Dr. Bill Elliott: Unintended conseque...

Dr. Bill Elliott: Unintended consequences can create medical monsters

There are 41 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Aug 22, 2010, titled Dr. Bill Elliott: Unintended consequences can create medical monsters. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

The law of unintended consequences states that interventions in a complex system may create unanticipated outcomes.

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tbt

San Francisco, CA

#1 Aug 23, 2010
Okay.....but what is the law of unintended consequences for Viagra ? This article is like a movie that just ends and you say "Was that the end ?"
DZinMarin

San Rafael, CA

#2 Aug 23, 2010
Nice little article. Informative and well written. On a related note...My question is;what are the monster medical unintended consequences of Obamacare? We might see in Nov. and beyond.
Tom

Dallas, TX

#3 Aug 23, 2010
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Uncle Sam Weeps

United States

#4 Aug 23, 2010
"Introduced in the late 1950s as a sedative drug, thalidomide was given to pregnant women to help with nausea and other symptoms of early pregnancy. By 1961, it was clear that thalidomide was associated with severe birth defects resulting in malformed limbs. The drug was withdrawn from the market soon after. It is estimated that more than 10,000 children in 46 countries were born"

So, since the us gov made cannabis illlegal in 1935..and it is efffective for this condition..I understand..the effectively CREATED the market for this awful drug.
The unintended consequence here was that all that suffering happened...to those kids and mothers.
But some say that the law was WRITTEN to create such markets....for medicine, paper, fuel, wood cotton...all by making cannabis illegal.
So the Gov has created an ARTIFICIAL SHORTAGE of many useful things by INTERVENING in the free market.
The pure , natural and logical consequence of this shortage is the development of alternative medicines...hence the bad drug.

So...gov caused the thalidomide debacle...
Uncle Sam Dances

United States

#5 Aug 23, 2010
but now we got Obama, Pelosi, Boxer.
And ARNOLD! Smart people who "get it" about personal freedoms..who want the most people "in the house"
So guess what?
We have pushed the cannabis issue...the medical RIGHTS issue...we will NOT rely on profit generating POISONS doled out by flunkie county MDs!!!
So many doped up people get SICK on these meds.
I tell you...nowadays...I see a doctor..and I see a "profit generator" for Glaxo..I think they COMPETE with each other to hand out scripts...crooked as can be.
Medical cannabis could save SO MUCH MONEY AND STOP SO MUCH HARM...if allowed to RETURN to our medicine cabinets....or cookie jars, as it were.

And for those who say, "they just wanna get stoned"...any knowledgeable md will tell you that the PSYCHOACTIVE function of thc is MINIMAL after one establishes REGULAR use...the pain and nausea relief function continues.
So a regular medpot user is NOT STONED!!!!
Put that in your pipe and smoke it...
John

Kansas City, MO

#6 Aug 23, 2010
The worst "medical monster" I've ever seen is Kaiser Permanente.

It's important people know that Kaiser illegally cancels people's coverage all the time after they get sick. It's also important that Kaiser has been caught purposefully cheating people on their deductibles and co-payments.

Kaiser also silences anyone who works there who has the audacity to speak up on behalf of the people who were duped into buying Kaiser's lousy health insurance coverage.

Kaiser Permanente is the worst healthcare organization I can think of. Period.
DZinMarin

San Rafael, CA

#7 Aug 24, 2010
Kaiser is indeed pretty bad, for older folks. If you are young and relatively healthy, it's great. Broken arms, no problem. Eye care, skin stuff, etc. good. But for life threatening long term illnesses, you need to avoid that place like the plaque. Trust me, the second you become medicare eligible, get the hec out of Kaiser. It saved a family member's life, and some personal friends also.
John wrote:
The worst "medical monster" I've ever seen is Kaiser Permanente.
It's important people know that Kaiser illegally cancels people's coverage all the time after they get sick. It's also important that Kaiser has been caught purposefully cheating people on their deductibles and co-payments.
Kaiser also silences anyone who works there who has the audacity to speak up on behalf of the people who were duped into buying Kaiser's lousy health insurance coverage.
Kaiser Permanente is the worst healthcare organization I can think of. Period.
well

United States

#8 Aug 27, 2010
John wrote:
The worst "medical monster" I've ever seen is Kaiser Permanente.
It's important people know that Kaiser illegally cancels people's coverage all the time after they get sick. It's also important that Kaiser has been caught purposefully cheating people on their deductibles and co-payments.
Kaiser also silences anyone who works there who has the audacity to speak up on behalf of the people who were duped into buying Kaiser's lousy health insurance coverage.
Kaiser Permanente is the worst healthcare organization I can think of. Period.
I believe that the taxpayers are the victims of Kaisers policies.
They get dumped onto the MediCal system.
I think they cover up real injuries...cancel you out..and then you wind up milking the state...criminal Kaiser.
But the original Idea of the Managed care system was a profit driver..right?
Manged care is a LIE...and Obama is its touter.
That makes him a drag...in my book.
I just don't think he is that smart. Where are his smarts at?
Show me the money??
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Netherlands

#10 Sep 30, 2010
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#30 Apr 9, 2013
i wrote:
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I'm thinking of doing the same thing with my medication. The meds is expensive, but there is a generic version available overseas.
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Vaccines Cause ADHD

Winnipeg, Canada

#31 Apr 9, 2013
unintended consequence means protect PHARMA and invent laws just for this one industry. MERCK'S VIOXX killed estimates of 50,000 to 250,000 and injured 169,000. Not one employee or owner served prison time for crimes against humanity.
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#47 Aug 31, 2013
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