HIV is a Gay Disease

HIV is a Gay Disease

There are 291 comments on the La Imc story from Oct 2, 2006, titled HIV is a Gay Disease. In it, La Imc reports that:

These are preliminary thoughts about the ad campaign: First off, I am very active in the LA HIV/social services community and heard no discussion of the campaign prior to it's being released into the community.

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Amanda

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Oct 10, 2006
Has anyone seen these billboard in the community? I am a grad student and would like to examine the controversy surrounding these ads for a journalism project and have yet to see any around the community.

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TampaBob

Tampa, FL

#3 Oct 10, 2006
Here is a link to the actual site listed in the campaign! I AM APPALED they did this to the gay community!

http://www.ownitendit.org/
Punk Rampant

AOL

#5 Oct 10, 2006
Jim wrote:
From the link, it appears that it is in fact a homosexual campaign to help promote the truth:
"Though anyone is susceptible to HIV infection, the fact is that three out of four people living with HIV/AIDS in Los Angeles County are gay and bisexual men, increasingly Latino and Black men. Even though gay and bisexual men comprise less than 7% of the population of L.A. County, we account for more than 75% of those who are infected."
Fighting HIV/AIDS depends upon this type of accurate information. Lies are killing people.
You need to find yourself a good man.
Inquisitarian

Ann Arbor, MI

#6 Oct 10, 2006
The lies are that it's exclusively a homosexual disease, that it originated with us, that all gay men are doomed to become infected and die from it, and that it's therefore not worth doing someting about.

Nationwide, the majority of new infections were in groups other that men having sex with men as of 2004 (the latest CDC data to be released)

Los Angeles is Los Angeles. It isn't necessarily representative of what's happening everywhere else in the country.

The idiots that designed this campaign are not deserving of any respect from the greater gay community for their misguided effort. They are setting us back 20 years by reinforcing people's wrong-headed ideas about gay people and about HIV/AIDS.

That said, there is still very much a problem with HIV/AIDS in the gay community. One that needs to be dealt with using honesty, ingenuity, and compassion.

This campaign, despite its good intentions, will end up having the opposite effect. By stigmatizing gay people once again through an association with HIV/AIDS, they will be encouraging people to lie about their orientation, and will merely inflame the hatred of bigots and bolster their campaigns of misinformation about gay folk.

With friends like these, who needs enemies?
TampaBob

Tampa, FL

#8 Oct 10, 2006
Jim wrote:
From the link, it appears that it is in fact a homosexual campaign to help promote the truth:
"Though anyone is susceptible to HIV infection, the fact is that three out of four people living with HIV/AIDS in Los Angeles County are gay and bisexual men, increasingly Latino and Black men. Even though gay and bisexual men comprise less than 7% of the population of L.A. County, we account for more than 75% of those who are infected."
Fighting HIV/AIDS depends upon this type of accurate information. Lies are killing people.
You mean the lies that so many so-called "str8" men are telling themselves and their partners by masquarding as heterosexual while, in fact, are having unprotected sex with other men?

Check out the thread on TOPIX about the survey results just posted in NYC.

Those men do NOT identify as either BI or GAY and therefor are NOT going to look at this ad campaign and get the message.

WHy? Because they don't belive they are GAY or BI and so, if HIV is a GAY disease, then they have nothing to worry about.

Remember this fact also: At the end of 2003, an estimated 1,039,000 to 1,185,000 persons in the United States were living with HIV/AIDS, with 24-27% undiagnosed and unaware of their HIV infection.1

That means nearly 250,000 Americans are infected with HIV and don't even know it.

I do NOT belive a campaign that states HIV IS A GAY DISEASE will reach those 250,000 - if anything it will predispose them NOT to get tested since they don't identify as being BI or gay.
Rob in AZ

Santa Clara, CA

#10 Oct 10, 2006
Jim wrote:
The billboards were in fact not directed to a national audience, but to an audience in the LA Area. Attitudes like yours, Inq, are KILLING young homosexuals who are contracting HIV/AIDS at alarming rates, again according to CDC data.
HIV/AIDS remains a majority male homosexual disease in America, despite the fact that male homosexuals make up only about 1.6% of the total population.
THAT is hardly something to ignore or lie about. Lives are at stake.
So why do you keep on lying - murderer?
Punk Rampant

AOL

#12 Oct 11, 2006
Jim wrote:
Thank you for once again displaying the illogic, hate, and fanaticism at the base of your cause.
You're calling the pot calling the kettle lavender, Jim. Get over yourself. Your attempts at turning your hatefulness around on the other guy is pathetic. Your closet is in need of exiting.
TampaBob

Tampa, FL

#13 Oct 11, 2006
Jim wrote:
The billboards were in fact not directed to a national audience, but to an audience in the LA Area. Attitudes like yours, Inq, are KILLING young homosexuals who are contracting HIV/AIDS at alarming rates, again according to CDC data.
HIV/AIDS remains a majority male homosexual disease in America, despite the fact that male homosexuals make up only about 1.6% of the total population.
THAT is hardly something to ignore or lie about. Lives are at stake.
The billboards and entire campaign were run in the single LARGEST MARKET IN THE USA! They were not posted on a street in happyville, nebraska - they were posted in L.A.! The single biggest media market in the US.

Such message have and will resonate outside the market and ANY REASONABLE or EXPERIENCED marketing/ad agency KNOWS that fact.

The issue of raising awarness and education about safer sex practices both in and outside the gay community is NOT the issue. The issue is that homophobes like yourself latch on to the headline: HIV IS A GAY DISEASE and use it to hurt, bash, marginlize and dehumanize a community that has worked FAR harder and education ALL citizens about HIV and safer sex.

ANd, in the context of the larger issue (sorry, it's not just about the L.A. market again) the VAST majority of those infected with HIV world wide are NOT homosexual - they are HETEROSEXUAL.

Oh, and by the way, the fastest growing population of those infected in the US right now are BLACK MEN under the age of 30!

Gee, i wonder what would happen if the headline was: HIV IS A BLACK DISEASE!
TarraDuff

Chicago, IL

#14 Oct 11, 2006
The article does raise a very interesting and important point. A very large Africian and Latino men are being diagnose with HIV because they don't consider themselves to be gay. The culture currently in the US plus the way both communittes view homosexuals force these men to deny what they are gay or bisexuals.

They in turn infect their wives,girlfriends as well as the men they hook up with.

The thing is the largest infection rates for HIV and AIDS is in both the Latino and Africian americans communittes.

The next group to be infect are those between the ages of hetrosexual 17-25 years women. Many of whom don't use protection (condoms) because they figured that AIDS/HIV is a gay desease. Since they are not gay they can't get it.

AIDS/HIV is still around because people think it is a gay disease, but diseases attack people it does not care if the person is straight or gay, black or white, or young or old. It attacks whoever it can come in contact with.
Rob in AZ

Santa Clara, CA

#15 Oct 11, 2006
TarraDuff wrote:
The article does raise a very interesting and important point. A very large Africian and Latino men are being diagnose with HIV because they don't consider themselves to be gay. The culture currently in the US plus the way both communittes view homosexuals force these men to deny what they are gay or bisexuals.
They in turn infect their wives,girlfriends as well as the men they hook up with.
The thing is the largest infection rates for HIV and AIDS is in both the Latino and Africian americans communittes.
The next group to be infect are those between the ages of hetrosexual 17-25 years women. Many of whom don't use protection (condoms) because they figured that AIDS/HIV is a gay desease. Since they are not gay they can't get it.
AIDS/HIV is still around because people think it is a gay disease, but diseases attack people it does not care if the person is straight or gay, black or white, or young or old. It attacks whoever it can come in contact with.
Thanks Tara!
Very concise and complete summary for why it is so important to overcome stereotypes and actually work an the problem.
Rob in AZ

Santa Clara, CA

#17 Oct 11, 2006
Jim wrote:
A barrage of misinformation from radical homosexual hate groups trying to conceal CDC data is in fact placing young homosexuals at risk of infection and death!
Your paranoia is certainly dangerous and your misinformation is killing innocent people as we speak.

Where were you when help to prevent HIV from becoming an epidemic could was really needed th emost 25 years ago?

To have the gay community shoulder most of the burden and then come 20+ years later and blame them for the lack of success is most disgusting.
TampaBob

Tampa, FL

#18 Oct 11, 2006
Um...you seem to enjoy twisting both the FACTS and your very own statements.

1) The CDC (Center for disease control) does NOT list "homosexual" as a group in any of its reports. Rather, it identifies men who have sex with men (MSM) as the means by which transmission occurs. Given the fact that a recent study in NYC reported that 10% of men who identified as STRAIGHT, also admitted to having sex with a man in the past 12 months. THese men do NOT identify as gay, but did engage in MSM.

So, you might want to reference the CDC reports. Here's the link in case you need the FACTS: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/re...

Regarding your statment that, "Male homosexuals have the highest infection rate of any group in America, not Latinos or African Americans" - again, if you read the link i supplied, you'll see that the CDC does categorize the ethincity of those diagnosed with HIV. And again, they do NOT ask about a person's sexual orientation - just the means by which they may have contracted the disesase.

In fact, its the statment that HIV is a GAY disese that will cause those very groups experiencing the highest rates of infectin to CONTINUE to think that they are safe because they are not "GAY" they are just having sex with men.
TarraDuff

Chicago, IL

#19 Oct 12, 2006
Jim wrote:
Tarra, you have passed on some mis-information that indeed could be deadly to young homosexuals.
HIV/AIDS remains a majority homosexual disease in America. Male homosexuals have the highest infection rate of any group in America, not Latinos or African Americans. Despite their relatively small population, young homosexuals remain one of the very largest categories of new infection.
A barrage of misinformation from radical homosexual hate groups trying to conceal CDC data is in fact placing young homosexuals at risk of infection and death!
Hate to break it to you but young hetrosexuals africian and latino women are being infected at the same rate as the men.

Why because those men in those two homophoic cultures do not view themselves as gay. They keep their condition a sceret because AID/HIV is viewed as a gay disease and continued to infect these young women. Many having no idea that the man that they are in a relationship or had sex with is HIV positive. This in turn means that they are the unreported victims of this terrible disease.

How do I know because I known a few women who got it that way. Even after confronting the men with the facts they are told its because they are sluts or that they didn't get it from them because they are not gay.

Denial is a terrible thing.

My friends, who are in college and should know better, put their health at risk because they don't use condoms. They believe that birth control is all they need. That AIDS/HIV is a gay disease, how dumb is that?

To label this horrific disease as a "Gay" disease is putting all of our lives at risk.

When you sleep with someone it means that you sleep with every person that person slept with, etc, etc.
Rob in AZ

Santa Clara, CA

#21 Oct 12, 2006
Jim wrote:
You really should view actual statistics at www.cdc.gov , confirming that HIV/AIDS in America remains a majority male homosexual disease, despite the fact that they comprise only about 1.6% of the population.
The misinformation you post endangers the lives of homosexuals.
Goebbels
just visiting

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Oct 12, 2006
So should we base diseases soley upon the US CDC "statistics"? That would mean that there is no such thing as the bird flu, since we have no cases here in the us wouldn't it?
Is this a true statement? No. Is HIV/AIDS a homosexual disease? No, worldwide statistics say it is primarily heterosexual disease. The CDC is not a good gage of anything other than the political climate here in the US. They consistantly disregard scientific facts, and science in general due to the political hacks who are currently in charge.
Thanks for the "statistics" though. You just keep your head buried in the sand, it seems to be working quite well for you.
Jim wrote:
In fact, according to official CDC statistics, HIV/AIDS remains a majority homosexual disease in America.
The billboards may help to refute the barrage of radical homosexual misinformation to the contrary. This misinformation is killing people. Young homosexuals remain one of the very largest categoris of new infection, again according to www.cdc.gov
My 2 cents

United States

#23 Oct 12, 2006
I think the real issue that needs to be addressed is that education about prevention should be stressed SO MUCH MORE. When you get right down to "brass tacks, " it doesn't matter who slept with whom, how many times, or where. It doesn't matter if gay, hetero, bi, or "try." It is none of my business what makes a person happy in their own home. Swing from the rafters, break out the whip cream, whatever. But it is, without a doubt, a HUMAN issue, first and foremost. Whatever your sexual preference, USE PROTECTION. I feel for the gal who said her friends were using birth control and thought that was enough. Safe sex is not an issue of preventing births anymore as much as it is an issue of preventing deaths.
TampaBob

Tampa, FL

#24 Oct 12, 2006
Jim wrote:
You really should view actual statistics at www.cdc.gov , confirming that HIV/AIDS in America remains a majority male homosexual disease, despite the fact that they comprise only about 1.6% of the population.
The misinformation you post endangers the lives of homosexuals.
PLEASE provide a link to a page on the CDC site that specifically calls HIV/AIDS a primarily HOMOSEXUAL disease.

Here are the two primary links on the CDC site regarding HIV/AIDS statistics in the US:
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/ba...

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/aids-hiv.htm

In EACH page and throughout the CDC site, the organization does NOT and HAS not USED THE WORD HOMOSEXUAL in referencing any hiv/aids statistics.

YOU are the one misleading people. HAVE YOU NO SHAME?
Rob in AZ

Santa Clara, CA

#25 Oct 12, 2006
My 2 cents wrote:
I think the real issue that needs to be addressed is that education about prevention should be stressed SO MUCH MORE. When you get right down to "brass tacks, " it doesn't matter who slept with whom, how many times, or where. It doesn't matter if gay, hetero, bi, or "try." It is none of my business what makes a person happy in their own home. Swing from the rafters, break out the whip cream, whatever. But it is, without a doubt, a HUMAN issue, first and foremost. Whatever your sexual preference, USE PROTECTION. I feel for the gal who said her friends were using birth control and thought that was enough. Safe sex is not an issue of preventing births anymore as much as it is an issue of preventing deaths.
Thanks - what you just said is the absolutely most important point to this discussion
Bill

United States

#26 Oct 12, 2006
There is truly some dangerous ignorance in trying to conceal the documented fact that "men having sex with men" are linked to a majority of HIV/AIDS cases in the USA, despite the fact that the are only about 1.6% of the total population.

More money has been spent on this disease on a per capita than any other disease in American History, despite the fact that nearly all cases are linked to the choice of high risk behavior.

It's time that homosexuals stopped supporting anti-democratic efforts to force nonsense philosophies like homosexual "marriage" on others, and started spending that money and effort on saving the lives of their own. While they waste money on trying to undemocratically force their philosophies on others, young homosexuals remain one of the very largest categories of new infection.
Rob in AZ

Santa Clara, CA

#27 Oct 12, 2006
Bill wrote:
There is truly some dangerous ignorance in trying to conceal the documented fact that "men having sex with men" are linked to a majority of HIV/AIDS cases in the USA, despite the fact that the are only about 1.6% of the total population.
More money has been spent on this disease on a per capita than any other disease in American History, despite the fact that nearly all cases are linked to the choice of high risk behavior.
It's time that homosexuals stopped supporting anti-democratic efforts to force nonsense philosophies like homosexual "marriage" on others, and started spending that money and effort on saving the lives of their own. While they waste money on trying to undemocratically force their philosophies on others, young homosexuals remain one of the very largest categories of new infection.
Thanks Goebbels,

do you want some links to organizations that you can donate money to (most of them 501(c)3 organizations thus your tax donation will be tax dedctable.

It sure it time that you finally start helping in the fight against HIV/Aids that we gyas have been actively engaged in for decades.

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