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In new U.S. budget talks, Republican proposal has flipped the script

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Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#1 Oct 29, 2013
... "Coming off a bruising standoff that shuttered the government for 16 days and brought the world's largest economy to the brink of default, congressional negotiators hope to reach an agreement that will avoid further disruptions next year."

Looking forward to "avoiding further disruptions"

“My Commander-in-Chi ef!”

Since: Jun 07

Obama got Osama!

#3 Oct 29, 2013
The complete surrender by the tea-bagging GOP to President Obama will reverberate for decades as the right now finds themselves on their knees begging Obama for mercy…

BUT WE WILL GIVE YOU NONE!

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#8 Oct 29, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
... "Coming off a bruising standoff that shuttered the government for 16 days and brought the world's largest economy to the brink of default, congressional negotiators hope to reach an agreement that will avoid further disruptions next year."
Looking forward to "avoiding further disruptions"
Could Oblamer find just one dime to cut from the bloated budget, just one?

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#9 Oct 29, 2013
Clef Hanger wrote:
Obama is struggling to just be considered mediocre at this point.
And he's having a very hard time doing it.
His legacy is toast.
The late night comedians are turning on him. Good, I say.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#12 Oct 30, 2013
So the proposed $10 billion in "savings" would be plowed right back into MORE govt spending?

How is that cutting anything?

No wonder we continue to add a TRILLION in debt every year.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#14 Oct 30, 2013
Responsibility wrote:
... "Coming off a bruising standoff that shuttered the government for 16 days and brought the world's largest economy to the brink of default, congressional negotiators hope to reach an agreement that will avoid further disruptions next year."
Looking forward to "avoiding further disruptions"
The Republicans should demand the Democrats in the Senate publish a spending plan.
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One area of revenue increase the Republicans should do is eliminate the state and local tax deduction on the federal form for ALL tax payers. If the blue states like heavy taxes, fine, just let the blue state tax payers pay for their own goodies.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#15 Oct 30, 2013
The Guy has found $760 Billion over the last 4 years to cut from the bloated Republican Budget left by George Bush.

Have you been paying attention?

What's really amazing is how you Republican complain about taxes but given the numbers turned in by Red States, you make zero contribution to the net worth of America in making contributions to the Dept of Treasury via Income taxes.

you live in taker states that receive more federal largess than you give to the running of the Nation.

If not for liberals in solid democrat states, America would be bankrupt.

Obama and the liberals from Blue States are doing their jobs and making contribution it's the red states represented by Republicans in Congress that are the burdens in America and alway positioned with their hand out receiving.
dont snow me wrote:
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Could Oblamer find just one dime to cut from the bloated budget, just one?

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#16 Oct 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
The Guy has found $760 Billion over the last 4 years to cut from the bloated Republican Budget left by George Bush.
Have you been paying attention?
What's really amazing is how you Republican complain about taxes but given the numbers turned in by Red States, you make zero contribution to the net worth of America in making contributions to the Dept of Treasury via Income taxes.
you live in taker states that receive more federal largess than you give to the running of the Nation.
If not for liberals in solid democrat states, America would be bankrupt.
Obama and the liberals from Blue States are doing their jobs and making contribution it's the red states represented by Republicans in Congress that are the burdens in America and alway positioned with their hand out receiving.
<quoted text>
What has Obama cut?
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#17 Oct 30, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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What has Obama cut?
If Obama inherited the George Bush record deficit of $1.4 Trillion and in 2013 the Deficit is $650 Billion that is a $750 Billion slashing of spending.

Is that difficult to comprehend? That budgets doesn't get slashed without Obama's signature.

The question is better framed as,What has Obama not cut from the Budget to get the deficit down by $750 Billion dollars in 4 years?
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#18 Oct 30, 2013
The Republicans could be more respected if they represented districts and States that actually made some financial contribution to the Finances of America instead of being primarily from Districts and States in America representing leeches who pay no income taxes and have a collective net zero contribution to the coffers.
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
The Republicans should demand the Democrats in the Senate publish a spending plan.
.
One area of revenue increase the Republicans should do is eliminate the state and local tax deduction on the federal form for ALL tax payers. If the blue states like heavy taxes, fine, just let the blue state tax payers pay for their own goodies.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#19 Oct 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
If Obama inherited the George Bush record deficit of $1.4 Trillion and in 2013 the Deficit is $650 Billion that is a $750 Billion slashing of spending.
Is that difficult to comprehend? That budgets doesn't get slashed without Obama's signature.
The question is better framed as,What has Obama not cut from the Budget to get the deficit down by $750 Billion dollars in 4 years?
Once again, what has Obama cut?
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#20 Oct 30, 2013
"Ryan said the two sides could find common ground by making relatively modest changes to Medicare, which is projected to drive deficits in the coming decades as the population ages and medical costs climb"

Close some tax loopholes first.
And go after some of the offshore billions.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#21 Oct 30, 2013
Again, slower this time, in cutting $750 Billion in spending, what has Obama not cut in his 4 years in the White House to erase the Bush $1.4 Trillion Budget Deficit in 2009?

You can't make a case he's not cut anything to shrink spending in those record amounts? Are you honestly paying attention to the debate or just parroting nonsense you hear on the Conservative Stooge Networks?
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, what has Obama cut?

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#23 Oct 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Again, slower this time, in cutting $750 Billion in spending, what has Obama not cut in his 4 years in the White House to erase the Bush $1.4 Trillion Budget Deficit in 2009?
You can't make a case he's not cut anything to shrink spending in those record amounts? Are you honestly paying attention to the debate or just parroting nonsense you hear on the Conservative Stooge Networks?
<quoted text>
Let's take it from the top, one more time.
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What has Obama cut to reduce the deficit?
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Remember, you're not responding to a Democrat. Skip the warm and fuzzies, show me some details.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#24 Oct 30, 2013
If he's cut $750 Billion from the Deficit left in 2009, how much more detail do you need? ROFLMAO
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's take it from the top, one more time.
.
What has Obama cut to reduce the deficit?
.
Remember, you're not responding to a Democrat. Skip the warm and fuzzies, show me some details.
alan

Maringouin, LA

#25 Oct 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
If he's cut $750 Billion from the Deficit left in 2009, how much more detail do you need? ROFLMAO
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if he cut what you say in 2009 so what?explain with all obamas great cuts why the national debt is 17 trillion today?explain why since 2009 the debt has still risen higher under Obama than any other pres?when I say explain I don't mean making excuses for him but just facts!
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#26 Oct 30, 2013
$17 Trillion and the increasing debt is a result of the financial obligations Bush and the Republicans tied around the necks of America with some of their policies, for instance the expansion of the Federal Government in federalizing the Airport Baggage Checkers and Security personnel, this used to be contracted services, or the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the additional 600,000 people to staff that agency, those are recurring cost or those 2 rounds of Tax Cuts, Tax Cuts aren't free. Then there is the two continuing wars one in Afghanistan and the other in Iraq, those were never paid for and there is a cost to end and maintain those operations.

That's just a hand full of financial obligations initiated by George Bush that continues after his departure from the White House that adds to America's debt, or did you think those operations and priorities of the Republicans were free? did you know the Bush Medicare Part D program has a continuing cost that the current congress can not negotiate with the pharmacy industry?

Bush and the Republicans left America in a mess and there are outstanding bills to pay as a result of their recklessness, the recklessness and bills they threaten the other week to default on.
alan wrote:
<quoted text>if he cut what you say in 2009 so what?explain with all obamas great cuts why the national debt is 17 trillion today?explain why since 2009 the debt has still risen higher under Obama than any other pres?when I say explain I don't mean making excuses for him but just facts!

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#27 Oct 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
If he's cut $750 Billion from the Deficit left in 2009, how much more detail do you need? ROFLMAO
<quoted text>
Once again, you demonstrate your keen ability to understand details.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#28 Oct 30, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
$17 Trillion and the increasing debt is a result of the financial obligations Bush and the Republicans tied around the necks of America with some of their policies, for instance the expansion of the Federal Government in federalizing the Airport Baggage Checkers and Security personnel, this used to be contracted services, or the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the additional 600,000 people to staff that agency, those are recurring cost or those 2 rounds of Tax Cuts, Tax Cuts aren't free. Then there is the two continuing wars one in Afghanistan and the other in Iraq, those were never paid for and there is a cost to end and maintain those operations.
That's just a hand full of financial obligations initiated by George Bush that continues after his departure from the White House that adds to America's debt, or did you think those operations and priorities of the Republicans were free? did you know the Bush Medicare Part D program has a continuing cost that the current congress can not negotiate with the pharmacy industry?
Bush and the Republicans left America in a mess and there are outstanding bills to pay as a result of their recklessness, the recklessness and bills they threaten the other week to default on.
<quoted text>
If you are going to copy someone's work, you should at least give credit.
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The cost of the wars are not counted in the federal budget except as an extraordinary expense. This applies both to the Bush and Obama budgets.
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Now, if you bothered to pull your nose out of your left wing news sites, looked at real government accounting you would find 3 things lowered the federal deficit:
1) 2012 Tax law changes which produced one time income to the federal government.
2) Any cost reductions credit can be given to the Budget Control
Act, known as "the sequester".
3) The modest pick up in economic activity helped produced more tax revenue.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#29 Oct 30, 2013
Just the other week Boehner claimed that Obama was responsible for sequester, after all he signed it into law and it was never meant to become the preferred method of spending cuts...... so what's you claim not with regard to sequester?

Copy someone's work, please that was just of the top of my head it did not require much thought....... it's relevant to current debates ongoing in congress how is would someone not be able to list the events right off the top of their head if they have any interest in American Government?

These are the 2012 Tax Law Changes

Federal income tax-bracket thresholds for 2012 have risen for each filing status. For a married couple filing a joint return, the taxable-income threshold separating the 15% bracket from the 25% bracket is $70,700 for this year, up from $69,000 for 2011, according to the Internal Revenue Service.

The standard deduction is up slightly. For singles, the basic deduction amount for this year is $5,950, up from $5,800 last year. For married couples, it's $11,900, up from $11,600 in 2011. There are additional amounts for those who are 65 or over, blind or both.
The amount of each personal and dependent exemption is $3,800 for 2012, up by $100 from $3,700 for 2011.

The maximum amount of the earned income tax credit for low- and moderate-income workers and working families rose to $5,891 for 2012, from $5,751 in 2011. The maximum income limit for the EITC rose to $50,270 from $49,078 in 2011.
The foreign earned income exclusion amount rose to $95,100 from $92,900 for 2011.

The IRS's optional standard mileage rate for using your car for business will remain unchanged at 55.5 cents this year, the same as in the second half of 2011. This also applies to vans, pickups or panel trucks. Drivers have a choice of using this rate or deducting certain actual expenses. But the rate for using your car for medical or moving purposes is down to 23 cents a mile for this year, from 23.5 cents in the second half of 2011. The rate for using your car to help a charity remains unchanged at 14 cents a mile. This rate is set by Congress.

None of these changes hardly as you claim provided a boost of revenue to the Treasury, I don't know how you calculated that but it's BS.

Or you don't know as much about Government and current events as you liked to believe.

These laws did more to put a few extra dollars in the pockets of the lower income earners and some married couples filing joint returns.

None of this had anything to do with cutting spending and reducing the record $1.4 Trillion Dollar deficit to $650 Billion in 2013, do you think people that participate on these forums are stupid to come with that BS?......... ROFLMAO

I would have been much better if you had not said nothing. Now you want to take credit for Sequester.... that's a hoot..... Sequester was the trade off for raising the debt ceiling to pay the debts contracted by the Republicans under George Bush...... like we forgot...... come on man get serious....
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are going to copy someone's work, you should at least give credit.
.
The cost of the wars are not counted in the federal budget except as an extraordinary expense. This applies both to the Bush and Obama budgets.
.
Now, if you bothered to pull your nose out of your left wing news sites, looked at real government accounting you would find 3 things lowered the federal deficit:
1) 2012 Tax law changes which produced one time income to the federal government.
2) Any cost reductions credit can be given to the Budget Control
Act, known as "the sequester".
3) The modest pick up in economic activity helped produced more tax revenue.

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