Letters: Vaccine risk minimal

May 7, 2013 Full story: Deseret News 21

It is not only the CDC but many non-government scientific and medical bodies that state that there is no link between vaccines and autism, including the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, US National Academy of Sciences and probably your pediatrician .

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Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#1 May 7, 2013
What a crock. All those mention and vaccine supporters and have their reputations to protect. They have NO credibility saying in their opinion there is no connection. They are all PHARMA flunkies.
Vaccine Side effects

Winnipeg, Canada

#3 May 7, 2013
ric99

Spilsby, UK

#4 May 8, 2013
Vaccine Side effects wrote:
These links merely demonstrate Winnipeg dummy's stupidity.

The first link gives no conclusions. You have to buy the book to get those.

The second link is a real scientific study (surprise, surprise), but apparently the Winnipeg dummy either hasn't read it, or more likely he is too stupid to understand what it is saying, e.g.:-
"These findings serve as important reassurance concerning the safety of the pertussis vaccine, at least with respect to childhood encephalopathy."

The third link is a repeat of one of Winnipeg dummy's favourite conspiracy theory quackery sites.

Since: Jan 07

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#5 May 8, 2013
The first link which is a book costs $96.75 dollars! And it's outdated, the book was printed in 1991. He must had missed the part about 50 percent of cases may have normal EEGs by age 8 years.

The second link is even better. 14 patients and no controls. Winnipeg must had also miss within the conclusion on that one "Cases of alleged vaccine encephalopathy could in fact be a genetically determined epileptic encephalopathy that arose de novo."

Winnipeg must clearly not understand scientific studies or how to interpret them.'Genetically determined' is a pretty large important word to miss. It's also very difficult to miss this as well
"The report by Berkovic et al. does not address this association; however, it provides proof of principle that these disorders of early childhood, which many are convinced are caused by vaccinations, may have an entirely different and unrelated cause."
and

"Solid, high-quality evidence, such as that presented by Berkovic and colleagues, in addition to the fundamental scientific contribution they represent, may have an important, positive public health impact by allaying fears, at the very least, about the role of pertussis vaccine in causing encephalopathy."

Thanks Winnipeg, you actually provided a study which provided evidence that vaccines are not the cause! I'll bookmark it!
ric99

Spilsby, UK

#6 May 8, 2013
friend wrote:
Thanks Winnipeg, you actually provided a study which provided evidence that vaccines are not the cause! I'll bookmark it!
You are right. The Winnipeg dummy is so amazingly stupid that he only reads headers, such as the one in his second link:-
"Vaccines, Encephalopathies, and Mutations"
He then automatically assumes that the study shows that vaccines cause Encephalopathies and Mutations without even reading it. I don't think he is capable of even reading, let alone understanding a real scientific study.

Since: Jan 07

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#7 May 8, 2013
Well, it's not all Winnipeg's fault. His anti vaxxer sites list all these links, and others just assume and rely on them for it's content. It does show Winnipeg doesn't read the links he offers; this isn't the first time his links surely points away from vaccines, causing a huge embarrassment for him and his fellow Wakefield followers.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#8 May 8, 2013
More trash talk but nothing else from richard B and friend of PHARMA. Typical of a couple of a-holes.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#9 May 8, 2013
ric99 wrote:
<quoted text>
These links merely demonstrate Winnipeg dummy's stupidity.
The first link gives no conclusions. You have to buy the book to get those.
The second link is a real scientific study (surprise, surprise), but apparently the Winnipeg dummy either hasn't read it, or more likely he is too stupid to understand what it is saying, e.g.:-
"These findings serve as important reassurance concerning the safety of the pertussis vaccine, at least with respect to childhood encephalopathy."
The third link is a repeat of one of Winnipeg dummy's favourite conspiracy theory quackery sites.
Yeah DUH ricard B Two court cases in the USA against MERCK for fraud concerning their useless MMR vaccine. A real anti-vac scenario. So the USA court case is about anti-vaxxers and not about faulty, fraudulent product? What a UK imbecile.

Since: Jan 07

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#10 May 8, 2013
FYI: Those 2 court cases Winnipeg is referencing comes from the anti vaxxer site vactruth. Consider the source.

Since: Jan 07

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#11 May 8, 2013
Oh, and busted again
ric99

Spilsby, UK

#12 May 8, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
More trash talk but nothing else from richard B and friend of PHARMA. Typical of a couple of a-holes.
Every time the Winnipeg dummy gets caught out, he predictably lashes out with more insults. If he actually read his own links before posting them, he wouldn't get caught out in the first place.

Since: Jan 07

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#14 May 8, 2013
Busted again, pretending to be another person.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#15 May 8, 2013
ric99

Lincoln, UK

#16 May 8, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
Link 1:“Oops! This link appears to be broken.”

Link 2: Conspiracy theory quackery site.

Link 3: Conspiracy theory quackery site.

Link 4: Conspiracy theory quackery site.

The Winnipeg dummy fails yet again.
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#17 May 8, 2013
friend wrote:
FYI: Those 2 court cases Winnipeg is referencing comes from the anti vaxxer site vactruth. Consider the source.
What a dolt. Court cases have nothing to do with vactruth. Its the government suing after finding faulty, fraudulent MMR vaccines being sold. It shows how vaccine makers work. Put slop in a vial and sell it as a vaccine $$$$$$$$$$
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#18 May 8, 2013
ric99 wrote:
<quoted text>
Link 1:“Oops! This link appears to be broken.”
Link 2: Conspiracy theory quackery site.
Link 3: Conspiracy theory quackery site.
Link 4: Conspiracy theory quackery site.
The Winnipeg dummy fails yet again.
These sites are for the open minded not 13 year old UK children
Vaccines Cause Autism

Winnipeg, Canada

#19 May 8, 2013
friend wrote:
Busted again, pretending to be another person.
Busted again posting nonsense.
ric99

Louth, UK

#20 May 9, 2013
Vaccines Cause Autism wrote:
<quoted text> These sites are for the open minded not 13 year old UK children
The Winnipeg dummy should learn to use the right words.
These sites are for the feeble minded, not the open minded.

Since: Jan 07

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#21 May 9, 2013
No, the 'government' is not suing after finding faulty, fraudulent MMR vaccines being sold. That's where considering the source matters. And so what? Past employee's file law suits all the time. Doesn't mean their claims are accurate or true, and they'd still have to prove their claims. The bummer for these 2 law suits is the current outbreaks of measles within the unvaccinated. Bet when they filed those law suits they weren't expected that! The case wont be able to prove their claims.

Since: Jan 07

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#24 May 9, 2013
The Governent isn't the one suing in this case. Anyone can do a web search to see who actually filed the 2 law suits. And those outbreaks have been linked to it cause, and it wasn't from a vacinated person. Nice try. Will never hold up in court.

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