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Ohio Supreme Court Rules Smoking Ban Constitutional

There are 1191 comments on the Cincinnati CityBeat story from May 23, 2012, titled Ohio Supreme Court Rules Smoking Ban Constitutional. In it, Cincinnati CityBeat reports that:

Since 2006, the Ohio Smoke-Free Workplace Act has banned indoor smoking at public establishments and places of employment, making Ohio the first Midwestern state to enact a state-wide ban.

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pops

United States

#1065 Aug 18, 2012
re-read post #1044.
pops

United States

#1066 Aug 18, 2012
I should add that you should re-read post #1054. Then google or Wiki "Martin Niemoller" dob 1892 dod 1984. OR search "first they came for..."
But FIRST, take off your blinders & open your mind. If that info doesn't help, there is no hope for you.
There are many things that are opinions & many things that are facts. Example; All poodles are dogs but ALL dogs are not poodles. That's a fact. Just as the "1st they came for..." publication. IT'S a FACT!!
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#1067 Aug 19, 2012
Kyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Pops you should realize by now Frisbee isn't very smart.
Cookies and brownies ban starting this week.
http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2012/0508...
"Our kids don’t play outside as much as we did, they can’t go trick-or-treating without us dressing up and tagging along, and we’ve orchestrated their every waking moment so that they’re never alone or off-task," Katherine Ozment wrote on Boston Magazine's Boston Daily site. "Couldn’t we let them have the simple pleasure of selecting a sweet, homemade morsel at a school bake sale a couple times a year, then savoring each bite – as they may one day wish we’d let them savor childhood?"

Really?

I guess maybe what they are saying is that the law should only limit each student to a single morsel per event and no more than two in a given year. That's what they are advocating?

It doesn't say, as far as I could tell, whether the law applies to schools that do NOT take/receive government support. I wonder whether this will result in more bake sales being held out in front of Wall-mart stores or at malls? Do those working bake sales have to have food service permits/licenses/whatever? Hmmm...
Kyboy

Louisville, KY

#1068 Aug 19, 2012
Hugh Jass wrote:
<quoted text>"Our kids don’t play outside as much as we did, they can’t go trick-or-treating without us dressing up and tagging along, and we’ve orchestrated their every waking moment so that they’re never alone or off-task," Katherine Ozment wrote on Boston Magazine's Boston Daily site. "Couldn’t we let them have the simple pleasure of selecting a sweet, homemade morsel at a school bake sale a couple times a year, then savoring each bite – as they may one day wish we’d let them savor childhood?"

Really?

I guess maybe what they are saying is that the law should only limit each student to a single morsel per event and no more than two in a given year. That's what they are advocating?

It doesn't say, as far as I could tell, whether the law applies to schools that do NOT take/receive government support. I wonder whether this will result in more bake sales being held out in front of Wall-mart stores or at malls? Do those working bake sales have to have food service permits/licenses/whatever? Hmmm...

It looks like they do need permits in some areas now including their front yards. I guess the government must be giving them some kind of support. Hmmm....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/...
Kyboy

Louisville, KY

#1069 Aug 19, 2012
Hugh Jass wrote:
<quoted text>"Our kids don’t play outside as much as we did, they can’t go trick-or-treating without us dressing up and tagging along, and we’ve orchestrated their every waking moment so that they’re never alone or off-task," Katherine Ozment wrote on Boston Magazine's Boston Daily site. "Couldn’t we let them have the simple pleasure of selecting a sweet, homemade morsel at a school bake sale a couple times a year, then savoring each bite – as they may one day wish we’d let them savor childhood?"

Really?

I guess maybe what they are saying is that the law should only limit each student to a single morsel per event and no more than two in a given year. That's what they are advocating?

It doesn't say, as far as I could tell, whether the law applies to schools that do NOT take/receive government support. I wonder whether this will result in more bake sales being held out in front of Wall-mart stores or at malls? Do those working bake sales have to have food service permits/licenses/whatever? Hmmm...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/m-lemo...
Kyboy

Louisville, KY

#1070 Aug 19, 2012
Hugh Jass wrote:
<quoted text>"Our kids don’t play outside as much as we did, they can’t go trick-or-treating without us dressing up and tagging along, and we’ve orchestrated their every waking moment so that they’re never alone or off-task," Katherine Ozment wrote on Boston Magazine's Boston Daily site. "Couldn’t we let them have the simple pleasure of selecting a sweet, homemade morsel at a school bake sale a couple times a year, then savoring each bite – as they may one day wish we’d let them savor childhood?"

Really?

I guess maybe what they are saying is that the law should only limit each student to a single morsel per event and no more than two in a given year. That's what they are advocating?

It doesn't say, as far as I could tell, whether the law applies to schools that do NOT take/receive government support. I wonder whether this will result in more bake sales being held out in front of Wall-mart stores or at malls? Do those working bake sales have to have food service permits/licenses/whatever? Hmmm...
Despotic government in action.

Looks like freedom is being taking away all across the country unless your wiling to pay the government money.

http://www.mofreedom.org/2011/07/the-governme...
Kyboy

Louisville, KY

#1071 Aug 19, 2012
Hugh Jass wrote:
<quoted text>"Our kids don’t play outside as much as we did, they can’t go trick-or-treating without us dressing up and tagging along, and we’ve orchestrated their every waking moment so that they’re never alone or off-task," Katherine Ozment wrote on Boston Magazine's Boston Daily site. "Couldn’t we let them have the simple pleasure of selecting a sweet, homemade morsel at a school bake sale a couple times a year, then savoring each bite – as they may one day wish we’d let them savor childhood?"

Really?

I guess maybe what they are saying is that the law should only limit each student to a single morsel per event and no more than two in a given year. That's what they are advocating?

It doesn't say, as far as I could tell, whether the law applies to schools that do NOT take/receive government support. I wonder whether this will result in more bake sales being held out in front of Wall-mart stores or at malls? Do those working bake sales have to have food service permits/licenses/whatever? Hmmm...
Even girl scout cookies be banned.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2011/03/24/hazelw...
Kyboy

Louisville, KY

#1072 Aug 19, 2012
Hugh Jass wrote:
<quoted text>"Our kids don’t play outside as much as we did, they can’t go trick-or-treating without us dressing up and tagging along, and we’ve orchestrated their every waking moment so that they’re never alone or off-task," Katherine Ozment wrote on Boston Magazine's Boston Daily site. "Couldn’t we let them have the simple pleasure of selecting a sweet, homemade morsel at a school bake sale a couple times a year, then savoring each bite – as they may one day wish we’d let them savor childhood?"

Really?

I guess maybe what they are saying is that the law should only limit each student to a single morsel per event and no more than two in a given year. That's what they are advocating?

It doesn't say, as far as I could tell, whether the law applies to schools that do NOT take/receive government support. I wonder whether this will result in more bake sales being held out in front of Wall-mart stores or at malls? Do those working bake sales have to have food service permits/licenses/whatever? Hmmm...
Looks like you can give poor kids food at your own house.

http://m.nbcphiladelphia.com/nbcphilly/pm_108...

As I said before, Frisbee has no idea what freedom really is all about.
pops

United States

#1073 Aug 19, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
<quoted text>What freedom have you lost? Name the freedom you have lost.
Poisoning people is a freedom?
Poisoning people?? YOU are the one that mentioned bug bombs, drain cleaners, bleach etc.
By the way, IF you check out...'1st they came for...' when it mentions communists, jews, or whatever, substitute smoking bans, sugar bans, chocolate bans etc. Then it may make more sense as to why I brought it up.
Frisbee

Seattle, WA

#1074 Aug 21, 2012
pops wrote:
I should add that you should re-read post #1054.
That post has been removed by the Moderator. That's a red flag that it was worthless.
pops wrote:
re-read post #1044.
That post has a lot of jibberish, but doesn't name the Freedom you claim to have lost.

NAME THE FREEDOM YOU HAVE LOST TO SMOKING BANS.

That's what y'all are always crying has happened. NAME IT. It's a very simple thing to do if you're not full of shit.
pops wrote:
By the way, IF you check out...'1st they came for...' when it mentions communists, jews, or whatever, substitute smoking bans, sugar bans, chocolate bans etc. Then it may make more sense as to why I brought it up.
By the way, if you check out Logical Fallacies, you will see that the 'slippery slope' trope is invalid and only appeals to the weakest of minds. Here's the part where I back my statements up with LINKS to FACTS, something you can never seem to be able to do....because all you do is talk shit.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slip...
http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#A...
Kyboy

United States

#1075 Aug 21, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
<quoted text>That post has been removed by the Moderator. That's a red flag that it was worthless.

pops wrote, "re-read post #1044."

That post has a lot of jibberish, but doesn't name the Freedom you claim to have lost.

NAME THE FREEDOM YOU HAVE LOST TO SMOKING BANS.

That's what y'all are always crying has happened. NAME IT. It's a very simple thing to do if you're not full of shit.

pops wrote, "
By the way, IF you check out...'1st they came for...' when it mentions communists, jews, or whatever, substitute smoking bans, sugar bans, chocolate bans etc. Then it may make more sense as to why I brought it up."

By the way, if you check out Logical Fallacies, you will see that the 'slippery slope' trope is invalid and only appeals to the weakest of minds. Here's the part where I back my statements up with LINKS to FACTS, something you can never seem to be able to do....because all you do is talk shit.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slip...
http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#A...
Poor poor Frisbee your'll never see the big picture or understand what freedom really is.

Bet you would coming running into that fox hole I was smoking in when it would save your life under enemy fire.

Keep being proud of banning the girl scouts from selling cookies or a 5/7 year old from sellng lemonade to neighbors. Keep being proud of banning people from feeding the hungry. Keep following the Socailist agenda until there is no freedom left for you.
Frisbee

Seattle, WA

#1076 Aug 21, 2012
What freedom have you lost, KyBoy?

Simple question.

Interesting that you can't answer it.
That should tell you something.
pops

United States

#1077 Aug 21, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
<quoted text> That post has been removed by the Moderator. That's a red flag that it was worthless.
<quoted text>That post has a lot of jibberish, but doesn't name the Freedom you claim to have lost.
NAME THE FREEDOM YOU HAVE LOST TO SMOKING BANS.
That's what y'all are always crying has happened. NAME IT. It's a very simple thing to do if you're not full of shit.
<quoted text>By the way, if you check out Logical Fallacies, you will see that the 'slippery slope' trope is invalid and only appeals to the weakest of minds. Here's the part where I back my statements up with LINKS to FACTS, something you can never seem to be able to do....because all you do is talk shit.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slip...
http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope#A...
I checked out the links that you have posted. The problem that I see is that they use the word "WILL". NO ONE here has claimed to have a crystal ball, but some of us go with the evidence of HISTORY !! THOUSANDS of years of history which is obviously a class subject that you failed or did poorly in.
As far as post #1054 being deleted as being "worthless' as you put it. Post are NEVER deleted for being 'worthless' or most of your posts would be gone. I see it as another biased liberal/progressive example of their censorship. The 'TRUTH HURTS' sort of thing that does NOT serve a certain agenda.
TOPIX does NOT delete something for being 'worthless' or at least I would hope so. It's a 1st amendment sort of issue.
So you can take that excuse of yours & pound it in the sand.
IF YOU can't comprehend any better than you exhibit, there's nothing that can be done for you. And that is very sad.
pops

United States

#1078 Aug 21, 2012
Oh by the way Frisbee, I am very very happy that I am not as closed minded & ignorant as YOU. I do NOT wear blinders...So happy.
Need A Light

Kitchener, Canada

#1079 Aug 21, 2012
pops wrote:
Oh by the way Frisbee, I am very very happy that I am not as closed minded & ignorant as YOU. I do NOT wear blinders...So happy.
Frisbee has the right to be closed minded & ignorant(dumb)or no manners his choice. It is your right Pops to take off the blinders and see him for what he is, banned from your mind and makes you happy. You are a success story welcome to the CLUB !
Frisbee

Seattle, WA

#1081 Aug 21, 2012
Kyboy wrote:
Poor poor Frisbee your'll never see the big picture or understand what freedom really is.
Show us how much you understand and tell us what freedom you've lost......Easy question, still no answer from you chumps.
pops wrote:
Oh by the way Frisbee, I am very very happy that I am not as closed minded & ignorant as YOU.
Name the freedom that you have lost and prove you're not ignorant.
Need A Light wrote:
Frisbee has the right to be closed minded & ignorant(dumb)or no manners his choice. It is your right Pops to take off the blinders and see him for what he is, banned from your mind and makes you happy. You are a success story welcome to the CLUB !
?????Off the meds again, eh?
Kyboy

Louisville, KY

#1082 Aug 22, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
What freedom have you lost, KyBoy?

Simple question.

Interesting that you can't answer it.
That should tell you something.
The freedom of living under less government intrusions. The freedom to keep what I worked for. The freedom to use my personal property as I choose.

By the way we all have seen you avoiding the other bans that I pointed out. You can't defend them are justify
them being in place.
pops

United States

#1083 Aug 22, 2012
Kyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
The freedom of living under less government intrusions. The freedom to keep what I worked for. The freedom to use my personal property as I choose.
By the way we all have seen you avoiding the other bans that I pointed out. You can't defend them are justify
them being in place.
Frisbee will NEVER understand because Frisbee is about as smart as a frisbee. ALL inert material/no brains.
Need A Light

Kitchener, Canada

#1084 Aug 22, 2012
Frisbee wrote:
What freedom have you lost, KyBoy?
Simple question.
Interesting that you can't answer it.
That should tell you something.
Frisbee you might not notice it but you have lost the freedom of expression no one understands you .... is it that tough to take ?
Interesting that you do not know it does that tell you something ?
Frisbee

Seattle, WA

#1085 Aug 22, 2012
Kyboy wrote:
The freedom of living under less government intrusions.
Please provide a link to the guarantee from government that government won't intrude. I'll take your inability to do so as an admission that you're a fucking idiot.
Kyboy wrote:
The freedom to keep what I worked for.
Please explain to us how a smoking ban has robbed you of the ability to keep what you've worked for. I'll take your inability to answer as an admission that you're a fucking idiot.
Kyboy wrote:
The freedom to use my personal property as I choose.
Given the fact that you can SMOKE ALL YOU PLEASE ON YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY and that smoking bans only apply to the PUBLIC PROPERTY OF BUSINESSES WHO HAVE BEEN GRANTED A LICENSE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC BY THE GOVERNMENT... Please enlighten us as to how a smoking ban limits you right to use your personal property as you choose.
I'll take your inability to answer as an admission that you're a fucking idiot.
Kyboy wrote:
By the way we all have seen you avoiding the other bans that I pointed out. You can't defend them are justify
them being in place.
It is a testimony to your ignorance to assume I support a ban from the Nowheresville city council on cupcakes? I don't. You'll notice that such bans get squashed because citizens who aren't pussies stand up and fight them instead of crying on the internet like little bitches. Bans that actually have the support of the people become a nationwide movement. Sorry that you're on the losing side of that one. Feel free to alarm us when there's a state/nationwide ban on cupcakes or soda......dipshit.

This is where you assert your 'slippery-slope" logical fallacy trope as if it appeals to any but the weakest of minds:

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