? Is that your problem? Can't find an actual intelligent reply so you post this moronic stupid crap..."Sorry, but what happened to the Native Americans wasn't religious based,.." lolol...why am I not surprised.
Pissing your pants isn't going to make you right. Spain and England isn't a religion, they are country that wanted to get wealth. The Mormons at the MMM were doing for the Lord, just like the muslims who flew those planes into the towers.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#9 Mar 27, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
The first 9/11 happened in Utah. It's called the Mormon Meadows Massacre ...
The Mountain Meadows Massacre was led by John D. Lee, supposedly under orders from Mormon leader Brigham Young to kill all "gentile" settler trespassers on mormom land, not unlike the fatwahs by UBL objecting to the presence of infidel US troops in Saudi, site of islam's 2 most "holy" shrines.
Ritch

Salt Lake City, UT

#10 Mar 27, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
Wasn't religious based?
Are you absolutely pathetically stupid or do you just have a knack for being absolutely pathetically stupid in your replies...
Both!

By the way, she blows muslims.
Now if THAT is not a sign of being pathetically stupid, I don't know WHAT is.
Ritch

Salt Lake City, UT

#11 Mar 27, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
Pissing your pants isn't going to make you right.
Neither is your blowing muslims' d-icks.
Stick to the topic bytch.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#12 Mar 27, 2013
Ritch wrote:
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Neither is your blowing muslims' d-icks.
Stick to the topic bytch.
A message from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#13 Mar 27, 2013
Ritch wrote:
<quoted text>
Both!
By the way, she blows muslims.
Now if THAT is not a sign of being pathetically stupid, I don't know WHAT is.
Another message from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#14 Mar 27, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Pissing your pants isn't going to make you right. Spain and England isn't a religion, they are country that wanted to get wealth. The Mormons at the MMM were doing for the Lord, just like the muslims who flew those planes into the towers.
You are so pathetic at times. Why are you like this? Do you like being pathetic? That has to be it.
Spain and England WERE THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS you fricking fool lolol. Ever heard of THE CHURCH OF SPAIN? How about THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND? Ever heard of it? Those two countries governments WERE FOUNDED AND BASED ON THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE.
THEY WERE THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS...UNDERSTAND???
...
Should I repeat that for you in case you are disbelieving ACTUAL HISTORICAL FACTS ESTABLISHED/TAUGHT IN SCHOOL HISTORY BOOKS?
Spain and England WERE THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS you fricking fool lolol. Ever heard of THE CHURCH OF SPAIN? How about THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND? Ever heard of it? Those two countries governments WERE FOUNDED AND BASED ON THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE.
THEY WERE THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS...UNDERSTAND???
Should I repeat that for you in case you are disbelieving ACTUAL HISTORICAL FACTS ESTABLISHED/TAUGHT IN SCHOOL HISTORY BOOKS?
...
That means anything they did when it came to wars and exploration and conquering other people, THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF GOD AND KING/QUEEN.
These two people slaughtered in the name of the Christian God. They raped, pillaged, slaughtered and cut up pregnate women and slicing their bellies tore out the baby and cut it in half. They Christians tortured and massacred all in the name of God for thousands of years. We have explicit recordings of what these fine Christians did to whom they wouldn't even call humans, they called them savages and filth and really weren't worth having a life.
Politics and Christianity created America's first Afghanistan that lasted for 200 years right here.
And you still don't know what happened with the MMM incident. Religion (as the experts agree Mormon and non-Mormon) had little to do with that massacre. All the common things humans experience had a lot to do with it, some of those things you know of: greed, fear, reprisal, revenge, some insanity and twisted thinking, theft, etc.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#15 Mar 27, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
And you still don't know what happened with the MMM incident. Religion (as the experts agree Mormon and non-Mormon) had little to do with that massacre ...
Say what?

If, as Lee claimed before his execution, he was acting on orders from Mormon leader Brigham Young, then it would have been the equivalent of following a fatwa.

BTW, Spain was a monarchy, not a theocracy, and QE II is only the titular head of England's church and state.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#16 Mar 27, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so pathetic at times. Why are you like this? Do you like being pathetic? That has to be it.
Spain and England WERE THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS you fricking fool lolol. Ever heard of THE CHURCH OF SPAIN? How about THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND? Ever heard of it? Those two countries governments WERE FOUNDED AND BASED ON THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE.
THEY WERE THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS...UNDERSTAND???
...
Should I repeat that for you in case you are disbelieving ACTUAL HISTORICAL FACTS ESTABLISHED/TAUGHT IN SCHOOL HISTORY BOOKS?
Spain and England WERE THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS you fricking fool lolol. Ever heard of THE CHURCH OF SPAIN? How about THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND? Ever heard of it? Those two countries governments WERE FOUNDED AND BASED ON THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE.
THEY WERE THEOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS...UNDERSTAND???
Should I repeat that for you in case you are disbelieving ACTUAL HISTORICAL FACTS ESTABLISHED/TAUGHT IN SCHOOL HISTORY BOOKS?
...
That means anything they did when it came to wars and exploration and conquering other people, THEY DID IT IN THE NAME OF GOD AND KING/QUEEN.
These two people slaughtered in the name of the Christian God. They raped, pillaged, slaughtered and cut up pregnate women and slicing their bellies tore out the baby and cut it in half. They Christians tortured and massacred all in the name of God for thousands of years. We have explicit recordings of what these fine Christians did to whom they wouldn't even call humans, they called them savages and filth and really weren't worth having a life.
Politics and Christianity created America's first Afghanistan that lasted for 200 years right here.
And you still don't know what happened with the MMM incident. Religion (as the experts agree Mormon and non-Mormon) had little to do with that massacre. All the common things humans experience had a lot to do with it, some of those things you know of: greed, fear, reprisal, revenge, some insanity and twisted thinking, theft, etc.
You always post like a child when you aren't right, and know it. Pathetic, it really is.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#17 Mar 27, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You always post like a child when you aren't right, and know it. Pathetic, it really is.
lol...and you as usual, make a statement and run like the coward you are so you don't have to answer questions. Pathetic coward. How am I not surprised.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19 Mar 27, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Say what?
If, as Lee claimed before his execution, he was acting on orders from Mormon leader Brigham Young, then it would have been the equivalent of following a fatwa.
BTW, Spain was a monarchy, not a theocracy, and QE II is only the titular head of England's church and state.
That's a point. I suppose you could by your reasoning claim England was also ruled by a monarchy. But the fact remains both Spain and England were theocratic governments. Both monarchy kingdoms allowed theocratic persons to rule with a iron hand. You do remember the Spanish Inquisition?
Of Lee, he didn't actually state he was acting on orders from Young. Lee actually stated when it was all done and said and he returned to Salt Lake City, he saw Young and told him all that happened. Now if Young had planned this out two months earlier with Lee, Lee should have wrote that Young's response to the massacre was something like "Revenge is mine!" or some such statement.
Know what Lee wrote in his diary Young did? Lee said Young didn't know what to think or say and he had to go and pray on the matter to receive guidance from the Lord.
Guidance from the Lord? Why guidance from the Lord? Young supposedly planned the entire massacre two months in advance! He supposedly told Lee and who ever else what to do and when to do it. The Mormon militia had over 6 weeks to plan the massacre near Cedar City and work out all the bugs.
So a couple days before the attack what does the leader of the Mormon militia do? He sends a note to Salt Lake asking Young what they should do, take the cattle or massacre the people or what. That sudden doubt comes from a leader of two dozen or more Mormon men that have supposedly been practising for this massacre for 6 weeks or more with a commandment from Young to massacre the people and take their things.
The day after the massacre Young gets the note from the rider. What does the leader Young state for an answer who two months earlier commanded men to murder these people? Not to harm them. Not to touch them. To let them pass unharmed.
Seems a bit of confusion is taking place that a lot of people don't want to digest so they can do the old blame game instead.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#20 Mar 28, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a point. I suppose you could by your reasoning claim England was also ruled by a monarchy. But the fact remains both Spain and England were theocratic governments. Both monarchy kingdoms allowed theocratic persons to rule with a iron hand. You do remember the Spanish Inquisition?
Of Lee, he didn't actually state he was acting on orders from Young. Lee actually stated when it was all done and said and he returned to Salt Lake City, he saw Young and told him all that happened. Now if Young had planned this out two months earlier with Lee, Lee should have wrote that Young's response to the massacre was something like "Revenge is mine!" or some such statement.
Know what Lee wrote in his diary Young did? Lee said Young didn't know what to think or say and he had to go and pray on the matter to receive guidance from the Lord.
Guidance from the Lord? Why guidance from the Lord? Young supposedly planned the entire massacre two months in advance! He supposedly told Lee and who ever else what to do and when to do it. The Mormon militia had over 6 weeks to plan the massacre near Cedar City and work out all the bugs.
So a couple days before the attack what does the leader of the Mormon militia do? He sends a note to Salt Lake asking Young what they should do, take the cattle or massacre the people or what. That sudden doubt comes from a leader of two dozen or more Mormon men that have supposedly been practising for this massacre for 6 weeks or more with a commandment from Young to massacre the people and take their things.
The day after the massacre Young gets the note from the rider. What does the leader Young state for an answer who two months earlier commanded men to murder these people? Not to harm them. Not to touch them. To let them pass unharmed.
Seems a bit of confusion is taking place that a lot of people don't want to digest so they can do the old blame game instead.
Lee was doing exactly what his priesthood leaders were telling him to do. Priesthood leaders who the church protected from persecution of the law.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#22 Mar 28, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Lee was doing exactly what his priesthood leaders were telling him to do. Priesthood leaders who the church protected from persecution of the law.
The men that pre-planed the murder of Joseph Smith, the cold blooded murder of an unarmed Hyrum Smith and the other unarmed men in the room, the locals protected them from persecution by law. The men bragging of raping Mormon girls were protected by persecution.
What now?
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#23 Mar 28, 2013
Faith wrote:
Mormons are the American version of muslims. That's why we keep them in Utah....away from polite society.
Salaamz Faith & IM LMAO! See! even you can have comedic moments that bring down the House. Im sorry to report that neo-mormons of today couldnt hold their own against ANY Muslim.There are but few muslims that convert to MO-ISM and it usually doesnt last because muslims grill right thru to the basic lie of mormonizm and most mo,s usually bury their head in the churches skirts when confronted with reality and logic.LOL! Please(if you havent) read up on the mountain meadow massacre,you,ll get it for sure! Cheerz

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