japan rapid weight loss
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#578 Jun 23, 2010
Leila wrote:
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I have to really question who you are and what your agenda is that you seem to be so ferociously against me and the information I am sharing.
And yes, the fact is that Japan Sousinon had NEVER sold internationally outside of China. Period. I had to meet with the owner of the company, talk for hours and convince him to let me be an international distributor. He has had a very hard time with the counterfeiters selling their copies. They have a built in distribution program and you have to be APPROVED as a distributor with certain guidelines. It is sold all over China in Brick and Mortor Storefronts and websites, but the copy pill makers knocked it off, manufactured it for cheap in their pills mills and then flooded the U.S. market.
The REASON that I am the only one selling them here is because they are not CHEAP! Other people are more than happy to both boy and distribute the counterfeits is because its WAY CHEAPER to do so. Japan Sousinon has strict minimums and monthly stock buying requirements, and they are not cheap, so its MUCH more expensive for me to distribute the authentic products. If I didn't care about the ingredients or authenticity, then I would save myself a TON of money and sell the fakes.
People are smart enough to do their research and dissmeninate the information. I had said repeatedly I am not in competition with anyone else and would not actively try to sully someone else's reputation. But I also will not stand idly by while people continue to spin the facts.
And FYI, there are literally 100's of websites online that have copied every single thing I have on my webstore. I've sent out cease and desist letters, had lawyers contact them, begged and pleaded for them to remove my text and images. But when one does, another pops up. This isn't an EASY thing to do when there are so many people completely devoid of any moral code of conduct or interest in decency and honesty.
But I continue because I have grown some of the most loyal, kind, wonderful buyers in the world and want to continue to be a small light of honesty and reliability in a sea of chaos.
That will be my last reply publicly as this really is not to proper forum for a one on one discussion. You are more than welcome to contact me directly to discuss this further.
Take care.
Sorry If you think I am something other than a girl trying to lose 20 pounds this month. It is just that I am confused about the pills. I have used the pills from ricangrada from ebay and the trial pack worked great, that was about a year ago. I just want to verify how to get the real deal. I was not even aware of all the fakes until I ordered from another seller on ebay and they were not the same. The box was different and the pills were larger. So I started reading this. I just want a safe product that is real. I just do not understand why the company would allow only you to distribute the pills. I see ricandgrada had hundreds of people who love his products. I guess I am just not so sure how you know that his products are fake as you claim they are. I was just trying to decide if i was going to purchase from you. I did buy the tea from you and was thinking about pills. I am just confused about the whole thing.Sorry If you feel I am questioning you, I question others the same.
JDB

Dundas, Canada

#579 Jun 23, 2010
" I just want to verify how to get the real deal. I was not even aware of all the fakes until I ordered from another seller on ebay and they were not the same. The box was different and the pills were larger. So I started reading this. I just want a safe product that is real. I just do not understand why the company would allow only you to distribute the pills. I see ricandgrada had hundreds of people who love his products. I guess I am just not so sure how you know that his products are fake as you claim they are."

This was my situation exactly! I've had this exact conversation with Leila. I previously purchased pills from a random ebay seller, and decided not to take them once I read this thread several months ago. I then ordered from ricangrata and the packaging was completely different. I haven't taken them consistently yet, as I've been on other medications and I didn't want to take a chance. I can say however, that the couple of times I did take them, I felt no side effects other than dry mouth.(I did have the chills all day, but I'm blaming that on being ill)

I'm going to start taking them consistently starting tomorrow and I will update next week.
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#580 Jun 24, 2010
So I am waiting on my pills form ricangrata and I also broke down and ordered a set with the tea from Leila. I plan to put them both to the test. I will let you guys know how it goes.
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#582 Jun 26, 2010
Lilypond wrote:
Floridagirl, i don't know if this matters or not but my sistar did order from that same ebay seller and though she did lose weight at first she had a horrible stomach pain after 1 week and then she said she got horribly foggy in the brain and her arm was always falling asleep. It wasn't until she discontinued the pills that she found out they were cause. I say this because she also left grata positive feedback but that was when she first received her pills. I would venture that many of the feedback remarks are left in a similar manner, and that were they to follow up later , the remarks might be quite different. she felt she had been poisoned!
I do wonder how you will do your comparisons of the different sellers pills? will you use one for one month and another for a second? if you were to take them shortly after one another how would you know which effects are from which. I'm surely interested to know how it goes, but also want to make sure you can even be sure which does (or doesnt) do what.
I can say that I ordered from another seller (not grata) on Ebay and the pills were worthless vs leila whose pills have given me no issues and more weightloss than expected. My sister was very wary to try the pills again after her experience, but now is also using the pills from leila and having none of the previous problems. looking forward to hearing your review.
I was planning to take one sellers pills for 2-3 weeks and then give it a 10 day rest and try the others. Just so you know I had a very similar problem like you sister about 3 years ago. I went on a very strict diet for 2 weeks and about 12 days in I ended up at the ER , I thought there was really something wrong. I was having a stomach pain worst than labor and my left arm was numb. I found out that it was just very bad gas and acid in my system from the sudden change in diet, and I was not taking anything at the time. My doctor told me that eating so much less food suddenly and adding a bunch of veggies all at one time creates serious gas and bloating. So just something to think of. also on grata's feedback many people have posted that this is my 3rd, 4th and 5th order, so I guess it works for someone. I am just disgusted with being stuck at the same weight for so long , and I work out 4 times a week at least. But I did order from another seller on ebay, should have known they were so cheap, I would not even put them in my mouth, they look like a cheap fake coach bag, that's how fake they are.
Mii

Oklahoma City, OK

#583 Jun 28, 2010
i've read all the controversial arguments about these pills.
I did order them from ricandgrata, i posted it on page 4 if you noticed, i was on his side when i first started taking the pills.
I did order from another ebay seller before, you were right they look obviously fake! different from ricandgrata. Ricandgrata's have more of a high quality packaging. But it doesn't mean it is real...
I was afraid before buying from ricandgrata because i bought the poor quality packaging fake pills before. I placed an order on the trial pack, and I thought they worked perfectly fine. I took them for only 5 days, I didn't feel like eating, or any side effects.
So I decided to order 4 boxes of the blue pills from ricandgrata. As you can see, I was positive about these pills (on page 4).
I've been taking these pills for about a week or longer. I wouldn't like this , but I have to be honest that they DO have side affects!
I feel very dizzy.. My tongue feels numb, I had fever just like leila described. And i've only been taking 1 pill a day. The feeling isn't nice at all, they're much more uncomfortable than they sound.
To be honest with you, I think ricandgrata's pills are fake, somehow I realized that after I received his pills and read leila's posts. But so many people claim that ricandgrata's do work (I did leave him a positive feedback too), and I just want to lose some weight so I thought I would take whatever that works. After all these side affects, I will not risk my health anymore. I have no idea what is in these pills.
They are just a better version of the fake pills.
I wish I read and saw leila's comparison of the real and fake pills before I purchased them... I've wasted money on both 2 kinds of the fake pills!
Now that I know it takes Leila effort to stand up and speak for the truth...
But right now i am just so confused about these pills . How many fake versions can there be ? I guess I'm giving myself a break lol........ not gonna think about japan sousinon anymore.. at least not until i'm sure what i'm buying.
Mii

Oklahoma City, OK

#584 Jun 28, 2010
and by the way... i stopped losing weight for 2 days.. all i feel is the side affects. I'm sure my body is trying to resist these pills.
why am I doing this to myself lol...
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#586 Jun 30, 2010
Leila wrote:
Woo,its been a while since I've been over here and it seems I need to clear some things up!
Floridagirl, no idea where you got your information but it's completely 100% incorrect. The website is from Kukosai-sst.com which is the ORIGINAL official manufacturer (and yes, they are located in China, Japan Sousinon is a CHINESE product manufactured by a CHINESE company and does not come from Japan. This was simply a marketing ploy) They use specific security tag stickers with unique serial codes on ALL of their products and do this because 2 years ago the FLOOD of copies hit the market and they had to ensure that they could provide their buyers with a way to make sure they were buying from the Official Manufacturer. The link for verifying these comes from THEIR website, which is verified through the company that issues the seals, as are ALL security verifications in China. They all go through the company that issues the unique serial. Period. If your box doesn't have the security sticker with the serial code for authentication, then it simply does not come from the Official manufacturer. It's that simple.
It's the equivalent of the same hologram serial that comes on every authentic Chanel bag, if you purchase a bag that doesn't have it, or has one that is replicated and a copy used over and over, then it's not made by Chanel, and is in fact a copy.
So again, please do not confuse people with misinformation!
so I got me bottle from leila today, I comaired to the pills I think are fake from ebay seller chaipengfei88892009. The fake box was foggy print, the insert was thick glossy paper, the pills and the bottle were bigger and the silver seal on the fromt was totally removable, unlike the real ones. I am sure that Leila sells the real pills, however she is very misleading. In this post above she is telling me that the pills are not from Japan. NOw I just got a box of blue pills from her and the insert (in her box) it states "address of factory 2-8-1, shentianhequanding, Qiandaitian district, Tokyo, Japan". Personally I think she is saying that the pills are from China because Ricangrada's are from Japan and he post that in his listings. So really they are both made in Japan. I will be starting the one box tomorrow, will report back. anyone who baught from her check you box insert you will see they are made in Japan.

Since: Aug 09

Pinetops, NC

#587 Jun 30, 2010
You guys should try Zumba , or an activity so you can get healthier while you lose weight , instead of damaging your organs to get slimmer .
tiffanyC

Buffalo, NY

#590 Jul 1, 2010
i just bought the pills yesterday & should receive by saturday or monday :) cant wait to start taking them =] wish me luck everyone
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#591 Jul 2, 2010
tiffanyC wrote:
i just bought the pills yesterday & should receive by saturday or monday :) cant wait to start taking them =] wish me luck everyone
Where did you buy from?
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#592 Jul 2, 2010
So I got the pills from Leila and she sent a free trial pack with them , so I started with those. 2 days now, no side effects and not very hungry at all. I will start the blue box in a few days and let you guys know. Still waiting on ricangrada's to arrive...
tiffanyC

Buffalo, NY

#593 Jul 4, 2010
Floridagirl wrote:
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Where did you buy from?
i bought them from leila of course :) & im kinda mad that the mail isnt running monday because thats when i was suppose to receive them
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#594 Jul 6, 2010
ok so I started the blue pills yesterday, have not made it to the gym to weigh yet, however I am still not hungry much, dry mouth is kicking in. I just got the pills from ricangrada and they do look different, they are a different shade of blue, the bottle is bigger, however the insert is the same with the same factory address. How could the same factory make different pills? maybe different lots of pills may vary in color. the bottles are very different and the label from ricangrada bottle has some bubbles in it like it was stuck on by hand. so what do you guys think?
tiffanyC

Buffalo, NY

#595 Jul 6, 2010
i started the blue pills today

starting weight 193.4 pounds

i will update everyone on my weightloss :]
Leila

Japan

#596 Jul 6, 2010
Floridagirl wrote:
ok so I started the blue pills yesterday, have not made it to the gym to weigh yet, however I am still not hungry much, dry mouth is kicking in. I just got the pills from ricangrada and they do look different, they are a different shade of blue, the bottle is bigger, however the insert is the same with the same factory address. How could the same factory make different pills? maybe different lots of pills may vary in color. the bottles are very different and the label from ricangrada bottle has some bubbles in it like it was stuck on by hand. so what do you guys think?
Or, maybe as I tried to explain previously, the same factory does NOT make different kinds!! The REAL manufacturer makes only one standard kind, all the packaging and pills are the same, the only variance is in color.

I really wish there was a way for you to call the company yourself to verify everything I've explained so that you could stop feeling confused as I'm sure its very frustrating for you. It's even more frustrating when there are numerous people feeding you B.S. and I am trying to help you understand the truth and for some reason you don't want to believe me:(

P.S. There is no Japan Sousinon being manufactured in Japan. I repeat. The address is for show, and the copy pill makers just replicate the leaflet with the same information. As I stated before, this is because "Made in Japan" or "Japan Sousinon" sounds much more high end then "made in China" for obvious reasons. Ironic that I sell the real pills, but tell the truth about where they come from, and the copy/fake pill sellers perpetuate the lie!

I happen to be in Tokyo right now btw:) And it's sweltering hot!

Tiffy, good luck with everything and remember to drink ALOT of water. I tell everyone they should have a bottle of water in their hands at allllllll times and be drinking 3x as much as they think they should:)
tiffanyC

Buffalo, NY

#597 Jul 6, 2010
Leila wrote:
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Or, maybe as I tried to explain previously, the same factory does NOT make different kinds!! The REAL manufacturer makes only one standard kind, all the packaging and pills are the same, the only variance is in color.
I really wish there was a way for you to call the company yourself to verify everything I've explained so that you could stop feeling confused as I'm sure its very frustrating for you. It's even more frustrating when there are numerous people feeding you B.S. and I am trying to help you understand the truth and for some reason you don't want to believe me:(
P.S. There is no Japan Sousinon being manufactured in Japan. I repeat. The address is for show, and the copy pill makers just replicate the leaflet with the same information. As I stated before, this is because "Made in Japan" or "Japan Sousinon" sounds much more high end then "made in China" for obvious reasons. Ironic that I sell the real pills, but tell the truth about where they come from, and the copy/fake pill sellers perpetuate the lie!
I happen to be in Tokyo right now btw:) And it's sweltering hot!
Tiffy, good luck with everything and remember to drink ALOT of water. I tell everyone they should have a bottle of water in their hands at allllllll times and be drinking 3x as much as they think they should:)
thanks so much leila, i havent drunk that much water today but usually i drink about 2-3 bottles a day , but tomaro for sure i will double up on my dosage of water :) wish me luck everyone <3
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#598 Jul 8, 2010
Leila wrote:
<quoted text>
Or, maybe as I tried to explain previously, the same factory does NOT make different kinds!! The REAL manufacturer makes only one standard kind, all the packaging and pills are the same, the only variance is in color.
I really wish there was a way for you to call the company yourself to verify everything I've explained so that you could stop feeling confused as I'm sure its very frustrating for you. It's even more frustrating when there are numerous people feeding you B.S. and I am trying to help you understand the truth and for some reason you don't want to believe me:(
P.S. There is no Japan Sousinon being manufactured in Japan. I repeat. The address is for show, and the copy pill makers just replicate the leaflet with the same information. As I stated before, this is because "Made in Japan" or "Japan Sousinon" sounds much more high end then "made in China" for obvious reasons. Ironic that I sell the real pills, but tell the truth about where they come from, and the copy/fake pill sellers perpetuate the lie!
I happen to be in Tokyo right now btw:) And it's sweltering hot!
Tiffy, good luck with everything and remember to drink ALOT of water. I tell everyone they should have a bottle of water in their hands at allllllll times and be drinking 3x as much as they think they should:)
It does not just say made in Japan, it gives a specific address to the factory in Japan. you mean they just lie to consumers and give a fake address to make money? Is this not aginst some sort of law?
Floridagirl

Lexington, KY

#599 Jul 8, 2010
Just a thought, I am not sure I should comtinue to take this product, I mean If they lie about the address to make money, why not lie about the content of the pills? Are they harmful? I know there is another pill from China that was selling on ebay, and was found not to have the content listed and has now been banned from Ebay. Google super slim pills banned from ebay.
KITTIE

United States

#600 Jul 8, 2010
HOW CAN I NOW IF THE YELLOW PILLS ARE REAL I ALWAYS GET THEM FROM THE SAME GIRL BUT THIS TIME THE BOTTLE LOOKS DIFRENT THE BOTTLE HAS 2 LINES OF WORDS AND OTHER TIMES IT ONLY HAS 1 FOR HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO TAKE THEM DO I HAVE TO STOP AND THEN STAR AGAIN OR WHAT

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

South Bend, IN

#602 Jul 8, 2010
KITTIE wrote:
HOW CAN I NOW IF THE YELLOW PILLS ARE REAL I ALWAYS GET THEM FROM THE SAME GIRL BUT THIS TIME THE BOTTLE LOOKS DIFRENT THE BOTTLE HAS 2 LINES OF WORDS AND OTHER TIMES IT ONLY HAS 1 FOR HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO TAKE THEM DO I HAVE TO STOP AND THEN STAR AGAIN OR WHAT
Take them.

If you get deathly ill, they are real. If you die, they are fake.

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