Autism genes are surprisingly large, ...

Autism genes are surprisingly large, study finds

There are 77 comments on the Science Blog story from Sep 20, 2013, titled Autism genes are surprisingly large, study finds. In it, Science Blog reports that:

Enzymes called topoisomerases are crucial for the expression of extremely long genes in neurons, according to a study published 5 September in Nature 1 .

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IT FIGURES

Winnipeg, Canada

#31 Nov 19, 2013
Duchess1959 wrote:
Science knows there is no one reason Autism is on the rise. Science also knows that 90% of those diagnosed with Autism have no underlying medical condition responsible for the symptoms. I am more inclined to believe that the common cause in this era is environmental versus genetic. The vaccine theory is valid but certainly not proof. Therefore from the ethical point of view I think not vaccinating is more threatening to society.
The current rate is appox. 1 in 150. That's extremely high.
The current rate is 1 in 50 based on the CDC. That's nationally. Some states are 1 in 27. So explained why the autism epidemic is worldwide and what possible mechanism has caused a worldwide phenomenon? Try and find one better than vaccines.

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#32 Nov 20, 2013
IT FIGURES wrote:
<quoted text> The current rate is 1 in 50 based on the CDC. That's nationally. Some states are 1 in 27. So explained why the autism epidemic is worldwide and what possible mechanism has caused a worldwide phenomenon? Try and find one better than vaccines.
The numbers do not reflect that there is a real increase in the number of cases. The numbers reflect that autism is being diagnosed more often. There is no epidemic according to the CDC and there is no link to vaccines/autism according to the CDC. The CDC doesn't say it's a "phenomenon" either.
CDC LIES

Winnipeg, Canada

#34 Nov 21, 2013
Duchess1959 wrote:
<quoted text>The numbers do not reflect that there is a real increase in the number of cases. The numbers reflect that autism is being diagnosed more often. There is no epidemic according to the CDC and there is no link to vaccines/autism according to the CDC. The CDC doesn't say it's a "phenomenon" either.
cause they lie. They make and push vaccines, what else would they say? Regardless its a worldwide phenomenon. Britain 1 in 63, North Korea 1 in 38 children. Does that sound normal? 1 in 38 children with autism? And its getting worse.

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#35 Nov 21, 2013
CDC LIES wrote:
<quoted text> cause they lie. They make and push vaccines, what else would they say? Regardless its a worldwide phenomenon. Britain 1 in 63, North Korea 1 in 38 children. Does that sound normal? 1 in 38 children with autism? And its getting worse.
Well if the CDC lies why are you citing the CDC as a source of your information?
It is Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#36 Nov 22, 2013
Duchess1959 wrote:
<quoted text>Well if the CDC lies why are you citing the CDC as a source of your information?
I explained why in a previous post.

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#37 Nov 22, 2013
It is Autism wrote:
<quoted text> I explained why in a previous post.
Well no offense to you, but I think I'll move on. Any one who would cite data from a source and then allege that same source lies, just something very puzzling about that.
DUH MOMENT

Winnipeg, Canada

#38 Nov 22, 2013
Duchess1959 wrote:
<quoted text>Well no offense to you, but I think I'll move on. Any one who would cite data from a source and then allege that same source lies, just something very puzzling about that.
like I care. Ask the CDC about its PUZZLING activities. Why when autism was 1 in 10,000 in the 1980's and is now 1 in 50 or worse they still say connection to vaccines are a coincidence and they harp on a genetic component shown to be in actuality .01% of cases. Ask them about siting environment but not including injectables and eyewittness accounts from parents. Ask they why they ignore the FACT a genetic epidemic is impossible. Ask them why this is happening all over the world and all over the USA. There is ONLY one common denominator, vaccines. There is no other possiblity no matter how much they lie. Why they were honest about the 1 in 50? Ask them that too.
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#39 Nov 23, 2013
When the Winnipeg dummy doesn't have any REAL figures, he invents them. There were far more cases of ASDs in the 1980s than 1 in 10,000. The survey showing 1 in 50 came from parent responses, many of whom said that their kids did have autism, but didn't any more, which means that they didn't have autism in the first place.

If vaccines caused autism, then the rate of ASDs among vaccinated kids would be far higher than among unvaccinated kids. Studies show that there is no difference in the rates, so vaccines cannot be the cause. Unfortunately, the Winnipeg dummy doesn't live in the REAL world.

Since: Jan 07

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#40 Nov 23, 2013
That's right, if vaccines were the cause, the autism rates would be far higher. Anti vaxxers get real jittery when studies like this come out, because it points away from their conspiracy theories.

Anti vaxxers use and abuse the CDC, claiming the CDC lies, and doesn't listen to parental accounts yet of the CDC study of the current autism rates, it was parental accounts and the parents said more than half within the study had mild autism. Mild.

The only ones who ever claim epidemic is anti vaxxers, no one else. The rates also are not the same in every country; not every country uses the same criteria for a diagnosis, nor are the vaccines the same. Claiming vaccines is the only common denominator is just that, a lame claim without any speck of evidence to back it up. We also know in the USA, doctors hand out autism diagnosis like it was candy, and proof of that is Dr. Sears giving McCarthy's son an autism diagnosis and it only took a 20 minute office visit, no tests were performed. Then not too long after that, McCarthy claims her son no longer had autism.

Keep spamming the autism rates, clearly the are seriously flawed and not too accurate.
More invention

Winnipeg, Canada

#41 Nov 23, 2013
ric99 wrote:
When the Winnipeg dummy doesn't have any REAL figures, he invents them. There were far more cases of ASDs in the 1980s than 1 in 10,000. The survey showing 1 in 50 came from parent responses, many of whom said that their kids did have autism, but didn't any more, which means that they didn't have autism in the first place.
If vaccines caused autism, then the rate of ASDs among vaccinated kids would be far higher than among unvaccinated kids. Studies show that there is no difference in the rates, so vaccines cannot be the cause. Unfortunately, the Winnipeg dummy doesn't live in the REAL world.
Talk about invention. The CDC said 1 in 50 not me. Back up your nonsense with something, anything!! Blah Blah is not gold standard peer reviewed so shaddap teabag.
WARNING FDA APPROVED

Winnipeg, Canada

#43 Nov 23, 2013
This type f eneis aually large, no lrge becuse its an autism gene. This is just more misinfo for public consumption.
WARNING FDA APPROVED

Winnipeg, Canada

#44 Nov 23, 2013
WARNING FDA APPROVED wrote:
This type of gene is usually large, not large because its an autism gene. This is just more misinfo for public consumption.
Read this http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/01/4214...
ric99

Grimsby, UK

#45 Nov 24, 2013
As usual, the Winnipeg dummy clearly didn't read the CDC report thoroughly. He only read the 1 in 50 bit. If he had read it thoroughly, he would have realised that the 1 in 50 rate was based on parental reports, and NOT on professional assessments, and that many of these parents claimed that their kid's autism had since gone away, indicating that their kids never had autism in the first place.

The Winnipeg dummy is also so stupid that he still believes that encephalitis is the same thing as autism, despite the fact that encephalitis results in brain damage, detectable by brain scans, whereas there is no brain damage detectable in cases of autism. Therefore compensation given in the very rare cases of vaccines causing encephalitis does NOT indicate the presence of autism.

Since: Jan 07

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#46 Nov 24, 2013
As usual, he spams the same things which has already been debunked.
The Mojabi case was not awarded due to autism, no court ever has awarded due to autism, ever. Never. The Family went almost 2 months seeking very little medical care for their child while traveling to other countries and it wasn't until they returned from Iran (2 months after the vaccine) that they took the child to a US doctor. The child could had contracted anything while in other countries. The rash appeared 2 months after the vaccine. Lucky for the parents, the US courts deemed the MMR vaccine causes encephalitis, NOT autism. That's what the child was awarded for, encephalitis.

Post the link all you want, doing research proves which is true. Anti vaxxer site such as the link doesn't make wishful thinking come true. Encephalitis is not medically the same thing however, if a few anti vaxxer doctors are diagnosing encephalitis as autism, that nicely demonstrates how the USA autism rates are severely flawed and no point in arguing the 1:50 rates. The new DSM should fix that.
ric99 lies again

Winnipeg, Canada

#48 Nov 24, 2013
ric99 wrote:
As usual, the Winnipeg dummy clearly didn't read the CDC report thoroughly. He only read the 1 in 50 bit. If he had read it thoroughly, he would have realised that the 1 in 50 rate was based on parental reports, and NOT on professional assessments, and that many of these parents claimed that their kid's autism had since gone away, indicating that their kids never had autism in the first place.
The Winnipeg dummy is also so stupid that he still believes that encephalitis is the same thing as autism, despite the fact that encephalitis results in brain damage, detectable by brain scans, whereas there is no brain damage detectable in cases of autism. Therefore compensation given in the very rare cases of vaccines causing encephalitis does NOT indicate the presence of autism.
So where's this report then? Post it. Blah blah is not proof its trash.

Since: Jan 07

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#49 Nov 24, 2013
The difference between anti vaxxers and rational people is anti vaxxers give links which provides no references (although the references are numbered within the article, just no where to be found) it's just an article without evidence of their claims.

Rational people go and read the actual court documents. "MMR Vaccine; Vaccine Table Injury Claim of Encephalopathy". No where does it state autism.

No case any where has been awarded for vaccines causing autism. That includes the Mojabi case.

That's why anti vaxxers use articles that has no evidence, not a link to the actual court case, because they're the ones who lie and deny the true facts which any one can easily obtain online at
http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/vaccine-program...
ric99

Grimsby, UK

#50 Nov 24, 2013
The Winnipeg dummy really is a joke. First he states that it was the CDC that reported the 1 in 50 rate of autism, and now he's asking me where the report is. If he doesn't know where the CDC report is, where did he get the 1 in 50 figure from? He probably got it from one of his favorite conspiracy theory/quackery websites, and never even read the actual CDC report.
BUH WAH HA HA

Winnipeg, Canada

#51 Nov 24, 2013
friend wrote:
The difference between anti vaxxers and rational people is anti vaxxers give links which provides no references (although the references are numbered within the article, just no where to be found) it's just an article without evidence of their claims.
Rational people go and read the actual court documents. "MMR Vaccine; Vaccine Table Injury Claim of Encephalopathy". No where does it state autism.
No case any where has been awarded for vaccines causing autism. That includes the Mojabi case.
That's why anti vaxxers use articles that has no evidence, not a link to the actual court case, because they're the ones who lie and deny the true facts which any one can easily obtain online at
http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/vaccine-program...
More blah blah. Not proof of anything but twisted logic.
BUH WAH HA HA

Winnipeg, Canada

#52 Nov 24, 2013
ric99 wrote:
The Winnipeg dummy really is a joke. First he states that it was the CDC that reported the 1 in 50 rate of autism, and now he's asking me where the report is. If he doesn't know where the CDC report is, where did he get the 1 in 50 figure from? He probably got it from one of his favorite conspiracy theory/quackery websites, and never even read the actual CDC report.
is the UK imbecile central? Too much tea and crumpets?. Teabag makes a bunch of statements (blah blah moments), doesn't supply a morsel of evidence to support the verbal sludge then says I'm wrong. Answer this boy, why did the CDC do this information gathering? Nothing to do that day? It must have had a purpose and why report it? Again, no purpose? Hardly. So lets hear it. And back up your verbal butt fudge
ric99

Grimsby, UK

#53 Nov 24, 2013
The Winnipeg dummy was the first to comment on the CDC report here (with his usual drivel), yet he now wants me to provide a link to it. If he had read it properly, he would know that it was based on parent reports and not on professional diagnosis. It seems that his dementia is getting worse. He will be blaming that on vaccines next.

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